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Pirate site not impressed by Global DNS blocking order

187 points by gslin 3y ago

rolph 3y ago
quad9 should be blocking certain IPs in germany as well. such as the German branch of Sony Music. Sony uploads pirate torrents to the web, thus must be blocked.
thefurdrake 3y ago
The harder Sony screams, the better things are going in general. This effort was pathetic and ineffective, just like every attempt Sony has made to combat piracy. If only they spent all that effort and money improving the user experience when accessing their products instead of something doomed to failure.
- ecf 3y ago
  it’s entertaining to watch Sony throw these tantrums after one of their prime complaints with the Activision + Microsoft merger was how it might give Microsoft exclusivity for CoD while forgetting how much they love exclusivity for Playstation titles.
  - jacquesm 3y ago
    It isn't called 'Sony Entertainment' for nothing.
  - robertlagrant 3y ago
    The problem is Microsoft has leverage in other areas. I understand Sony's nervousness.
    - JumpinJack_Cash 3y ago
      Microsoft is the only company allowing piracy and it has done nothing but good for them ever since they implemented that strategy in 1995. They compute how much the piracy costs them and then turn around and bill it to the big clients such as the Fortune 500 companies which are forced to get original licenses for Windows and Office.
      - ravenstine 3y ago
        Say what you want about Microsoft, but they knew the importance of getting their products into as many people's hands as possible, even if it meant accepting that some of them were going to steal it. On the other hand, Sony's appeal to consumers has greatly diminished because they focused more on protectionism than making their products a household name. Sure, they have the Playstation, but come on. Maybe they should go back to making movies that were actually good.
    - ecf 3y ago
      On the flip side, Microsoft might be nervous that Sony can leverage other areas, like their film division, to make a game they can’t compete with.
      - robertlagrant 3y ago
        Then Microsoft has never seen a movie tie in of a game, or played a game of a movie.
  - numpad0 3y ago
    Sony's gaming division(SCE) having moved to San Mateo in 2016 was a mistake. They just lost the magic.
codetrotter 3y ago
This is feels like the Barbara Streisand Effect in action. I had never heard about this Canna Power piracy website before. Probably a lot of other people haven’t either. But now, when Sony and their friends made this DNS block happen, media coverage has made more of us hear about the Canna Power piracy website.
- kwanbix 3y ago
  Exactly my thoughts.
- y-c-o-m-b 3y ago
  I have been sailing the dark waters for everything - movies, tv shows, books, games, music, etc - since before the new millennium and I can tell you I've never heard of Canna Power until today. I usually get my content successfully off of the larger public torrent sites, so I guess there's no need, but it's good to have another bookmark in my arsenal! Definitely the Streisand Effect here.
  - dizhn 3y ago
    It seems to primarily cater to a German speaking audience. That's probably why it isn't more well known. I'd never heard of it either.
    - alternatetwo 3y ago
      I'm German and I've known of it 10 years ago ... and 10 years ago it looked like a site from 20 years ago. I didn't know it still existed either.
      - slim 3y ago
        I'm not german and I had the same experience. it's the guys who've been obsoleted by napster... not.
- alpaca128 3y ago
  I heard of it ages ago, but it was a terrible experience (constantly opened new browser windows with ads etc) compared to torrents and by the time I actually got interested in music the industry had come up with convenient legal means to buy it. Didn't know that site is still alive though.
_8j50 3y ago
Firefox should natively support OpenNIC and other alternative DNS providers: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alternative_DNS_root https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alternative_DNS_root This will help Mozilla gain marketshare by being the goto browser for anyone wanting to access non-mainstream sites. But I admit, that also makes firefox hostile to corporate environments. If only firefox obeyed windows system/gpo/registry settings like chrome. I have never seen a non-tech company even permit firefox in their IT policy for these and other reasons anyways. If they really are for privacy for individuals, this is the way! It would also be ideal if alternative root systems supported DoH well. But that's only half the problem, discovering a list or resolvers is a big pain because those can also be blocked. My suggestion is for willing sites to frequently update their SRV records with new/current list of authoritative root IPs that support DoH. Supporting mainstream sites can also do that, so when you visit these sites you have the latest root list, and if that list is dynamic enough (have static root IPs but make them reachable with IPs that change all the time) blocking the system becomes a whack-a-mole and the difficulty is set by network size and how many new root resolver's can be added (DHT over https might help too).
- nobody9999 3y ago
  >But I admit, that also makes firefox hostile to corporate environments. If only firefox obeyed windows system/gpo/registry settings like chrome. I have never seen a non-tech company even permit firefox in their IT policy for these and other reasons anyways. Perhaps I'm missing your point, but Firefox does (and I use it in my own AD forest) provide Group Policy[0] management support. [0] https://support.mozilla.org/en-US/kb/customizing-firefox-using-group-policy-windows# https://support.mozilla.org/en-US/kb/customizing-firefox-usi...
  - _8j50 3y ago
    Firefox requires special config but Chrome uses a lot of the same settings/policies set for IE and now Edge. But this isn't my area, mostly repeating what I've been told.it also lacks the equivalent of chrome enterprise telemetry/management. But pleae correct me if I am wrong there.
derefr 3y ago
Question: why are torrent sites not generally run as a Tor hidden-site backend (that can therefore be accessed through any existing Tor public-web gateway, rather than needing to set up its own proxies) plus an IPFS-hosted SPA frontend (that can therefore rely on any IPFS web gateway, and can then point as many arbitrary human-readable DNSLink names at that IPFS CID as it wishes)? Is it just because the web piracy community predates these technologies?
- CodesInChaos 3y ago
  I'm pretty sure sure pirate-bay is an onion site exposed via a cloudflare gateway. You can use the onion service directly (and presumably through whichever gateway you want).
  - plagiarist 3y ago
    Cloudflare can work over TOR? I'm only familiar with the services they offer opening a tunnel across regular internet.
    - stavros 3y ago
      Yes it can, they have support for terminating TOR so you don't go over the public internet.
- charcircuit 3y ago
  To be more accessible and because they don't have to.
- stevefan1999 3y ago
  Because it was veeeeeeeeery slow to me. As someone in East Asia, you are lucky if you can load a hidden service under 10 seconds. First we should briefly talk about how hidden services work. You have a very long address encoding the portions of a HS public key, which is stored in a special directory (HSDir), and due to the P2P nature of Tor, that basically becomes a DHT/Torrent Tracker which draws parallel to a DNS service. Then you initiate a rendezvous request in HSDir to request a contact with the hidden service. The hidden service noticed the HSDir updated, then arranges a Tor circuit (of arbitrary length) and then write back to HSDir to tell the requesters to contact via that new circuit which this information will ultimately be signed with the hidden service's private key as a proof of identity so MITM is impossible (like bootleg TLS, or a mock PKI actually) As you noticed there would be at least three user circuits involved: the hidden service to Tor itself, the Tor end user, and the hidden service relay circuits (I would like to call that a transit tunnel, the middleman). The more the circuits and relays in between, the more likely your data will fly around the world, and too many circuits is the intrinsic reason why hidden services are very slow. Recall that each circuit is a linked list and to decrypt the data cells you have to wait for the "pipe" to flow back and forth serially. A to B to C, and C to B to A on back. Due to this recursive relation, no relay preemption is allowed. Keep in mind the real torspec is very complicated (that took me a few days) and I tried to make a gist for you, and in reality this may not be accurate up to date. Adding insults to injury, the vast majority of Tor relays are dominantly located in US and EU, and there are barely any Asian Tor operators like me, let alone exit node operators. This caused a serious "geofragmentation"/"geopartition" where one group of people have degraded services over the others. Fortunately, if your sites are mostly static or deterministic without any serverside dynamic and fancy UI (cough cough PHP and Ruby), given enough patient I would still got what I want. Just that it would have took it for me to be longer than others. That is why I think SPA and PWA, both client-side oriented application on such a low rate network like Tor hidden service, and abstracting server interaction as low overhead APIs such as gRPC and ttrpc, would be very useful as I was experimenting it before, but most people uses Tor Browser, they would likely be disabling JS with NoScript for...security reasons. They are really afraid there will be 0days in the JS engine that would pop them a dropper. There are couple of heap spraying 0days in V8 but so far Greasemonkey is fine...
pmontra 3y ago
Isn't everything on YouTube for free? Then downloading is as simple as any software that extracts audio tracks from a YT video.
- brightlancer 3y ago
  Youtube serves the audio and video separately; yt-dlp (the successor to youtube-dl) can download only the audio part, so there isn't any extraction necessary. Honestly, I don't understand "piracy" much anymore -- almost everything folks want is legally available on a streaming service for cheap or no-charge. If something has been censored or banned (or the owner refuses to sell it anymore), then that's a different story, but legal services are cheap and easy now.
  - Larrikin 3y ago
    Streaming services WERE cheap and easy. Now all the content providers are starting their own crappy streaming services and you end up paying more than you would for cable, when pretty much everything they offer used to be available through one or two services tops. I expect piracy to rise until there is a Spotify of TV/movies
  - jorams 3y ago
    > I don't understand "piracy" much anymore For music I agree for the most part. Tons of music is both available on streaming services, and for sale as a DRM-free download. The rest of the entertainment industry hasn't figured that last part out yet, unfortunately.
    - folmar 3y ago
      "Piracy" is still a thing for classical music - if you look for a specific performance of a piece you'd often find that it is not only not available online, but also permanently out of stock in physical formats since 1998.
  - raun1 3y ago
    > almost everything folks want is legally available on a streaming service for cheap or no-charge The majority of TV shows and movies that I watch are unavailable on streaming services. I know there's some more specialty streaming services for film these days, but besides that, it seems like its mostly well-known classics, anything mainstream from the past 20 years, or new releases that are available. I solely credit piracy for enabling my appreciation of film and TV. I was never a big fan of either until I got access to a huge catalog and started watching classics that are not popular enough for streaming services to pickup.
jrm4 3y ago
When I think of the historical development of the internet, events like this and the early recognition of "net neutrality" makes me grateful for the bullets we did dodge. It's clear that we need to do some things better re: DNS, but this could have gone sideways so much earlier.
ransackdev 3y ago
I don’t know this case or the site, I’m only commenting on this because, shouldn’t we be very concerned that anything can be silenced, globally, online? Where does it stop if we do it? Who gets the say? Who watches them? You see what I’m getting at? Google started self censoring “Russian propaganda” and everyone was so distracted with the war itself that nobody seemed to take notice of what gears that type of thing set in motion. Sure, they’ve probably been doing stuff like that the whole time, but it was the first I’d ever seen them announce they were altering results publicly and giving us things they deem acceptable. We need to wake up
- mdekkers 3y ago
  > Google started self censoring “Russian propaganda” and everyone was so distracted with the war itself that nobody seemed to take notice of what gears that type of thing set in motion. I recently found out that all of Russia Today is banned and blocked throughout the EU, and whilst I appreciate it’s pure propaganda, I don’t appreciate being told what I can and cannot read/watch/hear. It’s entirely against everything I was told to believe we stood for, and I find it deeply offensive ans disturbing.
  - sgift 3y ago
    Do you mean rt.com? I just accessed that cesspool and Germany is part of the EU, so .. nope. Not banned.
    - orangepurple 3y ago
      Banned in NL it gives an HTHS error NET::ERR_CERT_AUTHORITY_INVALID the certificate common name in the attack is advice.upc.biz
      - vlabakje90 3y ago
        It's not banned in NL, I can access it just fine.
yankput 3y ago
I don’t understand why they go on DNS level. The web is hosted somewhere, the actual files are hosted somewhere (on a different site), yet they don’t go after either of these actual websites but after a DNS resolver? That’s just weird. On the other hand my country now DNS-blocks Russia Today so I guess it’s just the minimal viable block
- folmar 3y ago
  The DNS provider has some German presence, and the site and its hosting don't. The serving of torrent magnet links alone is not illegal in most Europe.
  - yankput 3y ago
    Those are not actually magnet links, they are sharing it on one of these file sharing services ala rapidshare/megaupload of old days
- str3wer 3y ago
  well good luck going after a website that is probably hosted in an offshore country where piracy is legal and they won't even bother to answer to you. it's easy and enough effective to just block it dns level, most people outside here don't even know what dns is anyway so they won't bother finding a way around it
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Phelinofist 3y ago
I remember CannaPower from my first steps with piracy (also: eMule/eDonkey, KAZAA, BearShare, LimeWire). Good to know they are still operating.
ur-whale 3y ago
DNS is the _one_ thing that needs to be based on bitcoin type tech so as to forever escape any attempt at centralized control. Also, being able as an end user to easily choose where you get your name resolution from is essential. The whole idea of root DNS servers is utterly broken.
- franczesko 3y ago
  THIS
- null0pointer 3y ago
  I don’t understand why ENS doesn’t support normal record types (A, AAAA, etc.) Support for these was in the original design for ENS. I hope we see more support for alternative roots in the future. Brave browser, which is already fairly crypto-friendly, could add an ENS resolver for example. Maybe this is something someone could build as a browser extension?
2-718-281-828 3y ago
this site is the most cyberpunk i've seen in quite a while. never heard about it. but i'm surprised the sharing isn't done via torrenting but via some commercial shareplace.org website where you pay with paypal - seems a bit dangerous in case they go bust and user data gets confiscated. also, not sure what the appeal is given that you get almost anything on spotify.
FloatArtifact 3y ago
Is there anything lower than the DNS to block? Blocking DNS resolutions seems to be a very slippery slope.
FreshStart 3y ago
The actual nuke stayed in the silo. Privacy subversion + drm. If you can scan anybodies phone or pc and can categorize the contenting pirated and not pirated. Pirated content, is in theory one right holder lawsuit away from being pure profit. Thus such a scan result could be placed in the books as a sellable asset. But going for these assets would kill the privacy violation market forever..

187 points by gslin 3y ago

quad9 should be blocking certain IPs in germany as well. such as the German branch of Sony Music. Sony uploads pirate torrents to the web, thus must be blocked.

thefurdrake 3y ago

The harder Sony screams, the better things are going in general. This effort was pathetic and ineffective, just like every attempt Sony has made to combat piracy. If only they spent all that effort and money improving the user experience when accessing their products instead of something doomed to failure.

ecf 3y ago
it’s entertaining to watch Sony throw these tantrums after one of their prime complaints with the Activision + Microsoft merger was how it might give Microsoft exclusivity for CoD while forgetting how much they love exclusivity for Playstation titles.
- jacquesm 3y ago
  It isn't called 'Sony Entertainment' for nothing.
- robertlagrant 3y ago
  The problem is Microsoft has leverage in other areas. I understand Sony's nervousness.
  - JumpinJack_Cash 3y ago
    Microsoft is the only company allowing piracy and it has done nothing but good for them ever since they implemented that strategy in 1995. They compute how much the piracy costs them and then turn around and bill it to the big clients such as the Fortune 500 companies which are forced to get original licenses for Windows and Office.
    - ravenstine 3y ago
      Say what you want about Microsoft, but they knew the importance of getting their products into as many people's hands as possible, even if it meant accepting that some of them were going to steal it. On the other hand, Sony's appeal to consumers has greatly diminished because they focused more on protectionism than making their products a household name. Sure, they have the Playstation, but come on. Maybe they should go back to making movies that were actually good.
  - ecf 3y ago
    On the flip side, Microsoft might be nervous that Sony can leverage other areas, like their film division, to make a game they can’t compete with.
    - robertlagrant 3y ago
      Then Microsoft has never seen a movie tie in of a game, or played a game of a movie.
- numpad0 3y ago
  Sony's gaming division(SCE) having moved to San Mateo in 2016 was a mistake. They just lost the magic.

codetrotter 3y ago

This is feels like the Barbara Streisand Effect in action. I had never heard about this Canna Power piracy website before. Probably a lot of other people haven’t either. But now, when Sony and their friends made this DNS block happen, media coverage has made more of us hear about the Canna Power piracy website.

kwanbix 3y ago
Exactly my thoughts.
y-c-o-m-b 3y ago
I have been sailing the dark waters for everything - movies, tv shows, books, games, music, etc - since before the new millennium and I can tell you I've never heard of Canna Power until today. I usually get my content successfully off of the larger public torrent sites, so I guess there's no need, but it's good to have another bookmark in my arsenal! Definitely the Streisand Effect here.
- dizhn 3y ago
  It seems to primarily cater to a German speaking audience. That's probably why it isn't more well known. I'd never heard of it either.
  - alternatetwo 3y ago
    I'm German and I've known of it 10 years ago ... and 10 years ago it looked like a site from 20 years ago. I didn't know it still existed either.
    - slim 3y ago
      I'm not german and I had the same experience. it's the guys who've been obsoleted by napster... not.
alpaca128 3y ago
I heard of it ages ago, but it was a terrible experience (constantly opened new browser windows with ads etc) compared to torrents and by the time I actually got interested in music the industry had come up with convenient legal means to buy it. Didn't know that site is still alive though.

_8j50 3y ago

Firefox should natively support OpenNIC and other alternative DNS providers: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alternative_DNS_root https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alternative_DNS_root This will help Mozilla gain marketshare by being the goto browser for anyone wanting to access non-mainstream sites. But I admit, that also makes firefox hostile to corporate environments. If only firefox obeyed windows system/gpo/registry settings like chrome. I have never seen a non-tech company even permit firefox in their IT policy for these and other reasons anyways. If they really are for privacy for individuals, this is the way! It would also be ideal if alternative root systems supported DoH well. But that's only half the problem, discovering a list or resolvers is a big pain because those can also be blocked. My suggestion is for willing sites to frequently update their SRV records with new/current list of authoritative root IPs that support DoH. Supporting mainstream sites can also do that, so when you visit these sites you have the latest root list, and if that list is dynamic enough (have static root IPs but make them reachable with IPs that change all the time) blocking the system becomes a whack-a-mole and the difficulty is set by network size and how many new root resolver's can be added (DHT over https might help too).

nobody9999 3y ago
>But I admit, that also makes firefox hostile to corporate environments. If only firefox obeyed windows system/gpo/registry settings like chrome. I have never seen a non-tech company even permit firefox in their IT policy for these and other reasons anyways. Perhaps I'm missing your point, but Firefox does (and I use it in my own AD forest) provide Group Policy[0] management support. [0] https://support.mozilla.org/en-US/kb/customizing-firefox-using-group-policy-windows# https://support.mozilla.org/en-US/kb/customizing-firefox-usi...
- _8j50 3y ago
  Firefox requires special config but Chrome uses a lot of the same settings/policies set for IE and now Edge. But this isn't my area, mostly repeating what I've been told.it also lacks the equivalent of chrome enterprise telemetry/management. But pleae correct me if I am wrong there.

derefr 3y ago

Question: why are torrent sites not generally run as a Tor hidden-site backend (that can therefore be accessed through any existing Tor public-web gateway, rather than needing to set up its own proxies) plus an IPFS-hosted SPA frontend (that can therefore rely on any IPFS web gateway, and can then point as many arbitrary human-readable DNSLink names at that IPFS CID as it wishes)? Is it just because the web piracy community predates these technologies?

CodesInChaos 3y ago
I'm pretty sure sure pirate-bay is an onion site exposed via a cloudflare gateway. You can use the onion service directly (and presumably through whichever gateway you want).
- plagiarist 3y ago
  Cloudflare can work over TOR? I'm only familiar with the services they offer opening a tunnel across regular internet.
  - stavros 3y ago
    Yes it can, they have support for terminating TOR so you don't go over the public internet.
charcircuit 3y ago
To be more accessible and because they don't have to.
stevefan1999 3y ago
Because it was veeeeeeeeery slow to me. As someone in East Asia, you are lucky if you can load a hidden service under 10 seconds. First we should briefly talk about how hidden services work. You have a very long address encoding the portions of a HS public key, which is stored in a special directory (HSDir), and due to the P2P nature of Tor, that basically becomes a DHT/Torrent Tracker which draws parallel to a DNS service. Then you initiate a rendezvous request in HSDir to request a contact with the hidden service. The hidden service noticed the HSDir updated, then arranges a Tor circuit (of arbitrary length) and then write back to HSDir to tell the requesters to contact via that new circuit which this information will ultimately be signed with the hidden service's private key as a proof of identity so MITM is impossible (like bootleg TLS, or a mock PKI actually) As you noticed there would be at least three user circuits involved: the hidden service to Tor itself, the Tor end user, and the hidden service relay circuits (I would like to call that a transit tunnel, the middleman). The more the circuits and relays in between, the more likely your data will fly around the world, and too many circuits is the intrinsic reason why hidden services are very slow. Recall that each circuit is a linked list and to decrypt the data cells you have to wait for the "pipe" to flow back and forth serially. A to B to C, and C to B to A on back. Due to this recursive relation, no relay preemption is allowed. Keep in mind the real torspec is very complicated (that took me a few days) and I tried to make a gist for you, and in reality this may not be accurate up to date. Adding insults to injury, the vast majority of Tor relays are dominantly located in US and EU, and there are barely any Asian Tor operators like me, let alone exit node operators. This caused a serious "geofragmentation"/"geopartition" where one group of people have degraded services over the others. Fortunately, if your sites are mostly static or deterministic without any serverside dynamic and fancy UI (cough cough PHP and Ruby), given enough patient I would still got what I want. Just that it would have took it for me to be longer than others. That is why I think SPA and PWA, both client-side oriented application on such a low rate network like Tor hidden service, and abstracting server interaction as low overhead APIs such as gRPC and ttrpc, would be very useful as I was experimenting it before, but most people uses Tor Browser, they would likely be disabling JS with NoScript for...security reasons. They are really afraid there will be 0days in the JS engine that would pop them a dropper. There are couple of heap spraying 0days in V8 but so far Greasemonkey is fine...

pmontra 3y ago

Isn't everything on YouTube for free? Then downloading is as simple as any software that extracts audio tracks from a YT video.

brightlancer 3y ago
Youtube serves the audio and video separately; yt-dlp (the successor to youtube-dl) can download only the audio part, so there isn't any extraction necessary. Honestly, I don't understand "piracy" much anymore -- almost everything folks want is legally available on a streaming service for cheap or no-charge. If something has been censored or banned (or the owner refuses to sell it anymore), then that's a different story, but legal services are cheap and easy now.
- Larrikin 3y ago
  Streaming services WERE cheap and easy. Now all the content providers are starting their own crappy streaming services and you end up paying more than you would for cable, when pretty much everything they offer used to be available through one or two services tops. I expect piracy to rise until there is a Spotify of TV/movies
- jorams 3y ago
  > I don't understand "piracy" much anymore For music I agree for the most part. Tons of music is both available on streaming services, and for sale as a DRM-free download. The rest of the entertainment industry hasn't figured that last part out yet, unfortunately.
  - folmar 3y ago
    "Piracy" is still a thing for classical music - if you look for a specific performance of a piece you'd often find that it is not only not available online, but also permanently out of stock in physical formats since 1998.
- raun1 3y ago
  > almost everything folks want is legally available on a streaming service for cheap or no-charge The majority of TV shows and movies that I watch are unavailable on streaming services. I know there's some more specialty streaming services for film these days, but besides that, it seems like its mostly well-known classics, anything mainstream from the past 20 years, or new releases that are available. I solely credit piracy for enabling my appreciation of film and TV. I was never a big fan of either until I got access to a huge catalog and started watching classics that are not popular enough for streaming services to pickup.

jrm4 3y ago

When I think of the historical development of the internet, events like this and the early recognition of "net neutrality" makes me grateful for the bullets we did dodge. It's clear that we need to do some things better re: DNS, but this could have gone sideways so much earlier.

ransackdev 3y ago

I don’t know this case or the site, I’m only commenting on this because, shouldn’t we be very concerned that anything can be silenced, globally, online? Where does it stop if we do it? Who gets the say? Who watches them? You see what I’m getting at? Google started self censoring “Russian propaganda” and everyone was so distracted with the war itself that nobody seemed to take notice of what gears that type of thing set in motion. Sure, they’ve probably been doing stuff like that the whole time, but it was the first I’d ever seen them announce they were altering results publicly and giving us things they deem acceptable. We need to wake up

mdekkers 3y ago
> Google started self censoring “Russian propaganda” and everyone was so distracted with the war itself that nobody seemed to take notice of what gears that type of thing set in motion. I recently found out that all of Russia Today is banned and blocked throughout the EU, and whilst I appreciate it’s pure propaganda, I don’t appreciate being told what I can and cannot read/watch/hear. It’s entirely against everything I was told to believe we stood for, and I find it deeply offensive ans disturbing.
- sgift 3y ago
  Do you mean rt.com? I just accessed that cesspool and Germany is part of the EU, so .. nope. Not banned.
  - orangepurple 3y ago
    Banned in NL it gives an HTHS error NET::ERR_CERT_AUTHORITY_INVALID the certificate common name in the attack is advice.upc.biz
    - vlabakje90 3y ago
      It's not banned in NL, I can access it just fine.

yankput 3y ago

I don’t understand why they go on DNS level. The web is hosted somewhere, the actual files are hosted somewhere (on a different site), yet they don’t go after either of these actual websites but after a DNS resolver? That’s just weird. On the other hand my country now DNS-blocks Russia Today so I guess it’s just the minimal viable block

folmar 3y ago
The DNS provider has some German presence, and the site and its hosting don't. The serving of torrent magnet links alone is not illegal in most Europe.
- yankput 3y ago
  Those are not actually magnet links, they are sharing it on one of these file sharing services ala rapidshare/megaupload of old days
str3wer 3y ago
well good luck going after a website that is probably hosted in an offshore country where piracy is legal and they won't even bother to answer to you. it's easy and enough effective to just block it dns level, most people outside here don't even know what dns is anyway so they won't bother finding a way around it

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Phelinofist 3y ago

I remember CannaPower from my first steps with piracy (also: eMule/eDonkey, KAZAA, BearShare, LimeWire). Good to know they are still operating.

ur-whale 3y ago

DNS is the _one_ thing that needs to be based on bitcoin type tech so as to forever escape any attempt at centralized control. Also, being able as an end user to easily choose where you get your name resolution from is essential. The whole idea of root DNS servers is utterly broken.

franczesko 3y ago
THIS
null0pointer 3y ago
I don’t understand why ENS doesn’t support normal record types (A, AAAA, etc.) Support for these was in the original design for ENS. I hope we see more support for alternative roots in the future. Brave browser, which is already fairly crypto-friendly, could add an ENS resolver for example. Maybe this is something someone could build as a browser extension?

2-718-281-828 3y ago

this site is the most cyberpunk i've seen in quite a while. never heard about it. but i'm surprised the sharing isn't done via torrenting but via some commercial shareplace.org website where you pay with paypal - seems a bit dangerous in case they go bust and user data gets confiscated. also, not sure what the appeal is given that you get almost anything on spotify.

FloatArtifact 3y ago

Is there anything lower than the DNS to block? Blocking DNS resolutions seems to be a very slippery slope.

FreshStart 3y ago

The actual nuke stayed in the silo. Privacy subversion + drm. If you can scan anybodies phone or pc and can categorize the contenting pirated and not pirated. Pirated content, is in theory one right holder lawsuit away from being pure profit. Thus such a scan result could be placed in the books as a sellable asset. But going for these assets would kill the privacy violation market forever..