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Leaked Microsoft poll shows fewer employees have confidence in leadership
- redbell 3y agohttps://archive.ph/2023.06.23-204806/https://www.businessinsider.com/microsoft-poll-shows-falling-confidence-in-leadership-pay-woes-2023-6 https://archive.ph/2023.06.23-204806/https://www.businessins...
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- tester756 3y agoI think it is quite expected after layoffs / bonuses pause, right? I don't think this is due to beliefs that e.g strategy is bad or something? or is it?
- bperki8 3y ago> Notably, Microsoft closed the annual poll called "Employee Signals" before announcing it would pause raises and cut bonuses and stock awards this year, a decision some employees have criticized in questions to company leaders viewed by Insider.
- tester756 3y agoI thought they had pauses in previous year too, nvm then
- paxys 3y agoLayoffs. Bonuses cut. Raises and promos frozen. No shit a random employee survey is going to trend downward. Ask the outside world on the other hand and they’ll say Microsoft leadership is doing a stellar job. The stock market definitely reflects it.
- iinnPP 3y agoSo the people making more money because the employees are making less money are happy, and that means the leadership is doing well. Money means too much to too many people.
- bolyarche 3y ago[dead]
- heyoni 3y agoMoney means everything in a world where safety nets are fraught with disdain.
- ChuckNorris89 3y agoEven in a world with safety nets, like in Europe, you still need decent money to fund a first world lifestyle, which you don't get from your safety nets, and I'm not talking about a huge house and a garage full of sports cars. Safety nets are there to prevent you from becoming homeless that's it, so you'll definitely want a to work a good job and not rely on your safety nets. I don't think Microsoft employees in the US are at risk of becoming homeless.
- heyoni 3y agoSure, but lack of safety nets can definitely turn you homeless OR force you to forego crucial medical interventions (in the US at least). For example, my daughter has some developmental delays she might be able to grow out of with the proper therapies. These therapies cost thousands of dollars a month so when my wife and I talk about what the best thing to do for our daughter is, we usually land on "making more money, getting that next promotion", because one of us staying home with the kid makes a number of things become unaffordable.
- ChuckNorris89 3y agoI take it back, I didn't know it was that bad in the US. I guess I only speak from my bubble as a single, low paid SW dev in the EU. Having kids that need expensive medical expenses is something I didn't think about, because one, I don't have kids, and two, it's normal here to have most critical medical expenses covered, although, even here I still have plenty out of pocket costs due to how thinly stretched the public health system is, so you get the care you need for free, IF you happen to be dying right NOW, otherwise it could mean suffering for months long waits and/or out of pocket fees. Still better than the US probably.
- mrjin 3y agoJust look at Windows 10, it explains everything.
- trinsic2 3y agoActually. Windows 11 explains everything.
- layer8 3y agoIt started with Windows 8.
- NayamAmarshe 3y agoI'll go against the flow and say Windows 8 was the last time they tried something new and bold.
- layer8 3y agoThat’s not a contradiction. However, they largely failed in that, and one might say that it was predictable. Most Windows users don’t care about “new and bold”. They care about stuff working, having a consistent UI, stuff not changing each year, not having their preferences reset by updates, and not being subjected to ads and telemetry.
- solardev 3y agoI honestly can't remember any improvements from 7 to 11, except more ads and more config screens for the same options, making everything super confusing. I miss the old Windows that would just stay outta my way... now every time I have to reinstall Windows or boot up a fresh VM, there's always a "wtf is this" moment when you see all the ads and Bing and Cortana spam at first startup. I wish the VSCode team would take over Windows and trim the fat lol
- pjmlp 3y agoThey already kind of did. "Azure OS" with Web applications. That is why Windows desktop has become a mess.
- firstSpeaker 3y agohttps://archive.ph/m8pf7 https://archive.ph/m8pf7
- noepsteinguys 3y agoReid Hoffman is still on Microsoft’s board despite all his Epstein dealings, so yeah…
- badpun 3y agoDo employees need a confidence in leadership? Employment, like all trade, is basically an adversarial, zero-sum relationship. I don't need to have a confidence in a counterparty in a trade - on the contrary, I'd prefer them to be a gullible fool.
- owenmarshall 3y ago> I don't need to have a confidence in a counterparty in a trade - on the contrary, I'd prefer them to be a gullible fool. Gullible fools may pay you over the odds once or twice, but won’t survive in a competitive market. They’ll go bust, because too many other savvy players are rinsing them.
- throwawaysleep 3y agoDoes it matter? Employment is an increasingly short term relationship too. I don't care if my employer survives other than they survive long enough to get into a lifeboat.
- spacemadness 3y agoI can see this point of view from someone who is young and single with no anchor anywhere. Not everyone wants to be a digital nomad and/or be constantly on edge and mercenary with their career.
- throwawaysleep 3y agoYou can do that, but it comes at the cost of no wage increases. If you can’t leave, you have no leverage.
- owenmarshall 3y agoI could go into consulting or start my own business – the highs would be way higher, but the risk of lower lows even worse. On the other end of the spectrum, I could accept a 50%+ wage cut in exchange for an exceptionally stable job & a defined benefit pension. Even in the private sector my risk can vary: hyper aggressive startup that pays in equity, long-tenured industrial that has an OK salary and 401k. I'm a shade closer to the startup risk profile, but that's just me. Plenty of employees are entirely willing to stay on the conservative end of the scale & give up chances for big returns - heck, some even give up anything beyond marginal cost of living adjustments! - in exchange for working at a stable company that is slow to hire, slow to fire. But that's an exchange ... if company leadership isn't trusted, good employees won't take that deal because bad leadership = an unstable employer.
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- justinclift 3y agoDirectly related: Microsoft Freezes Salaries for 2023 / https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=35889709 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=35889709
- nine_zeros 3y agoThe industry has changed immensely. What used to be 5 year software engineering careers in one company has changed to 1.5-w years. Some of it is because of employers undervaluing existing employees. Some of it is because technology is changing too fast, so compensation is higher elsewhere. But mostly, it is because of layers and layers and layers of management that stunt engineers with BS OKRs and performance ratings. Literally none of the tech management is driving new products, better services, better ideas and yet, they control employees. They steer entire teams into crises. Why would anyone have confidence in them? In a battlefield, would soldiers have more confidence in commanders who understand the battlefield or would they have more confidence in "pseudo-leaders" who say BS and use performance ratings to fire people?