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People don't fear this at all. They have their iphones, imessage, apple tv, apple pay. The only thing apple is missing is a social network (AFAIK they don't h

People don't fear this at all. They have their iphones, imessage, apple tv, apple pay. The only thing apple is missing is a social network (AFAIK they don't have one).

maaanu 3y ago
The market share of the iphone is about 20%. So I think your comparison falls short with the very first item. I am okay, to be totally vendor locked in the apple-ecosystem, because Androids market share is so much higher. If the iPhone fails to be a good product I will just switch. I am okay, to be totally vendor locked in gcp, because aws is a thing...
- ezfe 3y ago
  In the US, the country of origin for both iOS and Android, iPhone market share is closer to 60%
rurp 3y ago
Apple makes a big point of highlighting their privacy features and pushing back against some government requests for exactly this reason; to allay fears about consolidation and overreach. I doubt Tim Cook is a passionate believer in privacy as a human right, but it's effective messaging so he pushes it. Musk's approach is the polar opposite from Apple. A capricious and petulant owner who goes out of his way to appease racists and dictators is not someone most people are comfortable with handing a lot of control and information about their lives to.
- linuxftw 3y ago
  Apple is a corporation. They could be lead by an entirely new executive team tomorrow if that's what the shareholders want. I wouldn't do business with Musk personally, but I don't think most people view him the way you do. In any case, we're talking about normies are comfortable with. They don't really consider any of this stuff.
- edmundsauto 3y ago
  > I doubt Tim Cook is a passionate believer in privacy as a human right What makes you think this? Lots of tech people have this perspective, and lots of gay people understand this perspective at a very deep level (especially if older) Just curious why you think what you think.
  - NickC25 3y ago
    Tim Cook believes in all sorts of things....when he in the US/EU. When he's sucking up to China, all the morals and values he ingrained by growing up a gay man in the American deep South quickly and rather conveniently go right out the window.

People don't fear this at all. They have their iphones, imessage, apple tv, apple pay. The only thing apple is missing is a social network (AFAIK they don't have one).

maaanu 3y ago

The market share of the iphone is about 20%. So I think your comparison falls short with the very first item. I am okay, to be totally vendor locked in the apple-ecosystem, because Androids market share is so much higher. If the iPhone fails to be a good product I will just switch. I am okay, to be totally vendor locked in gcp, because aws is a thing...

ezfe 3y ago
In the US, the country of origin for both iOS and Android, iPhone market share is closer to 60%

rurp 3y ago

Apple makes a big point of highlighting their privacy features and pushing back against some government requests for exactly this reason; to allay fears about consolidation and overreach. I doubt Tim Cook is a passionate believer in privacy as a human right, but it's effective messaging so he pushes it. Musk's approach is the polar opposite from Apple. A capricious and petulant owner who goes out of his way to appease racists and dictators is not someone most people are comfortable with handing a lot of control and information about their lives to.

linuxftw 3y ago
Apple is a corporation. They could be lead by an entirely new executive team tomorrow if that's what the shareholders want. I wouldn't do business with Musk personally, but I don't think most people view him the way you do. In any case, we're talking about normies are comfortable with. They don't really consider any of this stuff.
edmundsauto 3y ago
> I doubt Tim Cook is a passionate believer in privacy as a human right What makes you think this? Lots of tech people have this perspective, and lots of gay people understand this perspective at a very deep level (especially if older) Just curious why you think what you think.
- NickC25 3y ago
  Tim Cook believes in all sorts of things....when he in the US/EU. When he's sucking up to China, all the morals and values he ingrained by growing up a gay man in the American deep South quickly and rather conveniently go right out the window.