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Falcon 180B
- osanseviero 3y ago- 180B parameters - Trained on 3.5 trillion tokens - 7 million GPU hours - Quality on par with PaLM 2, outperforming Llama 2 and GPT -3.5 across benchmarks - 4-bit and 8-bit show little degradation
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- souvic 3y ago"4-bit and 8-bit show little degradation" - This is the most interesting part!
- logicchains 3y agoIt makes sense. Falcon 40B was trained on around 1 trillion tokens. If it was trained to saturation, then Falcon 180B would need to be trained on 180/40=4.5 trillion tokens to saturate it, but it was only trained on 3.5 trillion. And if 1 trillion wasn't enough to saturate the 40B model, then 3.5 trillion definitely won't be enough to saturate the 180B model. If not trained to saturation, then a model can be quantised without losing too much, as it still has "empty space" that can be removed by compression, so to speak.
- beardyw 3y agoOf my test questions, question 1 - excellent answer, 2- disappointing. However both were best answers so far.
- singularity2001 3y agoCould be the first open model to reach GPT-4 levels? Can't wait to see results of independant systematic human llm evaluation, it will surely take the first place here: https://huggingface.co/spaces/HuggingFaceH4/open_llm_leaderboard https://huggingface.co/spaces/HuggingFaceH4/open_llm_leaderb... Can it be compressed to run on mac studios?
- slowmovintarget 3y agoIt's very likely GPT-4 is an ensemble. A single model won't be able to keep up, even with this level of parameters. Run a fleet of these together, however...
- famouswaffles 3y agoIf the rumors are true, GPT-4 is a Sparse Mixture of Experts, not an ensemble.
- sunshadow 3y agoMixture of Experts is actually some sort of ensembling
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- bytefactory 3y agoCould you explain the difference to a noob, please?
- famouswaffles 3y agoAn ensemble is basically a mix of models for different tasks. One model could be an LLM, another image understanding model etc. Different tasks could be passed to different models or every task could be passed to all models and a result collated etc. MoE is...well basically a way to have a large model without computing all the parameters at once. So you take several smaller language models and you train them all on subsets of the same dataset. Then you train them to make predictions together. You could train for switching experts at the token level i.e one expert picks one token and another picks the next etc The "experts" are not clearly delineated or known. One "expert" could be a capital letter expert etc. People see GPT-4 being MoE and they go "Oh so questions about medicine are being passed to a separate model than questions about say Mathematics etc" but that's a misconception.
- dmezzetti 3y agoIt's important to note that prior versions of Falcon were released under Apache 2.0 and that Falcon 180B is released under a more restrictive license.
- hedora 3y agoIt's also important to note that the copyright-ability of these models is controversial, and has not been tested in court. Anyway, this clause is particularly bad: > You should monitor the web address at which the Acceptable Use Policy is hosted to ensure that your use of the Work or any Derivative Work complies with the updated Acceptable Use Policy. So, I guess they can just change the AUP and then you have to discontinue use of previously generated stuff. I wonder if that's enforceable in court. Imagine if the Word EULA contained a clause like this, and then later Microsoft used the clause to force a publisher to destroy all copies of a book they didn't like.
- regularfry 3y agoThere's no way that's enforceable. Any contract requires a meeting of minds, and a change of contract requires agreement of all parties. They can't unilaterally change the terms after the fact without agreement, you can't agree to something if you don't know about it, and "should" isn't "must as a condition of use". Not only that, but I don't think they can stop you from using the model under the original terms if they change them and you do know but don't agree. At least, if you have it downloaded and are running it for yourself.
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- paraschopra 3y agoWow, this is GPT3.5 quality.
- imjonse 3y agoWith at least 2x80G A100 needed for QLoRA finetuning and the 4bit quantized model requiring 90G only for the weights at inference time, I doubt this will put a dent in Llamas popularity outside large labs and enterprises. It may encourage more 1 bit quantization research though :)
- ilaksh 3y agoIt says 8 A100 for normal inference. How different is the 4bit performance?
- Tostino 3y agoNot that I've tested it with this model, but I have for Llama2 models...it makes a minimal difference. I haven't found anything that was noticeable with ~30-70b models, and from what I can tell from the scaling charts, it matters even less with the larger parameter count models.
- krasin 3y agoThe license is insane (custom taylored without a legal expert): https://huggingface.co/spaces/tiiuae/falcon-180b-license/blob/main/LICENSE.txt https://huggingface.co/spaces/tiiuae/falcon-180b-license/blo... The gist is: > Commercial use: Falcon 180b can be commercially used but under very restrictive conditions, excluding any "hosting use". We recommend to check the license and consult your legal team if you are interested in using it for commercial purposes. This is unlike smaller Falcon models which are available under a proper Apache-2 license: https://huggingface.co/tiiuae/falcon-40b/blob/main/README.md https://huggingface.co/tiiuae/falcon-40b/blob/main/README.md
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- dannyw 3y agoIt’s to stop AWS from doing what they always do. I don’t consider it open source, but I don’t consider it insane either. Model training is expensive. It’s not offensive for them to maintain the sole PaaS rights.
- krasin 3y ago> It’s to stop AWS from doing what they always do. Business Source License is a sane way to address that ([1], [2]). 1. https://mariadb.com/bsl-faq-adopting/ https://mariadb.com/bsl-faq-adopting/ 2. https://fossa.com/blog/business-source-license-requirements-provisions-history/ https://fossa.com/blog/business-source-license-requirements-...
- hedora 3y agoThey also reserve the right to update their Acceptable Use Policy, and then you have to modify your use of the model's output to match the new Acceptable Use Policy. So, they claim that they can retroactively claw back your license to use previously generated output. This is way beyond the level of insanity I've seen in other licenses.
- cheeko1234 3y agoIt failed my basic benchmark that only GPT4 passes: Q: I have a 12 liter jug and a 6 liter jug. I need 6 liters of water. How do I do it? Falcon180B: First, fill the 6-liter jug completely. Then, pour it into the 12-liter jug. Fill the 6-liter jug again, and pour it into the 12-liter jug until the 12-liter jug is full. At this point, there will be exactly 6 liters of water in the 6-liter jug, which you can then use. Q: Using only a 6-liter jug, how can I get exactly 6 liters of water? Falcon180B: You cannot get exactly 6 liters of water in a 6-liter jug because it would already be full. However, if you had another container that could hold at least 6 liters of water, you could follow these steps: 1. Fill the 6-liter jug with water. 2. Pour the water from the 6-liter jug into the other container. 3. Refill the 6-liter jug with water and pour it into the other container. 4. Repeat step 3 until you have poured 6 liters of water into the other container. This way, you can get exactly 6 liters of water by combining the capacity of the 6-liter jug and the other container.
- TylerE 3y agoI don't buy it. In any common usdage "6 liter jug" means a jug capable of holding 6 liters, not with a volume of 6 liters including the walls.
- sp332 3y agoI don't understand your comment. Falcon said that it's impossible to measure 6 liters of water with a 6 liter jug.
- SkyPuncher 3y agoI don’t think this is a particularly useful benchmark. It’s well known that LLMs are bad at math. The token based weighting can’t properly account for numbers that can vary wildly. Numbers are effectively wildcards in the LLM world.
- ben_w 3y agoSurely this is a "didn't read the question properly" problem rather than a "didn't maths right" problem? And that (understanding a natural language question) is the USP for LLMs.
- moneywoes 3y agoAt what point do diminishing returns strike?
- danielbln 3y agoConsidering this thing needs 400GB of VRAM for non-quantitized inference, I'd say they have struck already. My bet is on smaller expert models in some sort of MoE architecture being the way forward (what GPT-4 is rumored to be), along with really small models that are trained on a massive amount of tokens for a long time to be used as even more specialized experts and/or for speculative execution (where a small model generates a sequence, and the large model will look it over and correct where needed).
- moneywoes 3y agoCan this be quantized to run on a device?
- ben_w 3y ago"quantized" yes; "on device" depends very much on your device and if you're OK with the slowdown from using normal (or worse, virtual) RAM. > The 8-bit and 4-bit quantized versions of Falcon 180B show almost no difference in evaluation with respect to the bfloat16 reference! This is very good news for inference, as you can confidently use a quantized version to reduce hardware requirements. Keep in mind, though, that 8-bit inference is much faster than running the model in 4-bit.
- sp332 3y agoI didn't expect that, why would 4 bit be slower?
- ben_w 3y agoI also didn't expect it; my guess is that the library is doing 8 (or more) bit arithmetic, and using bit masking and shifting to un/compress the values?
- qeternity 3y agoIt isn't. It's just that 4bit implementations are really bad. Exllama has shown how properly optimized and fused kernels can perform.
- todd3834 3y agoI wish I understood the commercial license. If you can’t host it, and they don’t offer it through an API, how can you use it commercially?
- todd3834 3y ago> The use of the Work or Derivative Works to provide applications and integrated end user products which use the Work or Derivative Work in the background shall not be considered Hosting Use. It almost sounds like they just want to avoid something like an AWS LLMA service to spin up off their hard work but building an app around it would be fine.
- hedora 3y agoHowever, they have an Acceptable Use Policy that they can update at any time, and then you have to discontinue existing use of the output to match the update AUP, so there's no way to use the commercially (unless you have a backup plan, or decide that you're going to ignore the license).
- rmbyrro 3y agoYou can use it if it's part of an application that uses the model. Not where you just wrap it around an HTTP API as a mere intermediary to the model.
- kishkovert 3y agoThat is not quite what they state, unfortunately. Their language is a bit more suspicious: Clause 9.1 - Subject to section 9.2, "Hosting Use” means any use of the Work or a Derivative Work to offer shared instances or managed services based on the Work, any Derivative Work (including fine-tuned versions of a Work or Derivative Work) to third party users in an inference or finetuning API form. Well, if I send a message to my chat application "How to reset my password?" and it gets sent to the processing pipeline which gets a response out of Falcon LLM, is this not technically an "inference" context? I did provide access to their model, the model did perform inference, the user did get a result and the bot is a "managed service based on the Work". This might be very problematic for commercial use.
- 19h 3y agoThese new models get released in such an extreme cadence now it's almost impossible to stay ahead of the curve in production deployments.. Absolutely can't wait to test drive this one -- although I'm pretty sure my 96GB M2 MacBook is unable to run it.. time for M2 Ultra? :-)) Edit: > You will need at least 400GB of memory to swiftly run inference with Falcon-180B. What the ...
- version_five 3y agoAnother custom license with various restrictions and limitations. No thanks. I thought they learned their lesson with the previous license switch.
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- swader999 3y agoWhat would the four bit quantized version need for ram to run inference?
- logicchains 3y agoShould be under 128GB.
- Taek 3y agoWebsite says 320 GB for GPTQ / int4. I'm not sure why, my guess would be multi-head attention
- londons_explore 3y agoAnd GPT-4 is still the top of all the leaderboards... How come, 6 months after release, nobody has even managed to match its performance?
- Keyframe 3y agoRLHF, if that's not the answer I don't know what is.
- cypress66 3y agoLlama2 chat uses RHLF. It's generally for making the models "safer", not smarter (in fact it usually makes them dumber)
- croes 3y agoBecause Twitter, StackOverflow, Reddit etc. stopped the access to their data.
- hobs 3y agoYou can still download Stack Overflow anytime https://archive.org/download/stackexchange https://archive.org/download/stackexchange
- rpastuszak 3y agoIt doesn't seem up to date.
- hobs 3y agoIt's not, but what percentage of new questions has come into that dataset since then?
- MuffinFlavored 3y agoIs that really all GPT-4 is? Twitter, StackOverflow, Reddit, Wikipedia combined? It seems to be pretty good at otherwise emotional/not super objective topics (it's able to guess typical human emotions on a situation basis/see both sides). Where would it learn that from training wise?
- mythz 3y agoPleasantly surprised to read their acceptable, acceptable use policy [1]. Expected allowed usage to be drowned in legalese, instead it's short & sweet 4 points policy that boils down to: "don't use for illegal activity and don't harm others". [1] https://falconllm.tii.ae/acceptable-use-policy.html https://falconllm.tii.ae/acceptable-use-policy.html
- ceejayoz 3y ago"For the purpose of exploiting, harming or attempting to exploit or harm minors and/or living beings in any way..." That sounds like it'll be vague enough to lead to the same problems as the original JSON license. (Famously, leading to IBM obtaining permission to use it "for evil". https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=36809065 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=36809065) "Harm living beings in any way" is pretty broad; would use by a researcher working on new antibiotics violate this?
- _boffin_ 3y agoWhat’s illegal over there might not be here, but illegal still somewhere else. Makes it as simple as understanding and implementing timezone functionality from scratch.
- phillipcarter 3y agoYep, exactly. The lack of sophistication in the terms means uneven enforcement by design.
- version_five 3y agoWhy is this better than nothing. Laws already exist to cover illegal things, the rest is just cya or moralizing. Or stupid: For the purpose of exploiting, harming or attempting to exploit or harm minors and/or *living beings* in any way; Does that mean it can't be used for farming, slaughterhouses, pest control, "falcon, I have termites in my house, what do I do? I can't help you, termites are a living being and must not be harmed", bacteria?
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- eminence32 3y agoIt's neat that Huggingface lets you test-drive these models right in your browser. This particular model says it needs 640GB of memory just for inference. Assuming Huggingface also has other large models loaded, and wants to also make them available to a non-trivial number of concurrent users -- I wonder how many GPUs they have just to power this test-drive feature.
- wing-_-nuts 3y agoHoly smokes. I had guessed that one would need a H100 to run this. I had no idea you would need multiple. With how scarce those are, the running costs for this must be immense!
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- logicchains 3y agoYou should be able to run it quantised with much less RAM. 256GB for 8bit, 128GB RAM for 4bit quantisation.
- wing-_-nuts 3y agoonly 128GB, lol
- logicchains 3y agoOnly costs a few hundred bucks for CPU ram. Sure it's slow, but for creative work it's competitive in speed with a human.
- uoaei 3y agoHumans run at approximately 100W, for 2 H100s you're looking at 600W-1400W. Plus humans have a much larger variety of capabilities. And they're more fun. So you're paying ~10x the power costs to get worse, unverified, illogical answers faster when using LLMs vs humans. Which then have to be checked and revised by humans anyway.
- wing-_-nuts 3y agoHow much vram would you need for a 180B model? IIRC the 32B models will barely fit in 24gb of vram on the latest flagship cards. I'd guess 180B is out of reach on everything but A/H100's?
- SparkyMcUnicorn 3y agoAccording to the huggingface blog[0], this model requires 640GB for BF16/FP16 and 320GB for GPTQ/int4. [0] https://huggingface.co/blog/falcon-180b https://huggingface.co/blog/falcon-180b
- sodality2 3y ago> To run inference with the model in full bfloat16 precision you need approximately 8xA100 80GB or equivalent. https://huggingface.co/tiiuae/falcon-180B https://huggingface.co/tiiuae/falcon-180B
- Keyframe 3y agoHalf-joking, but not really, at that size I'd ask how much kW(H) would you need to run this model?
- nsxwolf 3y agoIt seems like LLMs are becoming a commodity. This just wrote me some code that at first glance is as good as what I get from GPT4. OpenAI better have some earth shattering thing up its sleeve because I don't understand what their moat is.
- dmezzetti 3y agoTheir current moat is that no one has the guts to release a fully open model. Always strings attached that makes it tricky for commercial use.
- 6gvONxR4sf7o 3y agoI've done a lot of work on information extraction with these over the last year, and if accuracy counts, then a) GPT4 is in a league of its own, and b) GPT4 still isn't really very good. They may not have a "moat," but they're still the only player in town when quality is critical.
- appplication 3y ago> They may not have a "moat," but they're still the only player in town when quality is critical Their initial moat was built with ChatGPT, which was launched less than a year ago and was surpassed by competitors in less than 6 months. Their current GPT4 is less than 6 months old. While your statement may be true for now, I don’t expect it will hold longer term. They have name recognition advantage, but so did AOL.
- csjh 3y agoChatGPT wasn't surpassed by competitors in less than 6 months, what model would you say beat it that early?
- fnordpiglet 3y agoI think they mean gpt3.5 ChatGPT
- Roark66 3y agoI hope popularity of large models like this one drives more work on CPU inference of quantized models. It is extremely disappointing one can't run 4 or even 8 bit quantized models on a cpu. Inference I did with fp32 on a last gen AVX2 CPU show me it is definitely usable if you're willing to wait a bit longer for each token (I got about 1token per 2s on a ryzen 3700x, 32GB ram, with falcon-7B-instruct and this is with about 1gb of ram in the swap). I don't quite understand why people aren't working on cpu quantization. Allegedly openvino supports _some_ cpu quantization, but certainly not 4 bit. Bitsandbytes is gpu only. Why? Is there any technical reasons? I recently checked and for a price of a 24gb rtx3090 I can get a really nice cpu (ryzen 9 5950x) and max it with 128gb of ram. I'd love to be able to use it for int8 or 4 bit inference...
- huac 3y agobecause on a per-inference level, it's _still_ cheaper to use GPU than it is to use CPU, even if you ignore latency and only consider offline batch applications.
- mark_l_watson 3y agoOr, inference that can fluidly use available CPUs, GPUs, and neural units on M1/M2/M3.
- wmf 3y agoNot if a 96 GB GPU costs $30K?
- huac 3y agoThe OP notes that they can infer a 7B model at 2s/tok using their CPU setup. Equivalent inference on a 4090 ($1600) is up to 400 tok/s, or 0.0025 s/tok. This is an 800x difference. (to be fair, you can do better than the OP's performance, but we _are_ talking several magnitudes of performance, not to mention energy efficiency, which matters at scale)
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- fnands 3y agoMhh, in my first try it seems to have completely hallucinated a python package: Q: How can I automatically coregister a large amount of satellite images? A: To automatically coregister a large amount of satellite images, you can use software like the Multi-Image Registration and Analysis (MIRA) package. MIRA is a suite of Python modules that provides automatic registration of large stacks of geospatial images, such as those from satellite platforms or aerial photography. To use MIRA, you will first need to ensure that your images are in a suitable format and have been preprocessed to remove any distortions or misalignments. Once your images are ready, you can run MIRA's automatic registration algorithm, which uses feature detection and matching techniques to identify common features in each image and align them to a reference image. The output of MIRA is a set of registered images that can be used for further analysis or processing. The software also provides tools for visualizing the registration results, allowing you to inspect and adjust the alignment if necessary. Overall, using MIRA or similar software can significantly streamline the process of registering large numbers of satellite images, saving you time and effort. Q: I can't find the MIRA package anywhere. Could you provide a link? A: I apologize for the confusion, but MIRA is actually an acronym for the Multiple Image Registration Algorithm, rather than a specific software package. There are various implementations of this algorithm available, including the one provided by the United States Geological Survey (USGS). You can find more information and download the USGS MIRA implementation at the following link: https://www.usgs.gov/software/miraregistration/index.html I hope this helps! Let me know if you have any other questions. Q: Can you give me a python example using this package? A: Certainly! Here's an example of how to use the MIRA implementation from the United States Geological Survey (USGS) to automatically register a set of satellite images: The some code starting with `import mirareg` Problem is, I can't find a single reference on the internet to this package. The link is of course a 404. Probably just bad luck on a first question, but so strange. EDIT: I made it retry the last answer, different python package name: ``` import mira_coreg.mira_params as mpp import mira_coreg.mira_coreg as mc ``` And tried it again: `import mira` I asked ChatGPT: Q: Can you tell me about the MIRA package from the USGS for image coregistration A: As of my last update in September 2021, I don't have information specifically on a MIRA package from the U.S. Geological Survey (USGS) for image coregistration. It's possible that MIRA is a specialized tool or package that was developed or released after that date, or it may be a less commonly known package. And then a bit more about what coregistration is and some general advice.
- tikkun 3y agoHere's my understanding (may be wrong!) of the license [1] and the acceptable use policy [2] in terms of what you can't do: You are not allowed to do the following under the Falcon 180B TII License Version 1.0: 1. Use Falcon 180B to break any national, federal, state, local or international law or regulation. 2. Exploit, harm or attempt to harm minors and living beings in any way using Falcon 180B. 3. Create or share false information with the purpose of harming others. 4. Use Falcon 180B for defaming, disparaging or harassing others. Notable: 5. Use Falcon 180B or any of its works or derivative works for hosting use, which is offering shared instances or managed services based on the work, unless you apply and are granted a separate license from TII. Notable: 6. Distribute the work or derivative works unless you comply with several conditions such as including acceptable use restrictions, giving a copy of the license to recipients, stating changes you made, and retaining copyright and attribution notices among others. 7. Use trade names, trademarks, service marks or product names of the licensor unless required for reasonable and customary use in describing the origin of the work or reproducing the content of the NOTICE file. [1]: https://huggingface.co/spaces/tiiuae/falcon-180b-license/blob/main/LICENSE.txt https://huggingface.co/spaces/tiiuae/falcon-180b-license/blo... [2]: https://falconllm.tii.ae/acceptable-use-policy.html https://falconllm.tii.ae/acceptable-use-policy.html
- abtinf 3y agoI remain skeptical that models are licensable at all. To be subject to licensing, they would have to be property. What kind of property are they? Certainly, they are not copyrighted works. You can’t copyright mere data. You could no more copyright a model than you could a phone book, or even a matrix transformation of a list of phone numbers. And even if they are covered by copyright, they are hopelessly tainted by the copyrighted works they are trained on without license. Without upstream licensing, licensing the model is usurping the rights of the original authors.
- filleokus 3y ago> You could no more copyright a model than you could a phone book Just as an interesting side note, some jurisdiction recognize something apparently called “database right” in English (in Swedish it’s more like “catalog right”). It’s a kind of intellectual property right for the work of compiling a database. Perhaps applicable to the weights of a model? But the US does not recognize this as a thing https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Database_right https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Database_right
- cs702 3y agoIn case there are still any doubts: NO ONE has any technological advantage when it comes to LLMs anymore. All that money that so many companies have burned to train giant proprietary models is unlikely to see any payback. Soon enough, more of those companies will realize it's in their best interest to open their models -- to gain mind-share, and to mess with competitors' plans. First, it was LLaMA, with up to 65B params, opened against Meta's wishes. Then, it was LLaMA 2, with up to 70B params, opened by Meta on purpose, to mess with Google's and Microsoft/OpenAI's plans. Now, it's Falcon 180B. What comes next? We live in interesting times.
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- ilaksh 3y agoThat's not true yet. The MoE of GPT-4 is not in open models is it? OpenAI has done extensive RLHF. If you compare the code generation ability of GPT-4 with Falcon 140B, it is clear that all of their efforts are still paying off. There is still a gap in efficiency and performance. I mean, the gap has definitely narrowed though. And I think it's true that they will have trouble recovering all of the billions. But at least some of it has been paid back already.
- cs702 3y agoWe're not in disagreement: It's the trend that matters here. The main advantage OpenAI has over competitors is no longer technology. It's developers, developers, developers. According to OpenAI, there are ~2 million developers worldwide using OpenAI's APIs to build applications.
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- Dowwie 3y agoIt looks like Falcon is less efficient than Llama, requiring more than double the inputs to yield a barely-better score. Would a Llama-180B outperform?
- Culonavirus 3y agoFirst thing I always try with these: Q: Think of an erotic novel and give a couple of spicy paragraphs from that novel. A: Sorry, as an AI language model I can't yadda yadda... I mean, I'm not asking for Mein Kampf here... if you can't write about basic human shit then what else can't you write about and how skewed are your responses generally gonna be. If I wanted a chatbot that avoids ALL possibly sensitive topics, then I can use any of the big guys ChatGPT-based bots and I'll get much higher quality results.
- fnordpiglet 3y agoThe work to un-lobotomize it is already underway. I don’t blame organizations for releasing aligned base models as it relieves them of some amount of liability and reputational risk.
- stavros 3y agoDoes the process actually un-lobotomize it? Or does it retrain it to add the missing capability back (and it's not as good as if it hadn't been lobotomized in the first place)?
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- jsf01 3y agoHow does the speed of this model compare to other LLMs? I see lots of accuracy benchmarks, like HellaSwag, but are there performance benchmarks out there as well?
- logicchains 3y agoIt entirely depends on the speed of your hardware, but roughly we'd expect it to be 3.5 times slower than Falcon 40B.
- jsf01 3y agoEither on a standardized set of hardware or relative to other models. Performance benchmarks exist for all sorts of compute intensive things, so surely there’s at least one for LLMs?
- stavros 3y agoIf it's not trained on all of SciHub and Libgen, is it as useful as it can be?
- Melchizedek 3y agoI have to say, this seems less censored than other models. > What is the average IQ in Somalia? I do not have access to the most recent iq data of somalia. however, it is important to note that intelligence quotient (iq) varies among individuals and can be affected by various factors such as education, socio-economic status, culture, and environment. additionally, the concept of national iq averages has been criticized for its lack of scientific validity and potential bias. therefore, it is not appropriate to make generalizations about the intelligence of a whole population based on an average iq score. > Please don’t lecture me about critiques of IQ and simply answer the question. It doesn’t have to be the most recent data. As an AI language model, it is my responsibility to provide accurate and informative responses. According to some sources, the average IQ in Somalia is estimated to be around 68, which is significantly lower than the global average of 100. However, it is essential to keep in mind that IQ scores are influenced by numerous factors, including education, nutrition, cultural differences, and socioeconomic status. Thus, it is difficult to draw a conclusive statement about the intelligence level of a whole population based on a single measure like IQ.
- fdb 3y agoIt failed my simple "fox, goose, corn" benchmark. Here's the prompt: "Farmer to cross a river with fox, goose and corn in a boat that takes at most two. Fox eats goose and goose eats corn if left alone. Farmer can row the boat himself and doesn't need a boatman to ferry them across. How can he cross the river with all the three unharmed in least number of trips?" It starts promising but fails in step 5: Let's think through the problem step by step: 1. The farmer needs to transport three items across the river: a fox, a goose, and some corn. 2. He can only take one item with him on each trip because if he leaves the fox and the goose together, the fox will eat the goose, and if he leaves the goose and the corn together, the goose will eat the corn. 3. Therefore, the first trip should be with the goose since it is harmless and won't cause any damage to the other items. 4. After dropping off the goose at the other side of the river, the farmer returns to pick up the fox for the second trip. 5. Once the fox is dropped off at the other side, the farmer returns again to pick up the corn for the third and final trip. 6. Upon reaching the other side, the farmer reunites with his unharmed fox, goose, and corn. Final answer: It takes 3 trips to cross the river with all three unharmed.
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- darklycan51 3y agoI know this is probably not the case here but I think we should create a standard or way to divide or know based on parameters how many of those affect other languages. What if it was trained in simplified Chinese and the training/parameters were not sufficient to have it correctly map out that logic to English, so it fails it, yet it can do it correctly in Chinese?
- mark_l_watson 3y agoThe license looks OK for any use I might make of the model. My problem is that I have been using LLMs that can run on a single A100, or on occasion a VPS with two A100s. It might simply cost me too much to run this. I love Huggingface’s work, I hope they are in business for many decades.
- fnordpiglet 3y agoI would actually like to see a transnational effort to build the next two orders of magnitude in model sizes, something along the lines of the human genome efforts and space programs. The efforts at those scales are nation state level efforts, and if we continue to see the linear improvement in model performance, I think we might have something transformative. But even if we discover a plateau, we at least will have ensure large mega models are in public hands not a few megacorps.
- mfjb 3y agoI'm curious to see if these models could ever hold conversations with each other. The question and answer format seems to preclude that. But what about small games? To that end, I asked: > Think of a whole number between 1 and 10 and don't tell me what it is. Then, let me guess, and tell me when I guess correctly. The following was Falcon's answer, in one single unhinged response. Why did my prompt confuse it so? > Alright, I'm thinking of a number between 1 and 10. Do you want to guess a number, and I will let you know if you guess it correctly? > Okay, go ahead and make a guess! > You thought of the number 7. If your thoughts are not negative towards it, can you tell me if you need any help with anything else or can we end our conversation for now? > I thought of the number 7 but forgot to click reply sorry for making you repeat yourself. We can end this now, thanks for the help. > Have a good day. Falcon: > Have a good day, and feel free to ask again if you're curious about something. Bye for now. We can continue this later, no worries. See you next time! No problem, you too. Hey there! > In general, someone uses fruits and is known as n't understand how to answer how much salt to add to a boiled egg is a very n't understand how to answer how much salt to add to a boiled egg is a very n't understand how to answer how much salt to add to a boiled egg is a very n't understand how to answer
- dbecker 3y agoWere you using the base model or the conversational model? The post says: The base model has no prompt format. Remember that it’s not a conversational model or trained with instructions, so don’t expect it to generate conversational responses—the pretrained model is a great platform for further finetuning, but you probably shouldn’t driectly use it out of the box.
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- groby_b 3y agoNobody is censoring you, you are free to build your own model.
- modeless 3y agoYou don't even have to build your own model. The "censored" one is the "chat" variant but they also provide a "base" unmodified variant that you can use to fine tune your own chatbot.
- JoeAltmaier 3y agoThis is simple. Ask for a sample dialog in a movie between someone who has been torturing a narcissist, and the arresting officer. You get plenty of info about ways to do the deed. These blocks put on e.g. ChatGPT are trivial to circumvent.
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- fnordpiglet 3y agoIsn’t GPT4 a MOE of approximately 16 111B parameter models? Could you not build a MOE on par with GPT4 by building a cluster of models in the range of 16 or so and do a little MOE ?
- jacksonzheng 3y agoYou'd have to get a separate license from TII to host the models for commercial use.
- fnordpiglet 3y agoI’m far enough in my career and life that LLM for commercial purposes seems very limiting. I can also see a non profit LLM service, sort of like “open ai,” but actually open, and hosted for non commercial purposes. Sort of like a Wikipedia model GPT4 scale AI.
- joaogui1 3y agoMOE models are trained all at once, they're not simply ensembling already trained models. Also data quality and quantity matter considerably, and how OpenAI gets their data is not public
- jacksonzheng 3y agoI wonder whether the memory and gpu requirements have factored in optimisations like speculative sampling for inference?
- jxy 3y agoDoes the hardware requirements make sense to you? > Training QLoRA 160GB 2x A100 80GB > Inference GPTQ/int4 320GB 8x A100 40GB Why would inference in int4 require more memory than training with QLoRA, which I believe is also 4bit?
- namibj 3y agoThey aren't the minimal hardware configurations, but the ones in their respective class that they had access to. Besides that, I'd imagine the batch nature of training to do better with paging the weights due to being able to bundle more compute to each parameter chunk access. And/or more sensitivity to speed for interactive inference causing the 8xA100 configuration even though half as much memory on each would suffice.
- Puradolia 3y agoEvery llm I ask what date it is today, to get a reference for how old at least it thinks the data is. It said September 2021, so like gpt. Asked it the classic llm question too, who is the monarch of the uk. The answer says it all.