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Ridiculous captcha at GitHub to reset your password
- NBJack 3y agoAnyone else bothered by the fact that it asks you to pick a pair, when there are clearly four dice in each pic? Did I miss something, or is this either broken or intentionally misleading? Technically, there is no traditonal pair of 6-sided die that would meet that criteria.
- amanzi 3y agoSpeaking of ridiculous captchas, I've just started getting captchas while chatting with ChatGPT. Took me a while to figure out what the hell they were asking, and for whatever reason I'm now getting one of these at least twice per hour. Anyone else seeing these? I'm a Pro subscriber too...
- becks_benny 3y agoYou need to reset your password of your github account? Good luck with that, the captcha will screw you over. There are 6 pictures with each having 4 dices. You have to add up the dice count and find the picture whose dice count is equal to 14. It starts with 5 rounds, but after that you have to complete 5 more rounds. You need more than 5 seconds to solve a round? That is too slow, you have to start from the start again. A colleague had to reset his password, and it took 3 people in the zoom call and 3 tries until we were able to solve the captcha. How can anyone think that this is a good idea?
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- adhvaryu 3y agoThat doesn't seem that difficult, why would you need 3 people for it? Although, having to do it >5 times is a bit much.
- becks_benny 3y agoAdding 4 digits is not difficult, but doing this fast enough to be accepted by the captcha system is really hard. I was not kidding when I said that if you need more then 5 seconds per round, you failed and must start again.
- jwestbury 3y agoFive seconds is pretty crazy. It's not just an arithmetic problem, it's a visual recognition problem. There are plenty of ways this can go wrong, for plenty of disability reasons, many of which aren't even obvious to the person trying to solve them.
- 8organicbits 3y agoIs there a computer-based solver that can solve these, but always takes longer than five seconds?
- viraptor 3y agoNah, this seems like a really basic CV problem that should be solvable in milliseconds. The hardest part would be rejecting the sides that don't face up, but even that isn't a huge deal.
- misnome 3y ago> That doesn't seem that difficult, why would you need 3 people for it? To know which one to click on, you have to add up all of the dice, in all of the six pictures, including upside-down/deliberately confusing numerics mixed amongst the dice. You can do that in five seconds, for 5/10/15 rounds, without a single mistake?
- pipo234 3y agoSeems like a prototypical diversity problem: the bros at github that designed the challenge couldn't find anyone in the room to whom the challenge wasn't obvious, easy and brilliant. :-)
- jwestbury 3y agoThis is exactly the sort of problem increased workplace diversity helps to solve, and it's a great argument for an expansive definition of diversity, which includes traditional measures such as race and gender, but also non-traditional measures, such as socioeconomic background, education, etc. (To wit: The best engineering team I've ever worked on was three computer science grads, two boot-camp grads with backgrounds in chemistry and sports medicine, respectively, and myself, with a degree in English lit but extensive industry experience. We all brought different things to the table, and we produced robust, maintainable services.)
- milesvp 3y agoThis anecdote doesn’t surprise me, there was a study done some years ago that looked at paper citations and there was a strong correlation with diversity of the team and citations. What I remember of the excerpt was that they didn’t just look at common things like gender and skin tone, but also tried to take into account class and economic diversity as well. I didn’t scrutinize the paper as much as I probably should have, but it definitely fit with my personal experience that diverse teams tend to be better. (yay confirmation bias!)
- chewmieser 3y agoI encountered this same problem in Rockstar's launcher. Lead me to refund RDR2 when I bought it last. They're quite user-hostile.
- misnome 3y ago> How can anyone think that this is a good idea? I've always assumed that captchas like this are only used when they have already "Decided" never to let you in, so just feed you a constant stream of captchas to burn your time, and make you think that it's your fault
- yowzadave 3y agoBingo--I sometimes have this experience if I visit a site with my VPN turned on.
- WarOnPrivacy 3y ago> I've always assumed that captchas like this are only used when they have already "Decided" never to let you in, so just feed you a constant stream of captchas to burn your time, and make you think that it's your fault I think Google & Yandex have the cruelty of gaslighting down to an science. It's one captcha after another, no matter if you solve it. Never-being-satisfied behavior is super familiar to anyone who's lived with an abusive narcissist.
- compsciphd 3y agoeventually they let you in. i think its somewhat ip reputation based (with reputation being how many captches have been solved from that ip). i.e. I've temporarily "burnt" my local IP by doing too many captches in a short period of time so that it wont allow me in easily (i.e. captcha after captchas, probably spend a minute or 2 doing all of them before I get through). However, after some period of time, it resets and allows me in more easily
- WarOnPrivacy 3y ago> eventually they let you in. Often they don't. I've run Google out past 20 attempts and not gotten in. More common are 10x-15x rounds that dump me back to the Sorry page.
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- yankput 3y ago5 seconds? lol, it takes me 5 seconds to just count one of the sums
- gruez 3y agoI think OP was being hyperbolic. I've gotten similar captchas before and while there's a timeout eventually (eg. if you stepped away for a coffee), there's more than enough time allotted to count each of the options.
- miki123211 3y agoWhat's the accessibility-focused alternative? Those tend to be easier sometimes.
- behnamoh 3y agoThe answer is lower left, but then again, you must be smart to understand that the other die is "6" not "9". This is ridiculous tbh.
- suddenclarity 3y agoReading the post and OP's comment, I think he approaches it the wrong way and actually try to count when a quick glance would eliminate 4 out of 6 options. If you see 6+5+4 you just know it's too high or 1+2+2 is way to low. Not much serious counting needed. However, that 6/9 really threw me off and came across as terrible design.
- SpaghettiCthulu 3y agoThere's a line under the 6 for a reason. It tells you the correct orientation.
- LinAGKar 3y agoThe line is barely visible due to the compression
- suddenclarity 3y agoI was looking for that but the line isn't visible on my computer unless I zoom in far. Maybe more obvious when doing the captcha for real and not looking at a compressed image.
- mattnewton 3y agoEasy to miss in a timed operation that is threatening to lock you out of an account you might need to do your job.
- gcr 3y agoMost folks aren't used to that kind of back-of-envelope mental arithmetic.
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- swader999 3y agoIt's easier with co-pilot.
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- extr0pian 3y agoThis is the exact CAPTCHA that led me to delete my AirBnb account. I was just trying to log in and finally gave up after 5 or 6 attempts. The next day I tried again and was able to log in after the 3rd try. From what I understand, this CAPTCHA is also time based too. I was so frustrated at what they made me go through to just log in, that I just deleted my account. Counting dice should be a task for a computer, not a human.
- thebruce87m 3y agoMaybe if you did the capture the computer would be trained by now.
- xwdv 3y agoI wish hard captchas were required to make an account in some communities. For instance, you could ask some leet code type questions for a software engineering community so that only really smart people can post there.
- miohtama 3y agoIf you hate resetting password I suggest migrating to WebAuthn: https://webauthn.io/ https://webauthn.io/ The best password is no password.
- walthamstow 3y agoI always use the audio version of captcha. The visual ones are just way too ambiguous or in this case downright ridiculous. Usually in the audio version it's two or three words spoken over a bit of background noise. Much easier!
- _nalply 3y agoNot for me because I am Deaf.
- ethanbond 3y agoThe future internet is just gonna be AIs talking to each other as more and more humans are excluded from participation. Anyone have an explanation as to how this doesn’t occur? Other than something crazy like Worldcoin?
- 243f 3y agoMaybe wishful thinking, but the ideal for me would be reverting back to small forums that are dedicated to specific topics. This would easier to moderate and more decentralized than the current model of only using a handful of social media sites.
- Gigachad 3y agoGovernments just create some auth service linked to your ID. This would be pretty easy with the only downside of a total loss of privacy and the ability to have multiple accounts.
- 243f 3y agoTechnically it doesn't have to result in a loss of privacy (at least not much of it). It's possible to use some signature schemes that would let you create accounts from your government issued ID that can't actually be traced back to you, but this would require ordinary people manage secret keys and I don't think that's possible.
- blogornot 3y agoI'd like to see a captcha that shows you C code samples and you need to spot the memory corruption.
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- rajamaka 3y agoOr show social scenarios and make the user decide the appropriate behaviour. More challenging for the target market
- KoftaBob 3y agoGood way to lock out 80% of software engineers and bring the tech industry to a halt :)
- troyvit 3y agoWouldn't it be great if they tailored the questions to software engineers? Q. You find yourself at a party, but you forgot your pants. Do you: a. Pretend that you have pants and hope nobody notices. b. Accept that this is a dream and just go with it. c. Go home and find your pants. (correct answer: a or b)
- cafard 3y agoAMEN!
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- hardware2win 3y agoWitnessed those, it sucks
- fideloper 3y agoI think people need to understand that everyone processes things a bit differently due to genetics (brain) + environment (education style, etc). I'm slow at this type of thing as well, and the complaint about this was one I agreed with even tho I've never hit it before. I know people who could solve this at a glance because they're "smarter" (their brain is more optimized for this type of solution) and/or they've developed heuristics for it at some point in their life.
- Kiuhrly1 3y agoThis is a complete accessibility failure on so many levels. People with visual or cognitive impairments would be screwed if not for the audio alternative. If you happen to also be deaf, you are at the mercy of support who will probably assume you're an attacker.
- MrMember 3y agoThat's assuming you can even reach an actual human through support.
- 2devnull 3y agoI might get downvoted for saying so, but the internet is a dangerous place. If you aren’t alert enough to solve a captcha, much worse things can happen to you than having difficulty signing into GitHub. I’d prefer GitHub to remain secure, even if it’s hard for a negligible fraction of users who forget their passwords.
- tzs 3y agoThe complaints here are not about the existence of a CAPTCHA for that page. The complaints are that this particular CAPTCHA is extraordinarily stupid.
- 2devnull 3y agoI don’t find it particularly so. I sort of like that style captcha as it requires thought. One has to figure out to quickly estimate and not actually try to sum/count the exact numbers. Maybe you have to do it twice, but it’s not very hard for a lot of people, obviously or it wouldn’t be deployed in production.
- beej71 3y agoIronically, this sounds like a great job for OpenCV.