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Lemmy stats (users, posts, nodes, comments)

198 points by Paul-Craft 3y ago

Paul-Craft 3y ago
~277k users, up from ~51k on June 1 319 nodes, up from 84 on June 1 Sure, this is nothing compared to Reddit's userbase, but we'll see in a couple weeks how big this will get.
- ActionHank 3y ago
  I've been planning a jump across, but have been waiting it out to see if they see the error of their ways. Thus far they just keep jumping from one awful talking point to the next like a toddler trying to rationalize bad behaviour.
  - Paul-Craft 3y ago
    I'm blanking out my 10 year old account (after requesting my data dump) sometime around the first if they don't do something to reverse course.
    - deevious 3y ago
      I requested GDPR exports for my accounts 8 days ago, nothing turned up yet. I have shreddit lined up to run as soon as I get my zips.
      - Paul-Craft 3y ago
        I've heard of multiple people who have done the same and have had the same problem. It seems either so many people are requesting their data that it's bogging down the process, Reddit is deliberately slow-playing it, or both.
      - samstave 3y ago
        Does one have to be an EU citizen to request via GDRP? If so - I made the offer to sell my accounts to any GDRP person for $1 such that I can make those requests for data (ill pay more than $1, its just to make it an actual transaction) I have 17 years of content contributed to reddit... and I'd like to kill it all.
    - accrual 3y ago
      I was curious to see HN's view on removing Reddit account data. I have a couple old accounts (>12 years) with many thousands of comments. My personal perspective is that deleting all these comments, some of which contain technical help, advice, solutions, etc., would really be a net-negative for everyone. I understand wanting to send a message to Reddit leadership, but in reality the blip is so small as to probably not even register. On the other hand, those comments will probably be valuable to someone, somewhere, sometime and all I'd be doing is harming those future readers and salting the metaphorical earth. Looking further into the future, let's assume Reddit collapses in 5 years in 2027. The money is dried up, management is gone, and all that's left are decades of data hopefully archived. Are people 5, 10, 20 years from now going to appreciate that a subset of data was purged in protest? Or are they going to appreciate that they found some useful data still in the archive that might actually help something? I'd rather be in the latter camp. And maybe one day someone will ask their at-home AI bot a question about <niche topic>, and a small part of me will be emitted in the output.
      - Nexxxeh 3y ago
        I've been helped by old posts from others on Reddit and elsewhere. It seems like a dick move to delete mine.
  - chongli 3y ago
    I've been planning a jump across I’m not sure why people think of it this way. Why not just create a lemmy account and try it out? There’s no physical stuff to move (unlike moving to a new apartment or house). You’re not required to delete your Reddit account either. Am I missing something here?
    - bigyikes 3y ago
      It’s because Lemmy isn’t actually compelling outside of a few niche circles.
      - chongli 3y ago
        The same can be said about Reddit. I’m not subscribed to any of the big subreddits there. I use it for niche communities. To me, that’s the whole point! Lemmy’s having some growing pains right now (spinning wheel of death) but I’m confident they’ll be resolved. At that point, it’ll be much nicer to use, so I’m pretty happy with that. As for people hoping to one day “jump over,” I think that’s a mistake with almost anything. Dip your toe in, don’t go “all in” on anything you’ve never used before. You’re much less likely to end up extremely disappointed that way.
      - dragontamer 3y ago
        In my experience, private instances of PhpBB forums provide niche webtools that are necessary for community building that Reddit could never replace. The Tetris community created a Javascript gui called Fumen (https://harddrop.com/fumen/ https://harddrop.com/fumen/), that can be embedded into PhpBB forums. The chess community created Javascript GUIs that read/write .pgn files (aka: move-history files) to help the community discuss games. The Go community created a similar GUI for Go games. Etc. etc. ----------- Since the administrator controls the whole webpage (including Javascript), you can host local tools in a Reddit-like environment. I think people are sleeping on the potential here, especially if you've never used these custom web-GUIs before.
    - izzydata 3y ago
      I think those are two independent actions. They would probably delete their reddit data regardless of Lemmy working out or not.
  - Aachen 3y ago
    Same-ish, but: I'm not using reddit in the meantime to send a message of "this is what you're looking at when reddit keeps their current plans". I don't know if that's also part of your master plan, but if not, at least if a significant number of people think like that, then reddit has little reason to care. I'm also on Tildes now, probably because of the invite-only FOMO, but a full comparative study (figuring out which lemmy instance to sign up with, as well as looking into other alternatives) is something I'll be forced to do only after June 30th, and I've mastered the art of procrastination so it's not going to be any sooner.
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- bogwog 3y ago
  It doesn't really matter if lemmy kills reddit. If a new community grows and survives after this whole thing, that's a win for everybody.
  - samstave 3y ago
    Im really suprised nobody has recommended Saiddit... however, reddit admins went and setup accounts there early on...
  - NoboruWataya 3y ago
    Exactly. To me, all this talk of whether Lemmy will replace Reddit is a distraction. 90% of what is on Reddit is (in my opinion) crap, I would be happy if it stayed on Reddit or went somewhere else entirely. All I want to know is whether Lemmy can reach a critical mass where there is enough going on there that it's worth visiting.
    - JumpCrisscross 3y ago
      > all this talk of whether Lemmy will replace Reddit is a distraction The question is whether it can become a default place to build an online community. Currently, the answer is no unless you have extremely strong ideological coherence that will get your users through the Kafkaesque onboarding process.
      - dragontamer 3y ago
        Beehaw.org has a difficult onboarding process by design. And I welcome their experimentation. But Lemmy.world is... fine-ish? The main issue is the bugs. If the sending of the confirm email fails, the website spins forever without an error. (And it looks like so many "confirm emails' were sent, that Lemmy.world was getting blocked for spam by its provider). If you have an underscore in your username, the signup process hangs and spins forever. If your password is longer than 20 characters or so, the signup process hangs and spins forever. Etc. etc. Its not the best process and these bugs need to be fixed. But if you're like me (who created at the right time with a typical password and typical username), you probably get in to https://lemmy.world https://lemmy.world just fine.
- nologic01 3y ago
  This is quite remarkable. It not just the numbers. Those are likely opinionated reddit users that will help the platform go faster through its baby steps.
stemlord 3y ago
Would like to see reddit stats
- rvz 3y ago
  Let's give Lemmy some time to see if people would stick around and abandon Reddit for good in the next 6 months. Then we will see how strong Reddit's network effect is against a new 'alternative' to take a significant amount of Reddit's daily active users.
- VWWHFSfQ 3y ago
  I'm sure Reddit is prepared for a small contraction in their active userbase while also seeing a significant increase in monetizability of the remaining users.
  - Aachen 3y ago
    My thinking as well. Let's encourage everyone to make the exodus not small. Especially when you're a creator, you're an audience multiplier and it's worth pointing people to an alternative social site where they can also find your content. I'd consider myself a creator, but it's all hobby and not commercial in the slightest. If you're commercial, I understand staying on reddit, but at least consider opening up a second profile elsewhere and pointing people there (while continuing to bet on both horses, so the audience can choose and you keep the audience either way).
  - randomdata 3y ago
    A small number of users provide what attracts the rest of the userbase. It will be interesting to see which small group leaves.
    - MisterBastahrd 3y ago
      Those users aren't leaving the platform. They have no incentive to do so. Hard to gain imaginary internet points on a slow, broken federated system.
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juujian 3y ago
Could Lemmy have something akin to r/all? I have always used Reddit more to discover new contents, trends, and communities then to check up on communities i already know (with a few exceptions).
- rdschouw 3y ago
  You mean this? https://lemmy.world/home/data_type/Post/listing_type/All/sort/Hot/page/1 https://lemmy.world/home/data_type/Post/listing_type/All/sor...
  - juujian 3y ago
    Yeah, though this is even better: https://lemmy.world/home/data_type/Post/listing_type/All/sort/TopDay/page/1 https://lemmy.world/home/data_type/Post/listing_type/All/sor... Kind of broken though, it keeps showing new posts at the top when they are posted, which should not happen when you sort for Top Posts of the Day. Any place to report bugs?
    - sputter_token 3y ago
      https://github.com/LemmyNet/lemmy/issues https://github.com/LemmyNet/lemmy/issues
  - ehutch79 3y ago
    Very memorable.
- camel-cdr 3y ago
  You filter through all, local and subscribed community posts on your statepage. The sorting in general needs a bit of work though.
teepo 3y ago
Well if we hugged the stats page to death, as it appears to me, some of us will need more context. Like what is Lemmy?
- IggleSniggle 3y ago
  Lemmy, like kbin or mastodon, is a frontend to federated social media, ie ActivityPub. Lemmy is made to feel more or less like Reddit, while Mastodon is made to feel more or less like Twitter, and kbin is sort of in the middle and feels oriented to news aggregation, but they all interoperate over ActivityPub. "Federated" means someone can pop up an instance, and even if the server isn't hosting any content, it can act your "view" into the fediverse.
garrettjoecox 3y ago
A bit off topic, but why does it seem like not a single page on this site uses caching of any sort? Every time it’s brought up and I click into it I’m met with minute(s) long loading screens. Surely they aren’t pulling all of these stats from every node every single page load right?
- taywrobel 3y ago
  I don’t think this is off topic, because this is a common theme across all of Lemmy. Not necessarily no caching, but abysmal performance across the board. As much as I want the project to succeed it’s unusable currently, and with more Reddit communities coming back from the blackout, their opportunity to claim the user base in the long run is already passed. The stats over the last month are impressive (if you can get them to load), but it’s going to be a flash in the pan if they can’t make the website function, and I fear the ship has already left the dock.
  - raybb 3y ago
    Don't have a link now but as I understand it the main problem is they were using websockets and it didn't scale to so many users. So they're switching to rest api calls and that should fix a lot of the issues. But it's a pretty big switch they've been working hard on.
    - ehutch79 3y ago
      Shouldn't rest (or graphql) be the default? with realtime updates being a progressive enhancement?
      - shagie 3y ago
        Note that what amounts to a single page app with all the links rendered after fetching some data from a service isn't going to be something that can be indexed by a search engine. A google search for site:lemmy.ml with it rendered this way will never result in any data. This may or may not be a good thing since it isn't necessarily assured that the data is stored for extended periods of time (compare: https://masto.host/mastodon-content-retention-settings/ https://masto.host/mastodon-content-retention-settings/ ). Part of the value that people have ascribed to Reddit is being able to do searches for a product review and limit it to just pages served by reddit. Lemmy appears to be ephemeral and not searchable. Discussing the current Star Trek SNW episode may be ok, but reading a discussion from a few years ago about Emissary on DS9 ( https://www.google.com/search?q=deep+space+nine+emissary+site%3Areddit.com https://www.google.com/search?q=deep+space+nine+emissary+sit... ) is something that isn't going to be doable.
seanalltogether 3y ago
I keep giving lemmy a try and I couldn't figure out what was bugging so much about browsing it. I finally realized I'm only seeing about 7 posts per window on lemmy as opposed to 12 on reddit. And now I'm realizing the content box is only 800px wide so comments feel really constrained. This seems like a weird style choice?
- Aachen 3y ago
  This is also one of the main reasons I hate using Signal. It's a tiny css change, but seeing only 4 chats and 6 messages per screen is just way less usable than double the amount on Telegram or Wire. For websites, though, it's a lot easier to add custom css. If that's your main gripe, you're one browser extension away from a fix
  - nomilk 3y ago
    > For websites, it's a lot easier to add custom css ... you're one browser extension away from a fix Any recommendations for chrome/safari extensions? Never done it before but keen to try.
    - dota_fanatic 3y ago
      Not sure about Safari, but Stylus works very well for Chrome/FF. https://chrome.google.com/webstore/detail/stylus/clngdbkpkpeebahjckkjfobafhncgmne https://chrome.google.com/webstore/detail/stylus/clngdbkpkpe...
- camel-cdr 3y ago
  I'm not good enough with css, but I pretty sure if you figure out a more compact design, lemmy-ui will very likely include it.
- cwkoss 3y ago
  With users growing 6x in a week, I imagine we'll start seeing a proliferation of clients in the coming months.
smcleod 3y ago
Looks like it’s down? Or very slow perhaps?
- nonethewiser 3y ago
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  - elaus 3y ago
    The HN hug of death is really not specific to the Fediverse.
  - smcleod 3y ago
    I don’t find the mastodon instance I use to be slow, it’s a heck of a lot faster than say - reddit.
speg 3y ago
I’m getting frustrated with Lemmy. I’ve tried to reply to a post this morning and the submit button just spins. No error, nothing. This is a bad bug, but there are plenty other small things. Like why is “Join Lemmy” link still displayed when I’m logged in? Feels like unbaked software to me. That’s on top of all the multiple federated instances you need to wrap your head around. I’m not sure this can compete :(
- elaus 3y ago
  > Feels like unbaked software to me. I mean... it is. A few weeks ago the user base was very small and there was very little activity on Github (bug reports, feature requests, additional developers). Now there is a flourishing community and a lot of pull requests from new developers, leading to many smaller and bigger improvements. The timing could've been better as the Lemmy devs were in the middle of a bigger refactoring (getting rid of websockets), which hindered development and the release of new versions. But I for once are happy with how active the development is.
- markstos 3y ago
  I read that bug was fixed recently, at least on lemmy.world. They accidentally left federation debugging on, so federating the post was happening in the foreground instead of the background, so your post probably succeeded and you were waiting for federation of the message to complete.
- binwiederhier 3y ago
  > I’m getting frustrated with Lemmy. I am too, but I am sticking with it for now. It is really hard to ignore all the horrible horrible bugs, though. > I’ve tried to reply to a post this morning and the submit button just spins. No error, nothing. I have the same issue. I always always copy the text I've written before submitting on Lemmy, because it happens so often that it just swallows the text and my comment is gone forever. I have noticed that manually setting the language to "English" (below the text box) somehow reduces the failure rate significantly. No idea why. Other things I have issues with: - The "Hot" ordering on my instance is never updated. The newest "Hot" post is 4 days old by now and it never changes anymore. Not sure what happened 4 days ago, but I can only browse by "New" or "Active". The "Active" browsing is dumb, because I think every new comment is bumping it up again, and "New" only gets you the brand new stuff that nobody has commented on yet. "Hot" would really be my preference, but that's broken... - The commenting issues described above. If I don't set the language, I sometimes see "language_not_allowed", and sometimes the text just vanishes. The Android app isn't working anymore because of this. It won't let me set the language and it won't let me post or comment. - Subscribing to other communities is painful. The UX is not there yet. You can't just subscribe. Instead you have to manually copy the URL to the search box and let your instance discover the community, and then you can subscribe. - Missing comments/posts: When subscribing to a new community, you won't ever receive old comments for posts. You'll see new comments come in, but there is no sync mechanism (not even a manual one) to retrieve the old stuff. This leaves you with an incomplete view of the world. - Missing comments/posts (part two): Even if you have subscribed for a long time, comments and post will not have all comments always, either because of a delay of minutes (or hours!), or just because of bugs, idk. It's annoying. - Security: There are some bad security issues [example: https://github.com/LemmyNet/lemmy/issues/3060 https://github.com/LemmyNet/lemmy/issues/3060], which is obvious in the early stages of a piece of complicated software like this. But still. I think the reckoning will come eventually now that Lemmy is on the radar. - Privacy: There are a number of privacy concerns, namely that posts can never truly be deleted, and that things are public that should not be (like likes/dislikes). See https://discuss.ntfy.sh/comment/51609 https://discuss.ntfy.sh/comment/51609 - ... (more, but the post is too long already)
RobotToaster 3y ago
There's a similar list here https://lemmy.fediverse.observer/list https://lemmy.fediverse.observer/list
skyfaller 3y ago
Yet another stats page, this one includes kbin too: https://fedidb.org/current-events/threadiverse https://fedidb.org/current-events/threadiverse Lemmy and kbin are theoretically both compatible with each other, as well as with less-closely related projects like Mastodon, because they are all part of the Fediverse using the same ActivityPub standard protocol. (In practice, there are bugs because this is alpha software, and some aspects of running a link aggregator aren't in the ActivityPub standard and thus implementations differ, but it's really cool when federation works between different codebases.)
nologic01 3y ago
Keep in mind this is not "lemmy vs reddit". Browsing through this index [1] you see moderators and users migrate also to platforms like kbin, discord, discourse and matrix I didn't even know about kbin [2] but it seems like another solid fediverse presence. This multiplicity of platforms (ruby, php, rust, python, go, elixir, you name it) that all adhere to a protocol is intrinsic to this "movement" [3] and it is what makes it vaguely... inspiring. Echoes of an earlier, more optimistic time. [1] https://sub.rehab/ https://sub.rehab/ [2] https://kbin.pub/en https://kbin.pub/en [3] https://fedidb.org/software https://fedidb.org/software
- class4behavior 3y ago
  https://lemmyverse.net/ https://lemmyverse.net/ is also a good place for finding either Lemmy instances or communities while on https://fediverse.party/ https://fediverse.party/ you can find links to the most important resources regarding the main platforms on the fediverse.
agilob 3y ago
Lemmy: the latest news about Reddit

198 points by Paul-Craft 3y ago

~277k users, up from ~51k on June 1 319 nodes, up from 84 on June 1 Sure, this is nothing compared to Reddit's userbase, but we'll see in a couple weeks how big this will get.

ActionHank 3y ago
I've been planning a jump across, but have been waiting it out to see if they see the error of their ways. Thus far they just keep jumping from one awful talking point to the next like a toddler trying to rationalize bad behaviour.
- Paul-Craft 3y ago
  I'm blanking out my 10 year old account (after requesting my data dump) sometime around the first if they don't do something to reverse course.
  - deevious 3y ago
    I requested GDPR exports for my accounts 8 days ago, nothing turned up yet. I have shreddit lined up to run as soon as I get my zips.
    - Paul-Craft 3y ago
      I've heard of multiple people who have done the same and have had the same problem. It seems either so many people are requesting their data that it's bogging down the process, Reddit is deliberately slow-playing it, or both.
    - samstave 3y ago
      Does one have to be an EU citizen to request via GDRP? If so - I made the offer to sell my accounts to any GDRP person for $1 such that I can make those requests for data (ill pay more than $1, its just to make it an actual transaction) I have 17 years of content contributed to reddit... and I'd like to kill it all.
  - accrual 3y ago
    I was curious to see HN's view on removing Reddit account data. I have a couple old accounts (>12 years) with many thousands of comments. My personal perspective is that deleting all these comments, some of which contain technical help, advice, solutions, etc., would really be a net-negative for everyone. I understand wanting to send a message to Reddit leadership, but in reality the blip is so small as to probably not even register. On the other hand, those comments will probably be valuable to someone, somewhere, sometime and all I'd be doing is harming those future readers and salting the metaphorical earth. Looking further into the future, let's assume Reddit collapses in 5 years in 2027. The money is dried up, management is gone, and all that's left are decades of data hopefully archived. Are people 5, 10, 20 years from now going to appreciate that a subset of data was purged in protest? Or are they going to appreciate that they found some useful data still in the archive that might actually help something? I'd rather be in the latter camp. And maybe one day someone will ask their at-home AI bot a question about <niche topic>, and a small part of me will be emitted in the output.
    - Nexxxeh 3y ago
      I've been helped by old posts from others on Reddit and elsewhere. It seems like a dick move to delete mine.
- chongli 3y ago
  I've been planning a jump across I’m not sure why people think of it this way. Why not just create a lemmy account and try it out? There’s no physical stuff to move (unlike moving to a new apartment or house). You’re not required to delete your Reddit account either. Am I missing something here?
  - bigyikes 3y ago
    It’s because Lemmy isn’t actually compelling outside of a few niche circles.
    - chongli 3y ago
      The same can be said about Reddit. I’m not subscribed to any of the big subreddits there. I use it for niche communities. To me, that’s the whole point! Lemmy’s having some growing pains right now (spinning wheel of death) but I’m confident they’ll be resolved. At that point, it’ll be much nicer to use, so I’m pretty happy with that. As for people hoping to one day “jump over,” I think that’s a mistake with almost anything. Dip your toe in, don’t go “all in” on anything you’ve never used before. You’re much less likely to end up extremely disappointed that way.
    - dragontamer 3y ago
      In my experience, private instances of PhpBB forums provide niche webtools that are necessary for community building that Reddit could never replace. The Tetris community created a Javascript gui called Fumen (https://harddrop.com/fumen/ https://harddrop.com/fumen/), that can be embedded into PhpBB forums. The chess community created Javascript GUIs that read/write .pgn files (aka: move-history files) to help the community discuss games. The Go community created a similar GUI for Go games. Etc. etc. ----------- Since the administrator controls the whole webpage (including Javascript), you can host local tools in a Reddit-like environment. I think people are sleeping on the potential here, especially if you've never used these custom web-GUIs before.
  - izzydata 3y ago
    I think those are two independent actions. They would probably delete their reddit data regardless of Lemmy working out or not.
- Aachen 3y ago
  Same-ish, but: I'm not using reddit in the meantime to send a message of "this is what you're looking at when reddit keeps their current plans". I don't know if that's also part of your master plan, but if not, at least if a significant number of people think like that, then reddit has little reason to care. I'm also on Tildes now, probably because of the invite-only FOMO, but a full comparative study (figuring out which lemmy instance to sign up with, as well as looking into other alternatives) is something I'll be forced to do only after June 30th, and I've mastered the art of procrastination so it's not going to be any sooner.
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bogwog 3y ago
It doesn't really matter if lemmy kills reddit. If a new community grows and survives after this whole thing, that's a win for everybody.
- samstave 3y ago
  Im really suprised nobody has recommended Saiddit... however, reddit admins went and setup accounts there early on...
- NoboruWataya 3y ago
  Exactly. To me, all this talk of whether Lemmy will replace Reddit is a distraction. 90% of what is on Reddit is (in my opinion) crap, I would be happy if it stayed on Reddit or went somewhere else entirely. All I want to know is whether Lemmy can reach a critical mass where there is enough going on there that it's worth visiting.
  - JumpCrisscross 3y ago
    > all this talk of whether Lemmy will replace Reddit is a distraction The question is whether it can become a default place to build an online community. Currently, the answer is no unless you have extremely strong ideological coherence that will get your users through the Kafkaesque onboarding process.
    - dragontamer 3y ago
      Beehaw.org has a difficult onboarding process by design. And I welcome their experimentation. But Lemmy.world is... fine-ish? The main issue is the bugs. If the sending of the confirm email fails, the website spins forever without an error. (And it looks like so many "confirm emails' were sent, that Lemmy.world was getting blocked for spam by its provider). If you have an underscore in your username, the signup process hangs and spins forever. If your password is longer than 20 characters or so, the signup process hangs and spins forever. Etc. etc. Its not the best process and these bugs need to be fixed. But if you're like me (who created at the right time with a typical password and typical username), you probably get in to https://lemmy.world https://lemmy.world just fine.
nologic01 3y ago
This is quite remarkable. It not just the numbers. Those are likely opinionated reddit users that will help the platform go faster through its baby steps.

stemlord 3y ago

Would like to see reddit stats

rvz 3y ago
Let's give Lemmy some time to see if people would stick around and abandon Reddit for good in the next 6 months. Then we will see how strong Reddit's network effect is against a new 'alternative' to take a significant amount of Reddit's daily active users.
VWWHFSfQ 3y ago
I'm sure Reddit is prepared for a small contraction in their active userbase while also seeing a significant increase in monetizability of the remaining users.
- Aachen 3y ago
  My thinking as well. Let's encourage everyone to make the exodus not small. Especially when you're a creator, you're an audience multiplier and it's worth pointing people to an alternative social site where they can also find your content. I'd consider myself a creator, but it's all hobby and not commercial in the slightest. If you're commercial, I understand staying on reddit, but at least consider opening up a second profile elsewhere and pointing people there (while continuing to bet on both horses, so the audience can choose and you keep the audience either way).
- randomdata 3y ago
  A small number of users provide what attracts the rest of the userbase. It will be interesting to see which small group leaves.
  - MisterBastahrd 3y ago
    Those users aren't leaving the platform. They have no incentive to do so. Hard to gain imaginary internet points on a slow, broken federated system.
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juujian 3y ago

Could Lemmy have something akin to r/all? I have always used Reddit more to discover new contents, trends, and communities then to check up on communities i already know (with a few exceptions).

rdschouw 3y ago
You mean this? https://lemmy.world/home/data_type/Post/listing_type/All/sort/Hot/page/1 https://lemmy.world/home/data_type/Post/listing_type/All/sor...
- juujian 3y ago
  Yeah, though this is even better: https://lemmy.world/home/data_type/Post/listing_type/All/sort/TopDay/page/1 https://lemmy.world/home/data_type/Post/listing_type/All/sor... Kind of broken though, it keeps showing new posts at the top when they are posted, which should not happen when you sort for Top Posts of the Day. Any place to report bugs?
  - sputter_token 3y ago
    https://github.com/LemmyNet/lemmy/issues https://github.com/LemmyNet/lemmy/issues
- ehutch79 3y ago
  Very memorable.
camel-cdr 3y ago
You filter through all, local and subscribed community posts on your statepage. The sorting in general needs a bit of work though.

teepo 3y ago

Well if we hugged the stats page to death, as it appears to me, some of us will need more context. Like what is Lemmy?

IggleSniggle 3y ago
Lemmy, like kbin or mastodon, is a frontend to federated social media, ie ActivityPub. Lemmy is made to feel more or less like Reddit, while Mastodon is made to feel more or less like Twitter, and kbin is sort of in the middle and feels oriented to news aggregation, but they all interoperate over ActivityPub. "Federated" means someone can pop up an instance, and even if the server isn't hosting any content, it can act your "view" into the fediverse.

garrettjoecox 3y ago

A bit off topic, but why does it seem like not a single page on this site uses caching of any sort? Every time it’s brought up and I click into it I’m met with minute(s) long loading screens. Surely they aren’t pulling all of these stats from every node every single page load right?

taywrobel 3y ago
I don’t think this is off topic, because this is a common theme across all of Lemmy. Not necessarily no caching, but abysmal performance across the board. As much as I want the project to succeed it’s unusable currently, and with more Reddit communities coming back from the blackout, their opportunity to claim the user base in the long run is already passed. The stats over the last month are impressive (if you can get them to load), but it’s going to be a flash in the pan if they can’t make the website function, and I fear the ship has already left the dock.
- raybb 3y ago
  Don't have a link now but as I understand it the main problem is they were using websockets and it didn't scale to so many users. So they're switching to rest api calls and that should fix a lot of the issues. But it's a pretty big switch they've been working hard on.
  - ehutch79 3y ago
    Shouldn't rest (or graphql) be the default? with realtime updates being a progressive enhancement?
    - shagie 3y ago
      Note that what amounts to a single page app with all the links rendered after fetching some data from a service isn't going to be something that can be indexed by a search engine. A google search for site:lemmy.ml with it rendered this way will never result in any data. This may or may not be a good thing since it isn't necessarily assured that the data is stored for extended periods of time (compare: https://masto.host/mastodon-content-retention-settings/ https://masto.host/mastodon-content-retention-settings/ ). Part of the value that people have ascribed to Reddit is being able to do searches for a product review and limit it to just pages served by reddit. Lemmy appears to be ephemeral and not searchable. Discussing the current Star Trek SNW episode may be ok, but reading a discussion from a few years ago about Emissary on DS9 ( https://www.google.com/search?q=deep+space+nine+emissary+site%3Areddit.com https://www.google.com/search?q=deep+space+nine+emissary+sit... ) is something that isn't going to be doable.

seanalltogether 3y ago

I keep giving lemmy a try and I couldn't figure out what was bugging so much about browsing it. I finally realized I'm only seeing about 7 posts per window on lemmy as opposed to 12 on reddit. And now I'm realizing the content box is only 800px wide so comments feel really constrained. This seems like a weird style choice?

Aachen 3y ago
This is also one of the main reasons I hate using Signal. It's a tiny css change, but seeing only 4 chats and 6 messages per screen is just way less usable than double the amount on Telegram or Wire. For websites, though, it's a lot easier to add custom css. If that's your main gripe, you're one browser extension away from a fix
- nomilk 3y ago
  > For websites, it's a lot easier to add custom css ... you're one browser extension away from a fix Any recommendations for chrome/safari extensions? Never done it before but keen to try.
  - dota_fanatic 3y ago
    Not sure about Safari, but Stylus works very well for Chrome/FF. https://chrome.google.com/webstore/detail/stylus/clngdbkpkpeebahjckkjfobafhncgmne https://chrome.google.com/webstore/detail/stylus/clngdbkpkpe...
camel-cdr 3y ago
I'm not good enough with css, but I pretty sure if you figure out a more compact design, lemmy-ui will very likely include it.
cwkoss 3y ago
With users growing 6x in a week, I imagine we'll start seeing a proliferation of clients in the coming months.

smcleod 3y ago

Looks like it’s down? Or very slow perhaps?

nonethewiser 3y ago
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- elaus 3y ago
  The HN hug of death is really not specific to the Fediverse.
- smcleod 3y ago
  I don’t find the mastodon instance I use to be slow, it’s a heck of a lot faster than say - reddit.

speg 3y ago

I’m getting frustrated with Lemmy. I’ve tried to reply to a post this morning and the submit button just spins. No error, nothing. This is a bad bug, but there are plenty other small things. Like why is “Join Lemmy” link still displayed when I’m logged in? Feels like unbaked software to me. That’s on top of all the multiple federated instances you need to wrap your head around. I’m not sure this can compete :(

elaus 3y ago
> Feels like unbaked software to me. I mean... it is. A few weeks ago the user base was very small and there was very little activity on Github (bug reports, feature requests, additional developers). Now there is a flourishing community and a lot of pull requests from new developers, leading to many smaller and bigger improvements. The timing could've been better as the Lemmy devs were in the middle of a bigger refactoring (getting rid of websockets), which hindered development and the release of new versions. But I for once are happy with how active the development is.
markstos 3y ago
I read that bug was fixed recently, at least on lemmy.world. They accidentally left federation debugging on, so federating the post was happening in the foreground instead of the background, so your post probably succeeded and you were waiting for federation of the message to complete.
binwiederhier 3y ago
> I’m getting frustrated with Lemmy. I am too, but I am sticking with it for now. It is really hard to ignore all the horrible horrible bugs, though. > I’ve tried to reply to a post this morning and the submit button just spins. No error, nothing. I have the same issue. I always always copy the text I've written before submitting on Lemmy, because it happens so often that it just swallows the text and my comment is gone forever. I have noticed that manually setting the language to "English" (below the text box) somehow reduces the failure rate significantly. No idea why. Other things I have issues with: - The "Hot" ordering on my instance is never updated. The newest "Hot" post is 4 days old by now and it never changes anymore. Not sure what happened 4 days ago, but I can only browse by "New" or "Active". The "Active" browsing is dumb, because I think every new comment is bumping it up again, and "New" only gets you the brand new stuff that nobody has commented on yet. "Hot" would really be my preference, but that's broken... - The commenting issues described above. If I don't set the language, I sometimes see "language_not_allowed", and sometimes the text just vanishes. The Android app isn't working anymore because of this. It won't let me set the language and it won't let me post or comment. - Subscribing to other communities is painful. The UX is not there yet. You can't just subscribe. Instead you have to manually copy the URL to the search box and let your instance discover the community, and then you can subscribe. - Missing comments/posts: When subscribing to a new community, you won't ever receive old comments for posts. You'll see new comments come in, but there is no sync mechanism (not even a manual one) to retrieve the old stuff. This leaves you with an incomplete view of the world. - Missing comments/posts (part two): Even if you have subscribed for a long time, comments and post will not have all comments always, either because of a delay of minutes (or hours!), or just because of bugs, idk. It's annoying. - Security: There are some bad security issues [example: https://github.com/LemmyNet/lemmy/issues/3060 https://github.com/LemmyNet/lemmy/issues/3060], which is obvious in the early stages of a piece of complicated software like this. But still. I think the reckoning will come eventually now that Lemmy is on the radar. - Privacy: There are a number of privacy concerns, namely that posts can never truly be deleted, and that things are public that should not be (like likes/dislikes). See https://discuss.ntfy.sh/comment/51609 https://discuss.ntfy.sh/comment/51609 - ... (more, but the post is too long already)

RobotToaster 3y ago

There's a similar list here https://lemmy.fediverse.observer/list https://lemmy.fediverse.observer/list

skyfaller 3y ago

Yet another stats page, this one includes kbin too: https://fedidb.org/current-events/threadiverse https://fedidb.org/current-events/threadiverse Lemmy and kbin are theoretically both compatible with each other, as well as with less-closely related projects like Mastodon, because they are all part of the Fediverse using the same ActivityPub standard protocol. (In practice, there are bugs because this is alpha software, and some aspects of running a link aggregator aren't in the ActivityPub standard and thus implementations differ, but it's really cool when federation works between different codebases.)

nologic01 3y ago

Keep in mind this is not "lemmy vs reddit". Browsing through this index [1] you see moderators and users migrate also to platforms like kbin, discord, discourse and matrix I didn't even know about kbin [2] but it seems like another solid fediverse presence. This multiplicity of platforms (ruby, php, rust, python, go, elixir, you name it) that all adhere to a protocol is intrinsic to this "movement" [3] and it is what makes it vaguely... inspiring. Echoes of an earlier, more optimistic time. [1] https://sub.rehab/ https://sub.rehab/ [2] https://kbin.pub/en https://kbin.pub/en [3] https://fedidb.org/software https://fedidb.org/software

class4behavior 3y ago
https://lemmyverse.net/ https://lemmyverse.net/ is also a good place for finding either Lemmy instances or communities while on https://fediverse.party/ https://fediverse.party/ you can find links to the most important resources regarding the main platforms on the fediverse.

agilob 3y ago

Lemmy: the latest news about Reddit