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USB-C Confirmed for the iPhone 15
- ksec 3y agoPlease don't edit title as per guidelines. There is no reason why the original title can't be used as it fits the character limit. "USB-C confirmed for the iPhone 15 in new leaked part images"
- ShadowBanThis01 3y agoArguing for more-descriptive titles (and against shitty ones) is always good. Meanwhile, "as per" is redundant.
- xeromal 3y ago"as per" is just plain ole snark
- exabrial 3y agoFinally. Now I just hope they don't institute some dumb program where it only talks to Apple devices or some crap.
- extraduder_ire 3y agoThe EU has already said that would be illegal. Apple may still do it, but I expect they'd stop pretty soon after an import ban happens. (I don't think they do any manufacturing in the EU anymore)
- CharlesW 3y ago> Now I just hope they don't institute some dumb program where it only talks to Apple devices or some crap. The behavior will be the same as it is on iPads, which have had USB-C for 5 years.
- skavi 3y agoto be fair, not even all iPads with USB-C have the same behavior. (The fancier Pros are Thunderbolt/USB 4).
- Gigachad 3y agoThey all support base level USB. Thunderbolt is an additional featureset. It's not like Apple is doing anything unusual or proprietary here.
- sfmike 3y agohow do you know?
- ShadowBanThis01 3y agoOh, they will. Apple will cripple the port with some BS excuse about "security."
- postmodest 3y agoI can only assume you pick up the USB sticks that litter your office parking lot and plug them in? ...apples USB security already works on the iPad, and only allows charging until you authorize the device. And if you know anything about this stuff, that's better than other vendors.
- kstenerud 3y agoI know something about this stuff, and Android does the same: charging only until you authorize the connected device.
- ShadowBanThis01 3y agoI seriously have no idea what you're talking about. I'm talking about Apple denying developers access to the USB port, the way they always have with the Lightning port and the iPod port before it. They've even crippled Bluetooth.
- musicale 3y ago> Finally Besides the fact that USB-C didn't exist at the time, I can't see any reason for Apple developing Lightning in the first place. ;-)
- 65a 3y agoUSB-C has existed for almost a decade, ~2014.
- IshKebab 3y agoLightning has existed for over a decade, since 2012.
- musicale 3y agoIndeed. Apple used the 30-pin dock connector for ~10 years and followed it up with Lightning for another ~10 years. USB-C came after lightning, and as I understand it Apple staff participated in the design and standardization process, being concerned with things like making the connector symmetric (like lightning) and being firm enough to not fall out but weak enough to yank out without sending your laptop crashing to the floor, and supporting high data rates/thunderbolt as well as high-power/fast charging. My personal pet peeve with lightning is that the power pins seem to burn out after a while.
- jmye 3y agoNow I can finally throw away all of those perfectly usable lightning cables and buy a horde of new USB-C cables that do absolutely nothing to improve my experience. Thanks for that, EU.
- wsve 3y ago??? Using a standardized cable that you'll always be able to find at a friend's place that also works with basically all modern devices doesn't improve your user experience?
- falsebeliefs 3y ago[dead]
- jmye 3y agoWhy would I find a cable at a friends house? I charge my phone at home, at night. With one of the cables that also work with my earphones and tablet.
- jdlshore 3y agoSome people have sexy friends that invite them to stay the night. Some people stay with family. Some people use their phones a lot and need to charge away from home. Some people have worn out batteries that don’t hold much charge.
- wpm 3y agoI carry an external battery and a cable when I know I’m gonna be gone long enough that my phone dying is a remote possibility.
- IshKebab 3y agoI don't think anybody is saying that there are no people without friends, or people that have weird cable/battery obsessions. They're just a small minority so it doesn't make sense to make laws cater to just them.
- thadk 3y agoA friend got a new high end 2019 Samsung phone. The week it came, we were at the beach. I offered my USB battery. They used a USB-C to USB-C charge cable to connect it. They passed the phone-and-battery to me and I grabbed it by the cable , as I would with a lightning cable. The USB-C detached from the phone and the phone fell 3.5 feet onto the rocky sand. It immediately broke the rear glass. After that experience, I'm still skeptical if the friction available in the USB-C socket is up to the task of day-to-day phone use (vs lightning). Among other challenges, Apple must have been struggling with this all along.
- 90ne1 3y agoAs someone who hasn't owned a mobile apple device since 2012 or so (my ipod touch still had the old wide port that predates thunderbolt), my expectation of friction for a cable is essentially just that it requires more force to remove than you would normally exert by moving the phone itself. This sounds snarky but I'm genuinely interested in the different perspective - is it a normal thing to hang your iphone off the cable to move it around?
- thadk 3y agoThank you for recognizing the perspective: holy downvotes! Anyway, the lightning cable design did/does allow it so people probably are used to doing it somewhat e.g. in bed. It was the one upside of lightning IMO. Don't get me wrong: I do welcome USB-C but I hope Apple warns people or begins to make the rear glass out of the stronger material of the front glass if they haven't already.
- tcrenshaw 3y agoJust don't grab things by the cable?
- mc32 3y agoin this case yes; however.... usb-c connections become unreliable over time. cables need jiggling and such. the protocol might be better, but the physical connector sucks. not as bad as d-sub connectors, but bad.
- falsebeliefs 3y ago[dead]
- londgine 3y agoI've had issues with my past 2 usb c phones. the female connector has a hidden male part in the phone. when you insert the cable incorrectly, it can damage that internal male part. it is much harder to replace that part then just getting a new cable. the lighting cable was a classic male connector to a classic female part
- deodar 3y agoThis is exactly right. Lightning is more resilient to damage. Lightning also puts the fragile part on the charger side and not in the device. Two of my USB-C devices developed loose connections after a year or so that replacing the charger wouldn't solve, a camera and a Windows laptop.
- pkulak 3y agoWait, do you have those reversed? Lightning cables have zero moving parts. The clips and other bits and bobs are in the phone. USBC is reversed, so that, with USBC, most failures mean replacing the cable, not the phone.
- londgine 3y agoLook inside the USB c port. Do you see a little bar sticking out, that is the breakable part
- wapeety 3y agoThey have been "forced" by EU (yay, fxck non standard connectors) but in the article seems like Apple made this choice to "upgrade" the functionalities of their products...
- musicale 3y agoI have four USB C ports on my 2016 MacBook Pro, which also charges via USB C. Hasn't the iPad Pro also used USB C since 2018? I think the iPhone and a few accessories like keyboards and trackpads are the last gasp of Lightning (which admittedly was a pretty effective replacement for the 30-pin dock connector that Apple used from 2003-2012.) Though personally I'm surprised that Apple didn't decide to dodge the EU ruling by welding a USB C dongle to every EU iPhone. ;-)
- aitchnyu 3y agoI've been envying iPhone users for the tons of lightning cables for headphones and IEMs. Hope the new generation USB C cables expands the options for Android users.
- mensetmanusman 3y agoWe will finally learn which is more rugged, lightning or usbc. The female lighting is so easy to clean from sand and lint.
- GoToRO 3y agoIt's funny how people adapt to bad design: usbc you don't have to clean. You can say it's "uncleanable" or that it is properly designed. My experience was that lighting is a bit loose and the dimensions are a bit too big so it collects dirt and the you have to clean it. I have not experience this with usbc on multiple different devices.
- tibbydudeza 3y agoThank you EU - those Lightning cables are so overpiced and rather fragile.
- pcdoodle 3y agoCool, can we open up a virtual serial connection to an arduino without buying a mifi chip?