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I think zoning is a big part of the problem. Before WW2, it was much easier to build the housing that new immigrants needed when they arrived. Toda, there is mi
by alexlesuper 3y ago
I think zoning is a big part of the problem. Before WW2, it was much easier to build the housing that new immigrants needed when they arrived. Toda, there is miles of red tape and zoning regulations that keep new neighborhoods from forming and maturing. It's a real shame.
- madengr 3y ago[dead]
- PM_me_your_math 3y agoWhere are you going to build housing in the boroughs?
- ok_dad 3y agoUpwards
- lotsofpulp 3y agoThe bigger problem is there is only one New York City, and zoning is one issue that prevents another New York City from coming into existence.
- seanmcdirmid 3y agoEveryone wants to live in NYC and they can’t. So I guess your ideas are to build more desirable cites to live in to take the pressure off of NYC?
- lotsofpulp 3y agoYes, there is no comparable city to NYC in the US, especially with the subway and density.
- seanmcdirmid 3y agoThat’s true. But there are lots of cities in the USA that aren’t considered very desirable and so have surplus housing.
- genman 3y agoMaybe those cities are not desirable for a reason?
- seanmcdirmid 3y agoMaybe, but if so it sounds like city desirability can’t merely be improved Sony eliminating zoning then.
- yuyuyi 3y ago[flagged]
- ChumpGPT 3y ago>I think zoning is a big part of the problem. I don't think so. The problem is simply to many refugees for the infrastructure/system to absorb. Do we build 10's of 1000's of housing units for future refugee's and immigrants every year, where are the funds for these units procured? My grandfather slept in a park on a bench when he arrived after WW2 as a DP. No one provided him with anything, he had to look for work, find a way to feed himself and finally he managed to split a room in a rooming house with 2 other people. He said the bed they slept in was always warm because someone was getting up to go to work and someone came home from work and was going to sleep. Many families lived the same way. What's interesting is they had no social assistance or help of any kind. Today there is a belief these types of people should be provided with everything. It just isn't plausible.
- FirmwareBurner 3y ago>Today there is a belief these types of people should be provided with everything. It just isn't plausible. Living standards were lower back then and WW2 USA was far less wealthy than it is today. Now it can afford to provide humane present-day conditions to people until they can find work and housing themselves. Just count the money the US spent on the war on terror and the war on drugs, it's more than the GDP of some countries. Refugees don't want hand-outs, they want opportunities to work and provide for themselves. If you deny them decent opportunities and humane living conditions from the start, they're guaranteed to turn to crime to survive, then everyone looses.
- SenAnder 3y agoI don't know about WW2 USA, but 1970s USA was wealthier - wages have not kept up with house prices [1], car prices, education, gas [2], or rent [2,3]. But GDP is up... [1] https://old.reddit.com/r/lostgeneration/comments/fgkb83/its_even_worse_than_i_thought_housing_prices_vs/ https://old.reddit.com/r/lostgeneration/comments/fgkb83/its_... [2] https://old.reddit.com/r/explainlikeimfive/comments/439mr8/eli5what_has_changed_in_the_last_40_years_so_that/ https://old.reddit.com/r/explainlikeimfive/comments/439mr8/e... [3] https://www.apartmentlist.com/rentonomics/rent-growth-since-1960/ https://www.apartmentlist.com/rentonomics/rent-growth-since-...
- SAI_Peregrinus 3y agoHouston, Tx is a good counterexample to the generic "zoning is the problem" idea.
- bombcar 3y agoHouston has zoning by other names (mainly land covenants).
- xboxnolifes 3y agoHouston has zoning if we define zoning as "rules that define where you can build, what you can build, and what auxiliary details you must include". They just don't call it zoning. More importantly, near everyone arguing for change in zoning aren't saying that zoning should be abolished, just changed. So, Houston is not a counter-example.
- ungruntled 3y agoI’m sure there is a lot more available space than the city lets on. You can see residential luxury high-rises where most of lights on every floor are off at night. Nobody is living in them. 10s of empty rent controlled units in each of many buildings where those units stay empty for years. The city may be struggling to house these migrants, but I’m sure there is a strong incentive to keep normal housing units unavailable so friends of politicians can fill their low demand hotel rooms and supply catering at very favorable rates.
- colonCapitalDee 3y ago> You can see residential luxury high-rises where most of lights on every floor are off at night. Nobody is living in them. Most people turn their lights off at night?