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Bluesky facing degraded performance due to record high traffic
- ZacnyLos 3y agoFortunately Mastodon has multiple instances so the traffic is not harmful for the whole community as it is for Bluesky.
- Arathorn 3y agobluesky’s federation is in test (https://atproto.com/blog/federation-developer-sandbox); https://atproto.com/blog/federation-developer-sandbox); so nearly there…
- RobotToaster 3y ago>As part of the sandbox, we will be doing routine wipes of all network data. Sounds pretty centralised if they can just wipe all data like that?
- TillE 3y agoI haven't dug into the details of either protocol at all, but I hope they find a way to interoperate with ActivityPub. In the longer term we really don't want two completely isolated networks doing the same thing.
- ineedasername 3y agoI’m fine with having multiple Twitter replacements coexisting with healthy critical-mass user bases.
- aroma_mic 3y agoYeah, what I need is a Reddit replacement
- warning26 3y agoThey're getting slammed hard, but I recommend creating an account on either http://lemmy.world http://lemmy.world or http://kbin.social http://kbin.social. (Personally I prefer Lemmy due to it being closer to Reddit in design.) They both run OSS Reddit clones and appear to be gaining the most traction. As a bonus, they're also interoperable with each other, and any other server that installs the software.
- Avshalom 3y agothey also federate with mastodon
- warning26 3y ago> they also federate with mastodon True, though the Mastodon compatibility is a bit iffy at the moment; they use ActivityPub in sufficiently different ways that it's not really possible to meaningfully access a Lemmy community via a Mastodon client, for example. I believe if it works at all, you'll basically just see a firehose of comments/posts.
- ineedasername 3y agoI like the idea of Mastadon, but it reminds me a bit of the early internet days, mostly ‘95-‘05 (which is when I feel things began their subtle shift to monolithic services). And at those times, compare to now, there were hurdles to finding communities (discoverability) and having them interlinked in a “whole is greater than sum of parts” fashion. I think Mastadon actually addresses a little bit of that, but also the discoverability especially is going to be difficult with the major search engines having vested interests that don’t align with surfacing results from less centralized platforms. For example I have never once had a search return anything in the first few pages that links to a Mastadon instance, and can’t even remember that last time I had a useful result from of conversations from a traditional style forum, but I know they still exist because I can find them if I explicitly search for that sort of thing
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- vidarh 3y agoMastodon signups are up about 6x over the last few hours, but yeah not near the level of past Elon messes yet, and the number of Mastodon instances is many times higher now than for the last major one.
- chandramdutta 3y agoI mean this was the ideal reaction of users on Twitter who have a bluesky account.
- DennisAleynikov 3y agonot surprising. centralized communication platforms suffer from the hug of death naturally occurring when people want to read information all at once.
- CharlesW 3y agoNot if they’re well-designed and adequately provisioned, which is just as true for federated platforms.
- sacnoradhq 3y agoIt sounds like you're arguing from a hypothetically perfect view with 20/20 hindsight. Scaling problems are good problems, solvable at the right time without the evils of premature optimization. Doing work without a need is wasted effort.
- pm_me_your_quan 3y agoeh, I think it's arguable here that making a good experience here would really help cement people swapping over. Then again unclear if twitter is going to remove the super low limit, so people may abandon it anyway.
- CharlesW 3y ago> It sounds like you're arguing from a hypothetically perfect view with 20/20 hindsight. I'm just stating the obvious, which is that whether a service is centralized or federated has nothing to do with it. Mastodon would melt long before operating at Twitter scale, for example. (And to your points, I don't think that's necessarily bad.) But, if there's any company on earth that should have 20/20 hindsight about this, it's Twitter. Post-"fail whale" era and pre-Musk, the service weathered far larger challenges without collapsing.
- vidarh 3y agoIt probably would, but Mastodon is now at around 13M accounts, but with ca. 3x as many instances as when it hit 10M, so it's increasingly better prepared for large user surges. E.g. signups have hit ~6x what they were earlier today but it's still only an average of one signup per instance per hour.
- ayhanfuat 3y agoDid they start fighting scrapers, too? I cannot see the contents of the link it asks me to log in.
- paulgb 3y agoI think bluesky posts have always been private, at least while they are in invite-only mode. Here's what the linked skeet says: > Our systems are currently experiencing some degraded performance as a result of record-high traffic. You may notice some slowness in-app as a result. Our team is working to resolve this issue. > You can view our system performance status here: status.bsky.app
- moonterrace 3y agoPosts are not private according to the FAQ: https://blueskyweb.xyz/blog/5-19-2023-user-faq https://blueskyweb.xyz/blog/5-19-2023-user-faq
- paulgb 3y agoSorry, you're right, private is the wrong word. I instead mean that the public web UI does not display them if you are not logged in.
- reaperman 3y agoBy LinkedIn vs. HiQ -- if two things are both true then scraping is illegal: 1) The ToS has clauses in it against scraping 2) There is a login wall that enforces agreeing to the ToS before seeing any content. #2 is true for now, I can't verify #1.
- ShadowBanThis01 3y agoTOS ≠ law
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- mg 3y agoWhat's funny is that while Twitter wants you to log in and goes at great length to prevent you from reading anything when not logged in, the situation is exactly the other way round with Bluesky. They limit who can sign in, but openly publish all data via their API. So one could use an AT protocol client to read, or a web based client like this one: https://firesky.tv/ https://firesky.tv/ I just made an account, let's see how this thing works: @gnod.bsky.social
- donohoe 3y agoI’m there too: @donohoe.dev
- rpastuszak 3y agoAny chance you can share an invite code with me? (Email in the profile)
- bushbaba 3y agoNo guarantee they don’t change this when they get bigger and shift from user acquisition to revenue & profitability. Bluesky is VC funded and there’s expectations of revenue growth down the line.
- mg 3y agoI have not looked into it very deeply yet, but as I understand the Bluesky project, this would not be as easy for Bluesky as it is for Twitter and Reddit. You can use your own domain as your identity. Even when you use a service like bsky.app, you can use @yourdomain.com as your handle. And switch to any other service to publish under the same handle.
- svnt 3y agoI’m not sure how your argument serves as any counter to “VCs invest in companies to make money” except that the shell game may be one deeper in this case.
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- smy20011 3y agoCannot see anything. Do I need to login?
- ForHackernews 3y agoAnyone handing out Bluesky invite codes?
- ziml77 3y agoI'm also interested if anyone has one ^^
- tel 3y agoI’d also be interested.
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- sorcix 3y agobsky-social-e5qhz-qqdtr (edit: someone used it)
- charrondev 3y agoAnyone else have one?
- searchableguy 3y agoEmail me if someone has.
- canogat 3y agoI too would love a Bluesky invite
- Hamuko 3y agoI have a couple left but I'm gatekeeping them pretty hard since I only want to invite people I think are cool.
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- petesergeant 3y agoBut it’s owned by Jack, right? Who’s posting increasingly Musk-level takes on Twitter
- donohoe 3y agoNo. I believe he is just on the board.
- PartiallyTyped 3y agoThe “At” protocol is supposed to allow you to take your account elsewhere. Since you own the domain, nobody else can use it and thus you may migrate to instances owned by other corporations or by you even.
- bscphil 3y agoNot that this isn't nice, but won't it inevitably be the case for 99.999% of users (if they actually get to be large enough) that they reply on some other service (or BlueSky itself) to provide their @domain? I can't imagine that the full solution for account portability requires every single user to own their own domain in perpetuity.
- publius_0xf3 3y agoSeriously, what is with Silicon Valley people turning into insane cranks over the past year? Is there a ketamine fad causing brain damage among them?
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- DennisAleynikov 3y agoIt might just be their opinions mature with time. These aren't exactly outlandish opinions
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- salgorithm 3y agomirror link https://skeeet.xyz/?url=https://bsky.app/profile/bsky.app/post/3jzi4yw3nqu2h https://skeeet.xyz/?url=https://bsky.app/profile/bsky.app/po...
- cmckn 3y agoMy invite codes are piling up, so here are a few: (Removed, all used) Don’t be weird. The invites link back to me. :)
- misiti3780 3y agoany others?
- sinak 3y agoAll gone already. Anyone have more?
- cmckn 3y agoThey still show as unused on my end, but maybe that’s impacted by the outage. Edit: ah, hard refresh of the app fixed that. Sorry!
- akchin 3y agoI can’t use them as well.
- JordiGarcL 3y agoYep these are not accepted when creating an account
- frankjr 3y agoInterested as well!
- CSSer 3y agoemailed.
- RoboTeddy 3y agoHappen to have one more? thank you either way!
- paxys 3y agoSo bluesky has been in development for 2+ years, is well funded, is invite only, has a few thousand total active users, and still can't handle the load.. Is this supposed to be the great Twitter killer?
- sacnoradhq 3y ago0. Maybe someone hooked it up to logging the output of their 10T parameter LM in training. 1. Any news is good news, so DoS yourself to make some news on HN. :) 2. Code whoops causing amplification.
- pessimizer 3y agoIt's shocking. I've been very optimistic because they have infinite money to throw at it, and no need for a profit. Is persistent peer-to-peer messaging just impossible to write?
- cout 3y agoWith so many novel platforms popping up, I feel whelmed; is there a central place I can go that ties it all together? (Like Google reader used to be for rss)
- TheRealPomax 3y agoSorry, is there an actual article with a real URL somewhere? Because this just goes to a lock screen going "create an account", so either everyone who upvoted this has a bluesky account, or the post got locked down and it's no longer information. It's just a gate.
- chandramdutta 3y agohttps://skeeet.xyz/?url=https://bsky.app/profile/bsky.app/post/3jzi4yw3nqu2h https://skeeet.xyz/?url=https://bsky.app/profile/bsky.app/po...
- TheRealPomax 3y agoNot sure I'm going to click on something called skeeet.xyz, especially not if, looking it up, that's just another redirector
- navanchauhan 3y agobsky-social-u4wmd-w45ar Have another invite but I will need some time to get it from the app because it is not loading for me right now. Just email me and I will send it as soon as I get it Again, please be responsible! The invite code is linked to me
- Enydosnes 3y agoDoesn't seem as though you have a publicly linked email, could you maybe provide another venue of contacting you? Would love to try out bluesky
- navanchauhan 3y agoEdit: Removed email. For everyone else who sent an email, I'll send a code along your way as soon as I get more. Do sign up for the waitlist if you can.
- Enydosnes 3y agoThank you for the response, I've sent an email!
- xenospn 3y agoI've got a few invites - here you go: Edit: all gone! Not sure how they went so fast
- Shivatron 3y agoI took 3t208—thank you!
- losteric 3y agoall gone :(
- DennisAleynikov 3y agoThat was fast...
- dieulot 3y agoTook the second-to-last successfully, thanks!
- shmde 3y agoAll of them gone within around 2 mins. Are there bots scraping them ?
- DennisAleynikov 3y agoMost likely yes, they were gone when the comment was 0minutes old
- dieulot 3y agoI used curl|grep every 3 to 10 seconds manually.
- keyworkorange 3y agoDang, bummer. Those went fast! Thanks for posting though xenospn
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- alas_coo 3y agonpub1lpxhhalw39227a7358nqdyetg0rsm43622vqvlaeuqwqgmk3qtzsrluxc9
- lucb1e 3y agothis is a public key for Nostr, for anyone else wondering if this is an encoded bluesky invite code (a friend asked me; I don't know how much time we wasted together) so uh, thanks for that very useful and insightful comment
- ryzvonusef 3y agohttps://twitter.com/disclosetv/status/1675218068581040128 https://twitter.com/disclosetv/status/1675218068581040128 apparently Twitch has issues too
- shmde 3y agoIf anyone's sharing the invite codes please mask the final letters/numbers with some trivia to solve. There are definitely bots scraping the page.
- kacesensitive 3y agobsky-social-tnag7-v5l4n If anyone needs an invite
- jhutch 3y agoIf you have any additional, would thoroughly appreciate an invite. zapper.00-quavers@icloud.com Thanks in advance!
- hfern 3y agoThank you!
- StephenAmar 3y agoWould love an invite too. [HN user name]@gmail.com
- firstSpeaker 3y agoGot any more invites? I appreciate if you send me one to cliche.finest.0k@icloud.com -- thanks
- chandramdutta 3y agobsky-social-nvzcq-aqezp bsky-social-soxkc-r4bpk for anyone who wants to join bluesky
- NockNock 3y agoGone in under 1 minute
- firstSpeaker 3y agoIf you had more invites to spare I would appreciate one too. cliche.finest.0k@icloud.com -- Thank you.
- capybara_2020 3y agoLemmy.world also seems to be getting slammed. I am out of the loop, is this because of the reddit API change or did something else happen?
- chrisbolt 3y agoProbably due to Twitter limiting unverified accounts to reading 600 posts/day: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=36552324 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=36552324
- TJSomething 3y agoIt probably also surged specifically today since the API change actually occurred yesterday.
- mvelbaum 3y agoDamn, these invites are running out so quickly :(
- LeoPanthera 3y agoOut of one closed corporate silo and into another closed corporate silo. No-one learns.
- replwoacause 3y agoI do and I’m not joining! Even once the invite system is lifted. The whole thing already sends a shiver down my spine.
- Waterluvian 3y agoWill BlueSky ever be profitable or is this just the outdated “sell a dollar for ninety cents” business model?
- xwdv 3y agoIs there a guide to having fun on this app? I got an invite, made an account and took a look around, and left. There’s no real content.
- pierat 3y agoUhh, going from corporate gated community where the inmates and head are wacko, to another corporate gated community sounds like..... Well, it sounds completely stupid. Do the plebes never learn that soon enough, their own community will be sold back to them after hijacking conversation for $$$$$ ?
- dataangel 3y agoblue sky invite please
- dynm 3y agoHere are some invite codes. Because some people are complaining about bots to use these you should: (1) reverse the order of the stuff before/after the hyphen (12345-67890 -> 67890-12345) (2) add "bsky-social-" to the beginning. Here are the codes: 45whe-qoupi gmuxm-k6x3j tc30d-wwpjb tqunq-rtgar 7wecn-kfevc I won't be online to delete these so if you use one (or try to use one and find it's done) please leave a comment to save other people from wasting time
- moonshinefe 3y agoThey all appear to be used. Bummer.
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- firstSpeaker 3y agoGot any more invites? I appreciate if you send me one to cliche.finest.0k@icloud.com -- thanks
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- synchronizing 3y agoFor those looking for a code - I found a valid code in 10 mins by looking up 'bsky-social-' on Twitter and refreshing the 'Latest' tab every few secs. Got to be quick and swift, but works.
- chrisbolt 3y agohttps://bsky.app/profile/bsky.app/post/3jzihryv25y2m https://bsky.app/profile/bsky.app/post/3jzihryv25y2m "We will temporarily be pausing Bluesky sign-ups while our team continues to resolve the existing performance issues. We’ll keep you updated when invite codes will resume functionality. We’re excited to welcome more users to our beta soon!"
- kens 3y agoSince Bluesky is invite-only and there's a lot of clamoring for invite codes, it's easy to think that you're missing out if you're not a member. I'd like to offer a different perspective, that most HN readers would probably be happier on Mastodon than Bluesky. In particular, Bluesky is very small, has a strange vibe, and has almost no technical content or people interested in it. The number of participants on Bluesky is small, and everyone seems to know each other. Getting even a single like on a post is an accomplishment, and getting 16 likes (I think) gets you onto What's Hot. Approximately nobody is interested in technical discussions; Mastodon is much better for that. The vibe on Bluesky is weird. Everyone is very enthusiastic about being there, and most of the discussion is about being on Bluesky. Someone said that everyone is Extremely Online and much more interested in meta-discussion than discussion, and I'd agree. Bluesky is all about the in-jokes and memes, which turn over at a dizzying rate, much faster than even Twitter. It's a very horny place, with lots of butt photos. I don't want to be negative about Bluesky. For people who want a tight-knit community to chat with, it's great. But don't feel like you're missing out if you don't have an invite code. (BTW, I don't have any to give out.) Edit: I'm not hyping Mastodon here, just comparing Twitter alternatives. Unfortunately, so far I've found that Twitter is the best choice for me. I get maybe 10% of the interesting technical discussion on Mastodon that I get on Twitter. And I still don't understand how to work with the federation. There's also Newsmast, a new social app that reached out to me, but there's approximately 0 content there. One thing I forgot to mention about Bluesky is that it looks exactly like Twitter, so much that I can forget which app I'm on. It's very different in that regard from Mastodon, which is like alternate-universe Twitter.
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- MBCook 3y agoI disagree, only because I’m on Mastodon and a ton of people are missing. A large chunk of the Apple nerd ecosystem I followed on Twitter moved, and I like that I can still follow them. But everyone else I followed either never moved or quickly gave up and seems to have taken up residence on Bluesky. So without an invite code, and the possibility Twitter will disappear real quick, I’m left with no way to follow them and I’m just forced to miss out. There’s no way to get a code if you don’t know someone. There is no indication when signups will open. I have no idea what my place in line is. I’m just screwed.
- KomoD 3y agoI don't like the fact that this links to somewhere we can't even view, I think the whole "invite-only" thing is stupid as hell.
- ShadowBanThis01 3y agoThis post is spam, attempting to build hype, and has no business on HN. But don't dare say that...
- KomoD 3y agoI have a pretty strong feeling the hype will die down and it'll become like clubhouse, but hey I might be wrong, who knows.
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- weinzierl 3y ago"Account creation is temporarily disabled" This adds an additional element of suspense for all the invite code snatchers.
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- ShadowBanThis01 3y agoWhat is "Bluesky?" That link just goes to a landing page with no explanation. Pathetic. This insulting post reeks of spam.
- irusensei 3y agoNostr is lively today. No server problems though at least not in the relays I'm using.