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Why is everyone buying these better off?

maxbond 3y ago
I think this game got unfairly caught in the crossfire (a sort of dead weight loss of consistently enforcing a policy), but it's easy to imagine Steam drowning in low-effort, slapdash games cranked out using AI. Like the junk you see on mobile, where the games are often "minimal viable ad platforms" rather than a "minimal playable games" (and one would hope for more than the minimum, anyway). Though the top level comment asserting this is probably more about copyright than quality is probably right as well.
- chii 3y ago
  Steam is already drowning in low effort trash games. They don't surface much, since being a paid store, the ranking based on sales is pretty accurate to the quality of the game (not to mention the generous 2h refund).
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- Ekaros 3y ago
  You don't need AI for that. It is already filled with low-effort engine tutorial level junk. I was attacked for saying that entry barrier of 100$ was too low, but clearly that would have been only reasonable way to remove some.
  - maxbond 3y ago
    If the problem already exists, then in Valve's mind, it ought to be even more concerned, no? Automation would be like pouring gasoline on a fire.
add-sub-mul-div 3y ago
Steam is already hard to browse because of a sea of low quality shovelware. AI, if that's what the comment is referring to, is likely to make that situation much worse and degrade the platform. And Steam gets that.
- astrange 3y ago
  Unclear if they do really. Steam started their current "we allow absolutely everything" policy because they were tired of people making fun of them for constantly banning Japanese games because they think anything anime-style is child porn. Except the actual policy implementation is that Japanese games still get banned, even if they're all-ages and on every other storefront, but now it's also full of Western hentai games. (This is consistent with Steam getting employees from Microsoft, DirectX/Xbox were codenamed on the theme "what's the most racist thing we can say about our Japanese competitors".)
- capableweb 3y ago
  > Steam is already hard to browse because of a sea of low quality shovelware. AI, if that's what the comment is referring to, is likely to make that situation much worse and degrade the platform. And Steam gets that. Wouldn't you say there is a different between "Games made by AI" and "Games that included AI in one build for a specific feature as a test, and removed it"? The shovelware you talked about is the first, not the second.

I think this game got unfairly caught in the crossfire (a sort of dead weight loss of consistently enforcing a policy), but it's easy to imagine Steam drowning in low-effort, slapdash games cranked out using AI. Like the junk you see on mobile, where the games are often "minimal viable ad platforms" rather than a "minimal playable games" (and one would hope for more than the minimum, anyway). Though the top level comment asserting this is probably more about copyright than quality is probably right as well.

chii 3y ago
Steam is already drowning in low effort trash games. They don't surface much, since being a paid store, the ranking based on sales is pretty accurate to the quality of the game (not to mention the generous 2h refund).
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Ekaros 3y ago
You don't need AI for that. It is already filled with low-effort engine tutorial level junk. I was attacked for saying that entry barrier of 100$ was too low, but clearly that would have been only reasonable way to remove some.
- maxbond 3y ago
  If the problem already exists, then in Valve's mind, it ought to be even more concerned, no? Automation would be like pouring gasoline on a fire.

add-sub-mul-div 3y ago

Steam is already hard to browse because of a sea of low quality shovelware. AI, if that's what the comment is referring to, is likely to make that situation much worse and degrade the platform. And Steam gets that.

astrange 3y ago
Unclear if they do really. Steam started their current "we allow absolutely everything" policy because they were tired of people making fun of them for constantly banning Japanese games because they think anything anime-style is child porn. Except the actual policy implementation is that Japanese games still get banned, even if they're all-ages and on every other storefront, but now it's also full of Western hentai games. (This is consistent with Steam getting employees from Microsoft, DirectX/Xbox were codenamed on the theme "what's the most racist thing we can say about our Japanese competitors".)
capableweb 3y ago
> Steam is already hard to browse because of a sea of low quality shovelware. AI, if that's what the comment is referring to, is likely to make that situation much worse and degrade the platform. And Steam gets that. Wouldn't you say there is a different between "Games made by AI" and "Games that included AI in one build for a specific feature as a test, and removed it"? The shovelware you talked about is the first, not the second.