4 ms·
This aligns with my similar theory (lack of O2 leads to depression) that was born from observations of yoga, meditation and walking all forced people to breath
by newsclues 3y ago
This aligns with my similar theory (lack of O2 leads to depression) that was born from observations of yoga, meditation and walking all forced people to breath more air through breath work, exercises or going outside, lead to better mental health outcomes.
I am going to assume that in urban vs rural areas that is a similar effect from air pollution.
But all my doctors have been inclined to give me pills for depression, and aren't interesting in exploring the relationship with O2.
- jraby3 3y agoI understood that rural air is significantly worse than urban due to all the pesticides.
- AnimalMuppet 3y agoWorse than urban air with auto pollution? I'd want to see a source for that...
- boesboes 3y agoYeah, ppl on the ring road of Amsterdam live 10 years shorter afaik, for instance
- dgut 3y agoSource? As a counter anecdote: Madrid, where most people live near traffic, has the highest life expectancy in the EU at 85.4 years.
- boesboes 3y agoI had to look it up, i was indeed mistaken. It's 79 days on average. The road is called the A10, so I guess I mixed that up :) Source, in dutch: https://www.hln.be/milieu/omwonenden-a10-snelweg-leven-79-dagen-korter-door-snelheidsverhoging~ab076ce0/ https://www.hln.be/milieu/omwonenden-a10-snelweg-leven-79-da...
- egman_ekki 3y agomaybe there are other factors at play here; who knows how long would they live if they didn't live near traffic.
- mapmap 3y agoWhat are they doing differently to get this average?
- Scoundreller 3y agoPoor people live next to highways? Or when we build the highway, we don’t raze the homes of the elite/wealthy/well-connected to do it, we do it in “bad neighbourhoods” Or indirect effects: factories move/build next to the new highway (ease of moving materials+density of employees+ease of commuting because of the highway), contaminating the neighbourhood.
- qwerasdf5 3y agoMany rural areas do not have farming.
- jskrablin 3y agoI live in a rural area and air here is significantly better than smog filled and ozone enriched air in the city I used to live in. Not to mention the lack of winter fog that can linger around for weeks at times. And that's excluding the light and noise pollution that are inevitable in urban areas. Yeah, living in a rural area is pure hell.
- thephyber 3y agoWhat do you believe Ozone is?!?
- callalex 3y agoDeeply toxic to human lungs.
- thephyber 3y agoToday I learned that ozone is typically found in the stratosphere (which I knew) but also at ground level due to chemical reactions.
- mrguyorama 3y agoAnd if you own an air purifier, likely in your room!
- jandrewrogers 3y agoA fairly toxic allotrope of oxygen?
- marcosdumay 3y agoYour link from "yoga, meditation and walking" to oxygen availability is... to put it mildly, in need of extra support.
- snakeyjake 3y agoYoga and walking are both exercise. Any form of aerobic exercise will increase oxygen availability. Elite, and dedicated amateur, athletes will develop specific breathing routines to increase O2 availability in support of increasing their VO2 Max but even for sedentary (so, typical) adults practically any form of mindful breathing coupled with higher-than-typical physical exertion will increase oxygen availability. Their breathing routines not coincidentally almost always mirror some kind of yogic breathing technique. Yogic breathing in hypobaric environment: breathing exercising and its effect on hypobaric hypoxemia and heart rate at 3,650-m elevation https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC8413908/ https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC8413908/ Effects of Slow Deep Breathing at High Altitude on Oxygen Saturation, Pulmonary and Systemic Hemodynamics https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3495772/ https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3495772/ When you meditate or do yoga asanas (poses) with a focus on your pranayama (breathing) as a matter of routine for long enough you subconsciously start performing yogic breathing all of the time. Walking is just irrefutably, no-citation-needed, good for you.
- renewiltord 3y agoUrban/rural v suicide relationships are all over the place: https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/abs/pii/S0165032799000580 https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/abs/pii/S01650... sees opposite relationship in China and Australia, e.g.
- deleted 3y ago[deleted]
- thephyber 3y agoI have lived in multiple cities and multiple exurbs, at sea level and at a ski resort town (7000+ ft above sea level). I would make these claims instead: - people at altitude spend more time indoors avoiding extreme weather caused by the altitude - o2 levels to the brain are not significantly different for people whose bodies have adjusted to the altitude already - people who live at altitude are more likely to be more active - cities in modern western countries are largely clean of major sources of air pollution (one of the few things NIMBYs are good at) - cities in developing countries (eg. Pakistan, India, China) are incredibly different - rural areas are largely clean of air pollution except in hotspots (eg. factories and mines) - your doctor likely doesn’t do actual science (“explore relationships”), but rather just disseminates the evidence that others have already recorded - your doctor likely works in the USA where we pay fee for service. Maybe you should look at how single payer systems align healthy patient long term outcomes align with the single payer total costs.