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Home schooling is a real burden on many parents who aren't professional teachers of course and are pulled in many directions. One of the most exciting emerging

Home schooling is a real burden on many parents who aren't professional teachers of course and are pulled in many directions. One of the most exciting emerging trends in home schooling is to pool the resources of multiple home schooling parents. It's simply not practical for parents to commit all the hours needed for full time home schooling 9 till 3:30PM every day. So home schooling parents can team up and share the load a little bit. This means the kids gather together at one parents house because many kids can learn from the person doing the teaching. "Grouped home schooling" also solves the usual criticism of home schooling which is the lack of social contact between kids. Often as well it makes sense for the parents all to contribute a little money so that instead of the parents having to teach things that they are not expert in, the can pay as a group for someone with subject expertise to assist. It can be problematic though gathering so many kids into one house for group home schooling, so another exciting development in modern home schooling is when a location is found somewhere in the community for it to happen. Often there's a room available at the church. Alternatively, if the parents pool an amount of money each then such a location can be leased long term and can be set up with desks and chairs for the kids to sit at. When you combine all these forward looking advances in home schooling you can see that home schooling has come a long way since the 1970's when kids sat at the kitchen table with mum teaching the lessons. Exciting times for home schooling!

glitchc 3y ago
>This means the kids gather together in one location because many kids can learn from the person doing the teaching. >Often as well it makes sense for the parents all to contribute a little money so that instead of the parents having to teach things that they are not expert in, the can pay as a group for someone with subject expertise to assist. >It can be problematic though gathering so many kids into one house for group home schooling, so another exciting development in modern home schooling is when a location is found somewhere in the community for it to happen. Again, if the parents pool an amount of money each then such a location can be leased long term and can be set up with desks and chairs for the kids to sit at. This is tongue in cheek I presume, as it's sounding just like a regular school.
- grug_htmx_dev 3y ago
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  - soulofmischief 3y ago
    Sounds like a private school.
    - qup 3y ago
      We like to rebrand things in 2023. Trailers and campers are now tiny homes. Pressure cookers are instant pots. Convection ovens are air fryers. NIH syndrome?
      - novok 3y ago
        At least instant pot is a brand name effect, like xerox, and not a literal rephrase.
    - tbrownaw 3y ago
      Sounds like a cloud-ified (ephemeral, on-demand, relatively small) version of a private school.
  - wyldfire 3y ago
    Out of all the things the government does, public education is a rare example of a positive externality.
- wyldfire 3y ago
  It's not. It's Poe's law, in action.
  - deleted 3y ago
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- megablast 3y ago
  Nothing gets passed your professor. If we do have online learning, maybe the need for schools goes away?
LudwigNagasena 3y ago
The biggest problem with the setup you outlined is that the central government has no say in what is being taught to kids. So no matter how similar homeschooling will look to government-controlled schooling, people with power will never stop attacking it because of that crucial nuisance.
- runnerup 3y ago
  That depends on the state[0]. West Virginia appears to be the strictest, requiring homeschooled students to score above the median public school standardized assessment score. 0: https://responsiblehomeschooling.org/research/current-policy/assessment-intervention/ https://responsiblehomeschooling.org/research/current-policy...
- whimsicalism 3y ago
  It's also a ploy to avoid integrated schools, but I think we gave up on the Brown v. Board world a few decades ago. e: Not saying this is the reason but it is certainly the subtextual reason in the southern urban school district I lived in that a lot of kids were homeschooled.
- whynotminot 3y ago
  The “I don’t want the government perspective imposed on my children” is so funny to me as a homeschooling argument. Go to schoolboard meetings. Talk to your kids and their teachers. Understand what your kids are learning. If you feel a perspective is missing, fill in the gaps. Your kids will be better off for seeing different perspectives, understanding basic argumentation, and coming to their own conclusions. Oh this sounds like a lot of work? Well, the alternative, pulling them out of school and designing their entire education sounds like way more work than just being reasonably engaged?
  - MrPatan 3y ago
    What if it's not about missing perspectives, but exposure to infohazards?
    - 3y ago
soligern 3y ago
This just sounds like school. I guess the difference is you can be very selective with what you teach and pick your own curriculum, especially if you’re a fundamentalist religious person and don’t agree with what most schools teach.
shakabrah 3y ago
One of the very first things i learned when i began homeschooling was that 9 to 3:30 schooling simply exists for parents work schedules. We can typically knock out our school day in 2 to 3 hours altogether. Granted, my kids are still elementary age
- nxm 3y ago
  This is due to daylight hours, particularly in northern areas when most work can actually be done
- IshKebab 3y ago
  I'm not sure that's really true. 9 to 3:30 existed when housewives were the norm (which was only one or two generations ago). It's clearly not ideal for working parents because most jobs won't let you finish work at 3:30! Also consider school holidays. How many jobs let you take 12 weeks of holiday a year? I've asked loads of working parents how they deal with that and the answer is always "it's impossible, you have to use grandparents, scrounge together enough holiday, try to take unpaid leave, etc.".
cratermoon 3y ago
Why not spend all those hours and money to improving public schools?
- lotsoweiners 3y ago
  Think about it like work. A low level manager or individual contributor may be able to greatly change trajectory and outcomes for their small team but is unlikely to change anything for an entire global organization and the bureaucracy that comes with it. With enough successes at a low level then maybe those get recognized and the effects begin to trickle up. Or maybe not but at least you did the best you could for what you were directly responsible for.
- chasd00 3y ago
  There’s nothing worth saving and more money just makes it even worse. The districts are incompetent, the school administrations are wildly incompetent and the teachers union is just ridiculous. There’s nothing in the public school system worth working on. Homeschool if you can or do your best to budget for private school. Edit: my wife is a HS teacher of 15 years. Her and many of her teacher friends are leaving the industry. It’s just not fixable.
  - cratermoon 3y ago
    Sounds like something with an axe to grind would say.
mmierz 3y ago
> It's simply not practical for parents to commit all the hours needed for full time home schooling 9 till 3:30PM every day This is a “tell me you don’t homeschool without telling me you don’t homeschool” No homeschooling family I ever met has set hours, and most spend far less time than that daily. Schoolwork takes a lot less time when you cut out the crowd control, distractions, “pledging allegiance” and other nonsense Edit: I see I missed the joke
- computerphage 3y ago
  Yes you did, but also I do indeed always forget this when I imagine homeschooling
- watwut 3y ago
  I never did pledge of allegiance nor my kids. Never homeschooled.
bitlax 3y ago
TIL there is no difference between a City of Baltimore public school and a hagwon because they both have desks and chairs.
wredue 3y ago
So you’re saying that all the parent should each contribute a little bit of money and share responsibility for actually teaching. Heck, maybe they could even, oh, I dunno, eventually hire someone to do that teaching!
- rayiner 3y ago
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andrepd 3y ago
Laughed at this one.
Cypher 3y ago
Home schooling isn't a 9 till 3:30PM everyday. It doesn't have to mimic the systematic school routine. It's far more flexible and beneficial for students that are being held back by school or falling behind.

glitchc 3y ago

>This means the kids gather together in one location because many kids can learn from the person doing the teaching. >Often as well it makes sense for the parents all to contribute a little money so that instead of the parents having to teach things that they are not expert in, the can pay as a group for someone with subject expertise to assist. >It can be problematic though gathering so many kids into one house for group home schooling, so another exciting development in modern home schooling is when a location is found somewhere in the community for it to happen. Again, if the parents pool an amount of money each then such a location can be leased long term and can be set up with desks and chairs for the kids to sit at. This is tongue in cheek I presume, as it's sounding just like a regular school.

grug_htmx_dev 3y ago
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- soulofmischief 3y ago
  Sounds like a private school.
  - qup 3y ago
    We like to rebrand things in 2023. Trailers and campers are now tiny homes. Pressure cookers are instant pots. Convection ovens are air fryers. NIH syndrome?
    - novok 3y ago
      At least instant pot is a brand name effect, like xerox, and not a literal rephrase.
  - tbrownaw 3y ago
    Sounds like a cloud-ified (ephemeral, on-demand, relatively small) version of a private school.
- wyldfire 3y ago
  Out of all the things the government does, public education is a rare example of a positive externality.
wyldfire 3y ago
It's not. It's Poe's law, in action.
- deleted 3y ago
  [deleted]
megablast 3y ago
Nothing gets passed your professor. If we do have online learning, maybe the need for schools goes away?

LudwigNagasena 3y ago

The biggest problem with the setup you outlined is that the central government has no say in what is being taught to kids. So no matter how similar homeschooling will look to government-controlled schooling, people with power will never stop attacking it because of that crucial nuisance.

runnerup 3y ago
That depends on the state[0]. West Virginia appears to be the strictest, requiring homeschooled students to score above the median public school standardized assessment score. 0: https://responsiblehomeschooling.org/research/current-policy/assessment-intervention/ https://responsiblehomeschooling.org/research/current-policy...
whimsicalism 3y ago
It's also a ploy to avoid integrated schools, but I think we gave up on the Brown v. Board world a few decades ago. e: Not saying this is the reason but it is certainly the subtextual reason in the southern urban school district I lived in that a lot of kids were homeschooled.
whynotminot 3y ago
The “I don’t want the government perspective imposed on my children” is so funny to me as a homeschooling argument. Go to schoolboard meetings. Talk to your kids and their teachers. Understand what your kids are learning. If you feel a perspective is missing, fill in the gaps. Your kids will be better off for seeing different perspectives, understanding basic argumentation, and coming to their own conclusions. Oh this sounds like a lot of work? Well, the alternative, pulling them out of school and designing their entire education sounds like way more work than just being reasonably engaged?
- MrPatan 3y ago
  What if it's not about missing perspectives, but exposure to infohazards?
  - 3y ago

soligern 3y ago

This just sounds like school. I guess the difference is you can be very selective with what you teach and pick your own curriculum, especially if you’re a fundamentalist religious person and don’t agree with what most schools teach.

shakabrah 3y ago

One of the very first things i learned when i began homeschooling was that 9 to 3:30 schooling simply exists for parents work schedules. We can typically knock out our school day in 2 to 3 hours altogether. Granted, my kids are still elementary age

nxm 3y ago
This is due to daylight hours, particularly in northern areas when most work can actually be done
IshKebab 3y ago
I'm not sure that's really true. 9 to 3:30 existed when housewives were the norm (which was only one or two generations ago). It's clearly not ideal for working parents because most jobs won't let you finish work at 3:30! Also consider school holidays. How many jobs let you take 12 weeks of holiday a year? I've asked loads of working parents how they deal with that and the answer is always "it's impossible, you have to use grandparents, scrounge together enough holiday, try to take unpaid leave, etc.".

cratermoon 3y ago

Why not spend all those hours and money to improving public schools?

lotsoweiners 3y ago
Think about it like work. A low level manager or individual contributor may be able to greatly change trajectory and outcomes for their small team but is unlikely to change anything for an entire global organization and the bureaucracy that comes with it. With enough successes at a low level then maybe those get recognized and the effects begin to trickle up. Or maybe not but at least you did the best you could for what you were directly responsible for.
chasd00 3y ago
There’s nothing worth saving and more money just makes it even worse. The districts are incompetent, the school administrations are wildly incompetent and the teachers union is just ridiculous. There’s nothing in the public school system worth working on. Homeschool if you can or do your best to budget for private school. Edit: my wife is a HS teacher of 15 years. Her and many of her teacher friends are leaving the industry. It’s just not fixable.
- cratermoon 3y ago
  Sounds like something with an axe to grind would say.

mmierz 3y ago

> It's simply not practical for parents to commit all the hours needed for full time home schooling 9 till 3:30PM every day This is a “tell me you don’t homeschool without telling me you don’t homeschool” No homeschooling family I ever met has set hours, and most spend far less time than that daily. Schoolwork takes a lot less time when you cut out the crowd control, distractions, “pledging allegiance” and other nonsense Edit: I see I missed the joke

computerphage 3y ago
Yes you did, but also I do indeed always forget this when I imagine homeschooling
watwut 3y ago
I never did pledge of allegiance nor my kids. Never homeschooled.

bitlax 3y ago

TIL there is no difference between a City of Baltimore public school and a hagwon because they both have desks and chairs.

wredue 3y ago

So you’re saying that all the parent should each contribute a little bit of money and share responsibility for actually teaching. Heck, maybe they could even, oh, I dunno, eventually hire someone to do that teaching!

rayiner 3y ago
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andrepd 3y ago

Laughed at this one.

Cypher 3y ago

Home schooling isn't a 9 till 3:30PM everyday. It doesn't have to mimic the systematic school routine. It's far more flexible and beneficial for students that are being held back by school or falling behind.