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It baffles me that motorcycles are legal in jurisdictions that require seat belts in cars.
by mcculley 3y ago
It baffles me that motorcycles are legal in jurisdictions that require seat belts in cars.
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- figassis 3y agoIt’s probably more dangerous for you not to ditch your bike than it is to stay on it when collision is eminent? I can’t confirm this though, but most times I’ve seen an experienced person fall off a bike, they don’t stay on it.
- consumer451 3y agoI can't tell if this is a serious comment or not. If it is genuine, did you mean motorcycles without helmet enforcement?
- mcculley 3y agoI am seriously baffled. I live in Florida, where motorcyclists are allowed to go unhelmeted while car drivers are required to wear seat belts.
- consumer451 3y ago> Donorcycles: Motorcycle Helmet Laws and the Supply of Organ Donors https://www.jstor.org/stable/10.1086/661256 https://www.jstor.org/stable/10.1086/661256
- runarberg 3y agoMost jurisdictions require motorcycle riders to wear pretty through safety gear, such as a helmet and protective clothing.
- mcculley 3y agoI live in Florida, where motorcycle riders are not required to wear helmets while those riding in cars are required to wear seat belts.
- runarberg 3y agoI live in Washington state and all motorcycle riders are required to wear a helmet, just like all motorcycle riders in California, DC and 16 other US states, as well as motorcycle riders in Canada, Mexico, Australia, New Zealand, all of Europe, etc. Like I said: Most jurisdictions require motorcycle riders to wear pretty through safety gear, such as a helmet and protective clothing.
- mcculley 3y agoMotorcycle safety gear is great for keeping the corpse in one package. I don’t see how it does anything to keep the rider from being ejected from the vehicle. It baffles me that we are very paternal about drivers of cars and allow motorcycle riders on the same roads.
- runarberg 3y agoYou know this isn’t true. They do tests on this gear (particularly the helmets), and they are required to pass a number of these tests and fulfill a certain standard. If this gear provided no additional safety, then these tests would show it. This is unless you believe the tests don’t really reflect reality, but then you are objecting science accepted by several regulatory bodies. You’ll have to give me more evidence than your word against decades of experiments and expert opinions.
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- chrisco255 3y agoWell this demonstrates the cognitive dissonance of our modern political system. On the one hand we have to accept that motorcycles are both inherently very deadly and accept the legality of their use. Not only that but in most jurisdictions it's legal to ride without a helmet. On the other hand, seat belt fines are perfectly acceptable and only anarchist weirdos would be opposed to them. We also have to be mad at cops for stopping people and questioning them, event though that is the only way to enforce seat belt laws.
- runarberg 3y agoI think the US is kind of unique when it comes to motorcycle safety laws (or rather the lack of them) and still 18 states + DC require helmets for all riders. Most states have some age requirements, and only three states have no helmet laws for motorcycles. Every country in Europe requires a helmet, so does Canada and Mexico.
- IshKebab 3y agoWhy? Safety isn't generally about achieving an absolute probability of death. Does it baffle you that human space flight exists in a country that requires wet floor signs?
- mcculley 3y agoThe spaceflight/floor example does not baffle me at all. It is my responsibility to put up a wet floor sign to keep from harming others. When I am walking near a wet floor, I expect the owner of the floor to limit risk and liability for me and others walking on the floor. While I always wear a seat belt and will not even move my car without ensuring that my passengers are wearing their seat belts, I don't feel I should tell other drivers what to do inside their cars. I live in Florida, where motorcycle riders are not required to wear helmets while those riding in cars are required to wear seat belts. It is silly.
- IshKebab 3y agoYeah the helmets thing is very silly. Think about car insurance though.