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>FTC: What about Diablo? Can you promise it will ship on all future versions of PlayStation? >Spencer: Can I promise? I am able to promise, yes. The kind of o

>FTC: What about Diablo? Can you promise it will ship on all future versions of PlayStation? >Spencer: Can I promise? I am able to promise, yes. The kind of obnoxious reply I'd expect from somebody on Xbox live, not their chief.

pstanger 3y ago
I didn't read it as a grammar correction but much is lost in transcripts
wilg 3y ago
Is this obnoxious? Or just how people talk? Sometimes they just repeat and/or slightly reword the question before answering it.
- speak_plainly 3y ago
  It’s obnoxious because it appears he’s trying to make light of the question by misidentifying its scope. It wasn’t a question about his ability but rather a future state of affairs.
- boomboomsubban 3y ago
  Responding to "can you..." with "I can but won't" is generally obnoxious behavior. Maybe he was thinking out loud, but they should have known full well what the judge was asking and by refusing to answer the clarified follow-up they seemed to be doing whatever they could to weasel out of saying anything meaningful.
  - wilg 3y ago
    I guess I didn't read it that way, but maybe you're right. I'm not sure it's a reasonable thing to be asked to promise, so it doesn't really upset me.
    - boomboomsubban 3y ago
      > I'm not sure it's a reasonable thing to be asked to promise If that was their response, I'd have no issue with it. I dislike the "technically I can but won't" answer followed by silence. It shows an attempt to deceive.
  - the8472 3y ago
    > Responding to "can you..." with "I can but won't" is generally obnoxious behavior. It's a prod to get people to say what they actually want, instead of asking a vague questions with a stronger implication because it waters down the actual meaning of the words and is as weaselly as the response. Asking for the ability, requesting an action and giving a command are different things. Doubly so in hearings by government officials. "Will no one rid me of this turbulent priest?"
causality0 3y ago
If it isn't a guarantee in writing it isn't even worth wasting the time to perceive it, let alone believe it. Executives are just piles of wet meat whose only function is turning lies into profit.
- wldcordeiro 3y ago
  Not even just a guarantee in writing, the only thing that actually holds these assholes is regulations with actual punishments.
- blitzar 3y ago
  The guarantee has been spoken, it has been written, is has been commited to in writing with nation states, it has been sworn to under oath. You obviously have information that is counter to this, I for one would appreciate if you could produce it. Xbox executives can then be charged criminally and prosecuted.
  - 3np 3y ago
    Well, no, they just said they would be able to promise. Actual promise was not made.
    - blitzar 3y ago
      https://assets.publishing.service.gov.uk/media/64088cf9d3bf7f25f61ff804/Microsoft.Activision_-_Response_to_Remedies_Notice_-_NCV__2_.pdf https://assets.publishing.service.gov.uk/media/64088cf9d3bf7... Is that written enough for you? 4 seconds of googling.
wldcordeiro 3y ago
These kinds of questions are such bullshit too just getting promises from these people are meaningless. Ticketmaster "promised" that buying LiveNation wouldn't lead to more price gouging, venues extorting artists, etc and all that happened nearly instantly because they were able to consolidate the market further and vertically integrate more.
fweimer 3y ago
How can he promise that, given that it's a walled garden and they can't publish anything without Sony's approval?
- boomboomsubban 3y ago
  They were able to promise all CoDs would be on PlayStation, so presumably the same way.
- web3-is-a-scam 3y ago
  Why would Sony refuse to allow diablo 4, or call of duty for that matter, to appear on the PlayStation? The most contentious thing about the entire activision deal is the titles that currently release on PlayStation becoming exclusive to Microsoft platforms, there’s no chance Sony would ever block those games from their platform arbitrarily just silly business move.
  - fweimer 3y ago
    In the future, these games could come with their own nested game stores, bypassing the platform store. It wouldn't be an issue for Microsoft because they own both games and platform. It might be tough to accept for Sony.
  - johnnyanmac 3y ago
    WHo knows? Times change, leadership changes, priorities change. I never thought Sony, a Japaanese company, would abandon their Japanese branch of first party development, but here we are. It's simply Gran Turismo and some support wings to help out 3rd party developers. Oh, and a singular VR team that hasn't yet announced its first time since the scale down.
matwood 3y ago
The FTC is equally obnoxious here by asking absolute questions with 'all'.

pstanger 3y ago

I didn't read it as a grammar correction but much is lost in transcripts

wilg 3y ago

Is this obnoxious? Or just how people talk? Sometimes they just repeat and/or slightly reword the question before answering it.

speak_plainly 3y ago
It’s obnoxious because it appears he’s trying to make light of the question by misidentifying its scope. It wasn’t a question about his ability but rather a future state of affairs.
boomboomsubban 3y ago
Responding to "can you..." with "I can but won't" is generally obnoxious behavior. Maybe he was thinking out loud, but they should have known full well what the judge was asking and by refusing to answer the clarified follow-up they seemed to be doing whatever they could to weasel out of saying anything meaningful.
- wilg 3y ago
  I guess I didn't read it that way, but maybe you're right. I'm not sure it's a reasonable thing to be asked to promise, so it doesn't really upset me.
  - boomboomsubban 3y ago
    > I'm not sure it's a reasonable thing to be asked to promise If that was their response, I'd have no issue with it. I dislike the "technically I can but won't" answer followed by silence. It shows an attempt to deceive.
- the8472 3y ago
  > Responding to "can you..." with "I can but won't" is generally obnoxious behavior. It's a prod to get people to say what they actually want, instead of asking a vague questions with a stronger implication because it waters down the actual meaning of the words and is as weaselly as the response. Asking for the ability, requesting an action and giving a command are different things. Doubly so in hearings by government officials. "Will no one rid me of this turbulent priest?"

causality0 3y ago

If it isn't a guarantee in writing it isn't even worth wasting the time to perceive it, let alone believe it. Executives are just piles of wet meat whose only function is turning lies into profit.

wldcordeiro 3y ago
Not even just a guarantee in writing, the only thing that actually holds these assholes is regulations with actual punishments.
blitzar 3y ago
The guarantee has been spoken, it has been written, is has been commited to in writing with nation states, it has been sworn to under oath. You obviously have information that is counter to this, I for one would appreciate if you could produce it. Xbox executives can then be charged criminally and prosecuted.
- 3np 3y ago
  Well, no, they just said they would be able to promise. Actual promise was not made.
  - blitzar 3y ago
    https://assets.publishing.service.gov.uk/media/64088cf9d3bf7f25f61ff804/Microsoft.Activision_-_Response_to_Remedies_Notice_-_NCV__2_.pdf https://assets.publishing.service.gov.uk/media/64088cf9d3bf7... Is that written enough for you? 4 seconds of googling.

wldcordeiro 3y ago

These kinds of questions are such bullshit too just getting promises from these people are meaningless. Ticketmaster "promised" that buying LiveNation wouldn't lead to more price gouging, venues extorting artists, etc and all that happened nearly instantly because they were able to consolidate the market further and vertically integrate more.

fweimer 3y ago

How can he promise that, given that it's a walled garden and they can't publish anything without Sony's approval?

boomboomsubban 3y ago
They were able to promise all CoDs would be on PlayStation, so presumably the same way.
web3-is-a-scam 3y ago
Why would Sony refuse to allow diablo 4, or call of duty for that matter, to appear on the PlayStation? The most contentious thing about the entire activision deal is the titles that currently release on PlayStation becoming exclusive to Microsoft platforms, there’s no chance Sony would ever block those games from their platform arbitrarily just silly business move.
- fweimer 3y ago
  In the future, these games could come with their own nested game stores, bypassing the platform store. It wouldn't be an issue for Microsoft because they own both games and platform. It might be tough to accept for Sony.
- johnnyanmac 3y ago
  WHo knows? Times change, leadership changes, priorities change. I never thought Sony, a Japaanese company, would abandon their Japanese branch of first party development, but here we are. It's simply Gran Turismo and some support wings to help out 3rd party developers. Oh, and a singular VR team that hasn't yet announced its first time since the scale down.

matwood 3y ago

The FTC is equally obnoxious here by asking absolute questions with 'all'.