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Because it my mind at least, it’s not “the Mail app the product” but “the Mail app the activity”. It’s where you’d go to deal with email stuff (same applies to
by isodev 3y ago
Because it my mind at least, it’s not “the Mail app the product” but “the Mail app the activity”. It’s where you’d go to deal with email stuff (same applies to Calendar, Notes etc). I also use a different email client which comes with its own settings and that’s perfect, but to configure aspects of macOS I would first check the system provided app.
- darreninthenet 3y agoAlthough this is a pain on the Mac because you have to create a dummy email account on the Mail app to be able to access any of the Mail apps settings
- isodev 3y agoI think it opens your iCloud email by default.
- darreninthenet 3y agoI don't have iCloud email, never have
- pxc 3y agoPeople who are enamored of Apple's commitment to privacy on the one hand and esteemed UX on the other should really try using a Mac without an Apple account for a while.
- detourdog 3y agoI don't understand this at all. I just went to systems settings. I searched for mai... I see the top hit is internet accounts. No other option internet account does describe mail so I click it. Up pops a bunch of choices as well as an add account button... What is the problem?
- Liquid_Fire 3y agoThe problem is not adding an account, but the fact that you can't open Mail to change the default email client without first configuring an email account in Mail... which you're not going to use because you were trying to switch to a different client in the first place!
- detourdog 3y ago* To change settings in Mail, you must first have added an email account in Mail. If you don't want to do that, open the other email app that you want to use, then check its settings for a similar way to set the default email reader. This is at the bottom of this page. I still don't understand the problem. https://support.apple.com/en-us/HT201607 https://support.apple.com/en-us/HT201607
- allarm 3y agoThe problem has been explained very clearly in multiple comments, from different perspectives. You should try really really hard to not understand it at this point.
- detourdog 3y agoI understand the issue now. I admit it took me longer than most people to understand. I hope you can admit that it is a very subtle issue. This is Apple babysitting their users. Apple needs to make sure that if their customer think that email is configured certain services are active. If an Apple customer has to make sure that each service is configured and it should be done by whatever email client the customer chooses. I disagree that the issue is severe. My assumption is that if one is setting up another email application the host operating system assuming they will provide the users of the alternative email client will also provide the mechanism for making it the default email client. That is not an unreasonable assumption for the host OS to make in my view. Email is a little different than browsers in at least 2 respects The biggest difference is that an established legal precedent that a host OS should provide a direct interface for selecting the default browser. The browser is also a single protocol application http:. The second is that an email client is multiple protocols. Do you want different default accounts depending if it's pop or imap? What about sending which accounts to do you to use and how. All of these options are in Mail.app and I have used many variations where default account might not cut it. I'm also willing to drop the whole thing because I bet at some point it won't be an issue if it is an issue.
- pixelatedindex 3y agoTo me this exemplifies the Mac way of doing things - to me if I want to change any setting that is system oriented or interacts with the system should go into System Preferences. Anything that tweaks how the app itself behaves should go under the Preferences of the app. But once you get used to the Apple way then you tend to not question these things as much.
- pxc 3y ago> if I want to change any setting that is system oriented or interacts with the system should go into System Preferences Right. It is not the place of some random 'app' to administer my fucking system. I never, ever want my web browser or text editor or any other app to nag me with some intrusive pop-up about making it the default (in general or for some specific file type). From my perspective, the whole 'the app should handle it' attitude is another perverse adaptation to Apple neglecting to build competent power user features (in this case an administrative interface for default application associations), like the slew of apps in the ecosystem trying desperately to hack in decent window management, audio stream management, middle click via trackpad (lmfao), key remapping, etc., etc. The whole culture of the OS and its userbase just takes it for granted that huge classes of functionality will and even should be implemented by various 'apps' leveraging otherwise invisible, sometimes undocumented, and always breakage-prone OS behaviors.
- CRConrad 3y ago> It is not the place of some random 'app' to administer my fucking system. I never, ever want my web browser or text editor or any other app to nag me with some intrusive pop-up about making it the default (in general or for some specific file type). Somewhat related: It's not the place of some random web site to administer my fucking system. I never, ever want any web site (looking at you, Google!) to nag me with some intrusive pop-up about installing their freaking browser just because I'm looking at their site.
- FireBeyond 3y agoDoes that apply to macOS wanting to make sure you want to use Chrome after you install it, and, 'just checking', not Safari?