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I think like many people, the first couple of paragraphs inspired me to see what else was published on the site for more “context” about the author’s point of v
by bpm140 3y ago
I think like many people, the first couple of paragraphs inspired me to see what else was published on the site for more “context” about the author’s point of views.
At this point, writing a good-faith rebuttal to the article seems unnecessary.
- EdwardDiego 3y agoWow, did the same as you, and eep... > The demographic groups involved likely have an average intellectual quotient (IQ) under 85, an aspect that's seldom discussed openly in France. What is the cost of silence?
- phkahler 3y agoIMHO this article doesn't belong on HN.
- tptacek 3y agoThere's a button for that!
- artemonster 3y agowhy cant i downvote the post itself? is there a karma requirement for that?
- tptacek 3y agoNo, you can't downvote posts, and if you use flags as a form of downvoting you may find your flags quietly defanged. In this case, though, I think you'd be on pretty firm ground.
- calderknight 3y agoConsider reading this: https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html > Comments should get more thoughtful and substantive, not less, as a topic gets more divisive. > Please don't post shallow dismissals, especially of other people's work. A good critical comment teaches us something. > Please don't use Hacker News for political or ideological battle. That tramples curiosity. > Please don't pick the most provocative thing in an article or post to complain about in the thread. Find something interesting to respond to instead.
- tptacek 3y agoI'm as familiar with the guidelines as anybody on this thread so far (and I'm at least one of the people who suggested the first guideline you cite), I agree with the parent post, and don't see any way in which is contravenes any of these. This is a case where the provenance of the article matters a great deal.
- 1123581321 3y agoCould someone explain? I’m unfamiliar with the publication. Asking sincerely.
- Arn_Thor 3y agoAt a glance it is defending its own definition of "great replacement" theory (i.e. it's a conspiracy by the left to cause the decline of the white population, but you know Aporia is legitimate and reasonable because they don't claim it's all orchestrated by the Jews--instead it's the "Elites"), lambasting diversity as some kind of "scam", and even espousing literal racism. Not even the dog whistling kind.
- sgift 3y agoAfter reading the comments here I first looked up the authors: https://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Bo_Winegard https://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Bo_Winegard (there's also one for the second author, his brother). And then I took a look at the headlines here: https://www.aporiamagazine.com/archive?sort=new https://www.aporiamagazine.com/archive?sort=new At least for me that speaks for itself and supports what is written in this thread.
- squarefoot 3y agoAs someone who had one psychiatrist and two psychologists in his family, and having been myself in (very effective) treatment years ago, every time I read nonsense like that I immediately smell malice, this also because the vast documentation I read about Scientology during the late 90s and early 2K, which for those living under a rock, are among the most prominent enemies of psychology and psychiatry. The above link are eye openers; this at first seems a rather different case from cult scammers, as the guy is rather a far right extremist with the same mindset of antivaxers and Q-anon conspiracy theorists, ie someone who should ask for treatment himself, but at the end of the day it's just another case of someone with mental troubles who hates professionals whose job is to cure those problems.
- porkbeer 3y ago[flagged]
- cubefox 3y agoYes. What is going on with people here?
- disgruntledphd2 3y agoI upvoted it mostly because it was a relatively well argued article about a subject I disagreed with. I think that it pushes far too hard on pyschotherapy and depression when the evidence suggests that pretty much all treatments for depression suck.
- cubefox 3y agoWell, it says in the beginning that criticism of depression medication is common, which is why they focus on psychotherapy.
- disgruntledphd2 3y agoSpeaking as someone with a PhD in psychology, criticism of therapy is probably more common (and longer going) than criticism of SSRIs.
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- slv77 3y agoThe article summary seems to be that an emotionally resilient person in a supportive community may not need therapy in response to an adverse emotional event. Studies and meta-analysis show that therapy is effective but it is possible that the effects are overstated. The author doesn’t suggest alternatives to therapy. Personally, it is possible that there are supportive communities where coping skills are widely taught at an early age and that those skills are better for complex trauma than those developed by therapists (e.g. EMDR) but I am pretty confident those types of communities are far from the norm.