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I am 100.0% sure this is what someone has said for 256GB drives, 256MB drives, 256KB drives, and the same person will be saying it for 256YB drives.

by nmcela 3y ago

bguebert 3y ago
"640K ought to be enough for anybody"
amelius 3y ago
Was this the same person who said that 640KB ought to be enough for anybody?
- flskafdslaf 3y ago
  They are probably still right. How much of the computing resources we all now have access to do we actually need?
  - bryanlarsen 3y ago
    Many novels are more than 640KB of ASCII text.
    - TeMPOraL 3y ago
      They are, but ought they?
    - flskafdslaf 3y ago
      Makes you wonder how people read long novels before they had enough RAM!
jaggederest 3y ago
I clearly remember getting an 80gb drive, circa 2001-2002 I think, and talking with my friends about how impossible it would be to ever fill.
- lesuorac 3y ago
  The problem is that the size of media has been growing exponentially. When I keep wondering how my phone is running out of space every time its images / videos. Even when you look at an app that is like 400 MB its not 400 MB of code, its like 350 MB of images and 50 MB of code.
  - alphabetting 3y ago
    I laughed today when it was announced Buldar's Gate 3 is 120GB
    - jeegsy 3y ago
      Even with all these advancements, 120GB for a game is still and always will be a lot!
      - jasonjmcghee 3y ago
        Having many very high resolution textures adds up. I’m sure we’ll see it rise, especially in the age of generated textures and materials.
        serf 3y ago
        >I’m sure we’ll see it rise, especially in the age of generated textures and materials. if generative AIs get good enough then I suppose at some point the data transmitted for games and media could be significantly less than now -- you'd 'just' need to transmit the data required for the prompt to generate something within some bounded tolerance. Imagine a game shipping no textures, generating what was needed on the fly and in real time to fulfill some shipped set of priorities/prompts/flavors. we're not there yet but it seems like on-the-fly squashing of concepts into 'AI language' is going to be a trend in lossy compression at some point.
        jaggederest 3y ago
KnobbleMcKnees 3y ago
>256YB drives Ah yes, Yagnibytes.
- all2 3y ago
  Y'otta look that one up.
rbanffy 3y ago
While I agree, it's been hard filling up the 2TB drive in my laptop. My home server has a couple dozen terabytes (on spinning metal) and, with current fill rate, it's predicted it'll need an increase in space only after two of the drives reach retirement according to SMART. It hosts multiple development VMs and stores backups for all computers in the house. Another aspect is that the total write lifetime is a multiple of the drive capacity. You can treat a 256TB drive as a very durable 16TB drive, able to last 16 times more writes than the 16TB one.
- FirmwareBurner 3y ago
  >While I agree, it's been hard filling up the 2TB drive in my laptop. Then you're defiantly not torrenting enough "definitely legit" content as I am. Once you sail the dark seas it piles up quick. Or maybe I have ADHD.
  - alternatetwo 3y ago
    Or just download a few modern games. No torrents here, absolutely none.
  - FractalParadigm 3y ago
    I think, for me, it satisfies some kind of hoarding instinct. I have a hard time keeping 'random junk' laying around my apartment, but I have absolutely no problem keeping a copy of a DVD I ripped 15 years ago that I will probably never watch again, and would probably be upset if it disappeared for some reason.
  - TeMPOraL 3y ago
    Don't even have to set your sail; this landlubber likes likes to shoot videos with a smartphone, and these days, recording a few minutes of a family event, or even your plane taking off, in decent quality, will easily give you a multi-gigabyte video file. And that's for normal videos; $deity help you if you enable HDR. And yes, this is the universal answer to "how much storage is enough" - use cases will grow to consume generally-available computing resources. Today it's 4k UHD + HDR; tomorrow it'll be 8k UHD + HDR, few years later it will be 120 FPS lightfield recording with separate high-resolution radar depth map channel. And as long as progress in display tech keeps pace, the benefits will be apparent, and adoption will be swift.
dabluecaboose 3y ago
I vividly remember seeing a 5TB drive at Fry's Electronics sometime around 2010-2013 and thinking to my self "Who in gods name would ever need that much space" I now have 24 terabytes in my NAS
twerkmonsta 3y ago
But practically don’t you reach a threshold where storing that much data on one drive makes it a bottleneck and safety risk until the speed of the surrounding systems catch up?

I am 100.0% sure this is what someone has said for 256GB drives, 256MB drives, 256KB drives, and the same person will be saying it for 256YB drives.

by nmcela 3y ago

I am 100.0% sure this is what someone has said for 256GB drives, 256MB drives, 256KB drives, and the same person will be saying it for 256YB drives.

bguebert 3y ago

"640K ought to be enough for anybody"

amelius 3y ago

Was this the same person who said that 640KB ought to be enough for anybody?

flskafdslaf 3y ago
They are probably still right. How much of the computing resources we all now have access to do we actually need?
- bryanlarsen 3y ago
  Many novels are more than 640KB of ASCII text.
  - TeMPOraL 3y ago
    They are, but ought they?
  - flskafdslaf 3y ago
    Makes you wonder how people read long novels before they had enough RAM!

jaggederest 3y ago

I clearly remember getting an 80gb drive, circa 2001-2002 I think, and talking with my friends about how impossible it would be to ever fill.

lesuorac 3y ago
The problem is that the size of media has been growing exponentially. When I keep wondering how my phone is running out of space every time its images / videos. Even when you look at an app that is like 400 MB its not 400 MB of code, its like 350 MB of images and 50 MB of code.
- alphabetting 3y ago
  I laughed today when it was announced Buldar's Gate 3 is 120GB
  - jeegsy 3y ago
    Even with all these advancements, 120GB for a game is still and always will be a lot!
    - jasonjmcghee 3y ago
      Having many very high resolution textures adds up. I’m sure we’ll see it rise, especially in the age of generated textures and materials.
      - serf 3y ago
        >I’m sure we’ll see it rise, especially in the age of generated textures and materials. if generative AIs get good enough then I suppose at some point the data transmitted for games and media could be significantly less than now -- you'd 'just' need to transmit the data required for the prompt to generate something within some bounded tolerance. Imagine a game shipping no textures, generating what was needed on the fly and in real time to fulfill some shipped set of priorities/prompts/flavors. we're not there yet but it seems like on-the-fly squashing of concepts into 'AI language' is going to be a trend in lossy compression at some point.
        jaggederest 3y ago

KnobbleMcKnees 3y ago

>256YB drives Ah yes, Yagnibytes.

all2 3y ago
Y'otta look that one up.

rbanffy 3y ago

While I agree, it's been hard filling up the 2TB drive in my laptop. My home server has a couple dozen terabytes (on spinning metal) and, with current fill rate, it's predicted it'll need an increase in space only after two of the drives reach retirement according to SMART. It hosts multiple development VMs and stores backups for all computers in the house. Another aspect is that the total write lifetime is a multiple of the drive capacity. You can treat a 256TB drive as a very durable 16TB drive, able to last 16 times more writes than the 16TB one.

FirmwareBurner 3y ago
>While I agree, it's been hard filling up the 2TB drive in my laptop. Then you're defiantly not torrenting enough "definitely legit" content as I am. Once you sail the dark seas it piles up quick. Or maybe I have ADHD.
- alternatetwo 3y ago
  Or just download a few modern games. No torrents here, absolutely none.
- FractalParadigm 3y ago
  I think, for me, it satisfies some kind of hoarding instinct. I have a hard time keeping 'random junk' laying around my apartment, but I have absolutely no problem keeping a copy of a DVD I ripped 15 years ago that I will probably never watch again, and would probably be upset if it disappeared for some reason.
- TeMPOraL 3y ago
  Don't even have to set your sail; this landlubber likes likes to shoot videos with a smartphone, and these days, recording a few minutes of a family event, or even your plane taking off, in decent quality, will easily give you a multi-gigabyte video file. And that's for normal videos; $deity help you if you enable HDR. And yes, this is the universal answer to "how much storage is enough" - use cases will grow to consume generally-available computing resources. Today it's 4k UHD + HDR; tomorrow it'll be 8k UHD + HDR, few years later it will be 120 FPS lightfield recording with separate high-resolution radar depth map channel. And as long as progress in display tech keeps pace, the benefits will be apparent, and adoption will be swift.

dabluecaboose 3y ago

I vividly remember seeing a 5TB drive at Fry's Electronics sometime around 2010-2013 and thinking to my self "Who in gods name would ever need that much space" I now have 24 terabytes in my NAS

twerkmonsta 3y ago

But practically don’t you reach a threshold where storing that much data on one drive makes it a bottleneck and safety risk until the speed of the surrounding systems catch up?