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Although, i have never used them, you can explore railway.app. it is the closest to fly.io and never heard any bad things. I personally at the moment use digit

Although, i have never used them, you can explore railway.app. it is the closest to fly.io and never heard any bad things. I personally at the moment use digitalocean without any issues, but there's always the maintenance overhead of managing a server yourself.

Fire-Dragon-DoL 3y ago
I wish digitalocean offered decent pricing for spaces (s3). Unfortunately it starts at 5$, which is an enormous price for storing 70 small images, but s3 would greatly simplify my server management moving state entirely outside the server (managed database + managed object storage)
- bongobingo1 3y ago
  > price for storing 70 small images Do you have to use an object store in that case? Or does it have to be separate from whatever application instance?
  - Fire-Dragon-DoL 3y ago
    I don't have to use an object store, but it makes the cost of setting up a server more expensive if I use the filesystem, if I delete the instance, the data is gone. A volume kinda offset this, but it's way less portable and accessible only by one instance at a time The peace of mind of managed is nice, all I have to think about is running the app, without having to deal with making sure db and files don't get lost
    - Dylan16807 3y ago
      At that level I think I'd just put the images in the database.
      - Takennickname 3y ago
        In the git repo even
        Fire-Dragon-DoL 3y ago
        The images are supplied by the users, so that wouldn't be an option
      - Fire-Dragon-DoL 3y ago
        That's an option, but I want to keep things simple and the assumption is usually "filesystem" but weirdly most libraries assume S3 usage. I don't think I've seen native support for db-stored images in any of the libraries I use, which is sad but a reality.
        Dylan16807 3y ago
        Maybe not directly in libraries but there's a few programs to make a fuse filesystem backed by a database.
        bongobingo1 3y ago
        Ya cant just throw em at a blob type field/column?
- iampims 3y ago
  You could use Cloudflare R2, it's pretty cheap overall.
  - Fire-Dragon-DoL 3y ago
    I did not realize they have an s3 compatible service
solarkraft 3y ago
I've been using a Postgres DB on Railway's free plan (that is going away) and it was great. It did everything I wanted (excluding external access and PostGIS) for cents. The support community is nice. I didn't use it for much more, but my experience has been great. They deserve way more air time than they currently get.

Fire-Dragon-DoL 3y ago

I wish digitalocean offered decent pricing for spaces (s3). Unfortunately it starts at 5$, which is an enormous price for storing 70 small images, but s3 would greatly simplify my server management moving state entirely outside the server (managed database + managed object storage)

bongobingo1 3y ago
> price for storing 70 small images Do you have to use an object store in that case? Or does it have to be separate from whatever application instance?
- Fire-Dragon-DoL 3y ago
  I don't have to use an object store, but it makes the cost of setting up a server more expensive if I use the filesystem, if I delete the instance, the data is gone. A volume kinda offset this, but it's way less portable and accessible only by one instance at a time The peace of mind of managed is nice, all I have to think about is running the app, without having to deal with making sure db and files don't get lost
  - Dylan16807 3y ago
    At that level I think I'd just put the images in the database.
    - Takennickname 3y ago
      In the git repo even
      - Fire-Dragon-DoL 3y ago
        The images are supplied by the users, so that wouldn't be an option
    - Fire-Dragon-DoL 3y ago
      That's an option, but I want to keep things simple and the assumption is usually "filesystem" but weirdly most libraries assume S3 usage. I don't think I've seen native support for db-stored images in any of the libraries I use, which is sad but a reality.
      - Dylan16807 3y ago
        Maybe not directly in libraries but there's a few programs to make a fuse filesystem backed by a database.
      - bongobingo1 3y ago
        Ya cant just throw em at a blob type field/column?
iampims 3y ago
You could use Cloudflare R2, it's pretty cheap overall.
- Fire-Dragon-DoL 3y ago
  I did not realize they have an s3 compatible service

solarkraft 3y ago

I've been using a Postgres DB on Railway's free plan (that is going away) and it was great. It did everything I wanted (excluding external access and PostGIS) for cents. The support community is nice. I didn't use it for much more, but my experience has been great. They deserve way more air time than they currently get.