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Apple are never first, sometimes they are quite late, but when they do launch their version of a product it is polished and fixes many issues with all other imp
by samwillis 3y ago
Apple are never first, sometimes they are quite late, but when they do launch their version of a product it is polished and fixes many issues with all other implications.
I have no doubt that Apple are working on local LLMs and combining them with Siri, it's only a matter of time. I expect we will see something next year, probably tied to the next iteration of hardware - they do want to sell hardware after all.
Apple have indicated that are working on this stuff, subtly. They avoided saying "AI", instead going for "ML", "encoder/decoder models" and "transformer models". The spell check on the next iOS is based on a transformer model. It's packed with image models for extraction, lighting and image correction. iOS is littered with ML stuff, that have "Nural cores" in their silicone.
This stuff is coming from them, when it's ready.
What I expect they will launch with a "LLM Siri" will blow our minds, it will be an all encompassing personal assistant. It will have linkage of all our documents, email, messages, movements, browser history, all locally securely on our devises. Not in the cloud. It will be so close to appearing like AGI that some people will clams it is.
- FirmwareBurner 3y ago>Apple are never first, sometimes they are quite late, but when they do launch their version of a product it is polished Apple maps would have a laugh at that
- drevil-v2 3y agoApple Maps, as it is today, is so much better than Google Maps. The UI is way more polished than Google Maps. The Google UI looks like it is designed by committee - it is so ugly and dense. I find it really offensive. The Apple Maps has better directions for my city at least. The Google one re-directs me through side streets and weird turns into traffic crossing lanes at the last minute.
- baby 3y agoI agree, the only thing that's still better is google maps reviews for restaurants, just because of the sheer amount of users compared to yelp (worldwide). But I really dislike google maps reviews UI
- warning26 3y agoYou're getting downvoted but honestly I'd agree insofar as the UI. Google Maps is loaded with suggested content. What about lunch? Need a haircut? Check out these top rated places!! Would you recommend Google Maps to a friend or colleague? Apple Maps is like what Google Maps was years ago: a map and a search box.
- mhh__ 3y agoSometimes I really do want to find somewhere to eat lunch at though - i.e. Google maps minus some of the webshit is reasonably good at being a centrally dense place for all that informatjon
- balder1991 3y agoNowadays, when I want to screenshot the place in the lap, I use Apple’s. Google Maps has so much stuff that the actual map gets eclipsed.
- fomine3 3y agoAgree but GP's point is that the launch was terrible.
- DevKoala 3y agoYeah I remember that as their only misstep tbh. Today, Apple Maps is my go-to for California at least.
- nradov 3y agoThere have been other failed Apple products. Lisa. Newton. Macintosh Portable. iPhone 6. Etc. https://www.cnet.com/tech/mobile/apples-worst-failures-of-all-time-from-airpower-to-bendgate-to-the-newton/ https://www.cnet.com/tech/mobile/apples-worst-failures-of-al... No one gets product planning right 100%. The key is to recognize failures early and cut them off.
- wslh 3y agoThe key is to have enough cash that you know you will hit the nail. Microsoft is failing constantly, even launching several times different products for the same use case. It doesn't matter at that level.
- scarface_74 3y agoIt’s estimated that the iPhone 6 and 6 Plus sold over 225 million.
- Keyframe 3y agoYeah I remember that as their only misstep tbh. MobileMe was quite a big misstep too.
- callalex 3y agoWas it? They changed nothing when they rebranded from MobileMe to iCloud, and that is wildly popular.
- Keyframe 3y agoYeah it was, if you can't remember / weren't around at the time, it's widely documented https://www.macrumors.com/2011/05/07/steve-jobs-reaction-to-mobileme-launch-and-other-anecdotes/ https://www.macrumors.com/2011/05/07/steve-jobs-reaction-to-... ... https://www.businessinsider.com/ex-apple-employee-on-steve-jobs-mobileme-tirade-2013-4 https://www.businessinsider.com/ex-apple-employee-on-steve-j... ... https://www.wsj.com/articles/SB121685869764279343 https://www.wsj.com/articles/SB121685869764279343
- pazimzadeh 3y agonot the first computer with windowed UI not the first portable mp3 player not the first smartphone nor the first touchscreen phone not the first bluetooth headset not the first tablet computer not the first smartwatch not the first VR/AR headset
- smoldesu 3y agoMany of these were not "polished" at release either. - The Lisa was so expensive that it failed to find a market regardless of how visionary it was, ultimately making less of an impact than the Apple II. - The first iPod models were plagued with battery issues and had no meaningful way to replace them once it went bad (this extended into smaller models like the Nano). - The iPhone was notoriously gimped at launch and only barely delivered on it's promises, with the majority of features people know today being added in updates. - The first generation Airpods should be classified as instruments of sonic and physical abuse, not headphones. - The first generation iPad was depreciated almost immediately and got ~2 years total software support. To say nothing of their success, sure, but Apple clearly has their own honeymoon phases to work through.
- Keyframe 3y agoI thought it was common belief, well at least in my circle of friends, not to buy anything apple until there's third generation of it.
- fomine3 3y agoMostly agree but I don't know why you hate AirPods so much. AirPods was great from the beginning (in retrospect after people accepted the design).
- smoldesu 3y agoI wasn't really a fan of the Earpods, but they were cheap and sounded fine for $20. The Airpods do this wirelessly while sounding worse for $180. The fact that they reserve comfort-fit ear tips for their premium headphones is an insult to every user at that price point, and it sabotages any chance they had at sounding balanced or natural. Airpods Pro are much nicer, but should be the standard. The Airpods 1 (and frankly the Airpods 2 as well) sound thin and are borderline unacceptable for what they cost. Just my $0.02 though, audio and comfort are ultimately subjective.
- woeirua 3y agoHave you checked it recently? It’s better than Google Maps now.
- FirmwareBurner 3y agoRead again the comment I'm replaying to mentioning "polished at launched", not polished after 10 years of updated and fixes.
- innagadadavida 3y agoI used to laught at Apple Maps even a year ago. Usability is much much better than Google and the data has caught up too.
- phkahler 3y ago>> I have no doubt that Apple are working on local LLMs and combining them with Siri, Yeah, Apple would want to have voice chat, not text chat. Especially on a phone
- phs318u 3y ago> I have no doubt that Apple are working on local LLMs and combining them with Siri, it's only a matter of time. I expect we will see something next year, probably tied to the next iteration of hardware - they do want to sell hardware after all. This was recently submitted to HN and I think it's largely reasonable supposition: https://www.primoh.net/p/apples-ai-strategy https://www.primoh.net/p/apples-ai-strategy https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=36769225 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=36769225
- baby 3y agoPeople said that about VR/AR, and then Apple came up with something ridiculously bad compared to the Quest.
- seanmcdirmid 3y agoIt’s different from the quest for sure, it’s still too early to say it is worse (or even bad if they are not comparable at all).