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Recently had a phone screen. The job posting said "Remote". The person on the line said "Actually, we don't offer remote, the job posting was wrong. We're hybri
by 2023throwawayy 3y ago
Recently had a phone screen. The job posting said "Remote". The person on the line said "Actually, we don't offer remote, the job posting was wrong. We're hybrid, in office 3 days a week."
I did not pursue the "opportunity".
- vorpalhex 3y agoThat's either a very wasteful mistake or a series of poor decisions by that company. They are going to have a lot of candidates who are unhappy and waste a lot of time on screening.
- also23throwaway 3y agoMy company is telling everyone they hired remote over the last few years that they have to become hybrid now if they’re within n miles of an office. I’m exploring other “opportunities.”
- Jcampuzano2 3y agoMy company is starting to do this. People are actively leaving, and the company is just doubling down even more and just added an additional day of required office time, slowly clawing back to full time in office. I literally told my boss if this happens for me I both won't come in anyways and will actively start seeking other opportunities. Engineers who have been called back have already started leaving, but they seem to just hinge on hopefully surviving the storm. Additionally we are already a global company, anybody who comes into an office will be on zoom meetings with other team members riddled across the country anyways.
- mprovost 3y agoMy company did the same which led to lots of questions to determine the exact value of n so folk could move n+1 miles away and stay remote.
- sys_64738 3y agoMy company did this too but I just ignore it. I’ll stay until the pay stops shrug
- dijit 3y agowe really need more flags for “REMOTE”; I hire remote (not hybrid) but people think they can work from the Principality of Sealand, Madagascar or Timbuktu. It’s really frustrating as: for tax reason, I can only hire in Germany and Sweden (where we have business entities). But when I file a position (even where this is very clearly stated) I get literally hundreds of applications that are impossible for me to pursue- since they are never open to relocation either. Its a pretty huge waste of resources on my side because we really try to assess each application and give a clear reason why we don’t continue with them-
- itronitron 3y agoWhat is the tax reason specifically, and do they require all employees to have residency? I like to think EU would have sorted that out by now.
- dijit 3y agoI have to pay “social contributions” to the country that hosts the employee. Its not solved in an EU level, FWIW the same issue exists in the US, your company has to pay taxes to states that people work in, which can be hugely complicated: https://www.payroll.org/compliance/compliance-overview/hot-topics/multi-state-taxation https://www.payroll.org/compliance/compliance-overview/hot-t...
- orwin 3y agoSo you can't hire contractors either, or do you choose not to? (not a shot, I'm really interested on what your thoughts are on this subject).
- theshrike79 3y agoCountries don't want people working without contributing taxes to the society.
- CoastalCoder 3y agoThis can also happen within the U.S., at the state level. E.g., when living in Rhode Island, I had a few interview processes cut short after HR announced they we're prepared to have employees in that state.