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Reddit Admins are forcing protesting subreddits to open to the public again
- undersuit 3y agoMany subreddits have been forced open in the last few hours. I wonder if r/pics' John Oliver policy will be reversed in the coming days: https://old.reddit.com/r/pics/comments/14bai7s/henceforth_rpics_will_feature_only_images_of_john/ https://old.reddit.com/r/pics/comments/14bai7s/henceforth_rp... Moderators voice their concerns: https://old.reddit.com/r/ModCoord/comments/14bwfai/moderators_voice_concerns_over_reddits/ https://old.reddit.com/r/ModCoord/comments/14bwfai/moderator...
- sschueller 3y agoGood luck, people will continue to post John Oliver and you will have a hard time moderating if the volume keeps up.
- bsder 3y agoYeah, the number of power users posting "good" content (especially after spez effectively fired them) vs the number of randos willing to shove garbage into the group simply for the lulz is going to overrun Reddit. Without the cooperation of the mods, you'll never clean the garbage up.
- 8note 3y agoI'm sure auto-mod will be tuned to take down all pictures of John Oliver
- Gigachad 3y agoThat's what I thought might happen. Reopen, but moderate in a stupid way which is compliant with the Reddit ToS but which devalues the platform. Only remove sitewide content violations while allowing all kinds off topic and garbage content.
- rvz 3y agoThis all shows who really has power and it always has been the owners of Reddit.com, unsurprisingly. Since these subreddits were never 'owned' in the first place, such things like this was always possible and these 'protests' (on someone else's website) are just futile and the owners do. not. care and will seize control by force. This 'protest' has already failed right from the beginning. A test of power that resulted in a crushing defeat for the so-called 'protestors' with little effort from the owners. Did they really think they had any chance against the actual real owners of Reddit?
- bleepblop 3y agoBest way to protest is to walk away.
- psychphysic 3y agoAnd live a good life!
- crmrc114 3y agoI am so tired of people depending on others hosting their content. If your going to pay a website for something consider self hosting. I hate the modren lack of genetic diversity in the web. I used to spend hours on topic specific sites and forums. Well before wikipedia, reddit, twitter and facebook. Something something old man yells at clouds. I hate how the internet has become a handful of large sites to the average american. Shamelessly going to plug that projects like mastodon and Lemmy have been super fun and I really hope it's a direction we start seeing people move. Simple federated sites without some cryptobro vapourware.
- Gigachad 3y agoFederation has too many major UX issues that don't seem to have easy solutions. Even email, the oldest example, is becoming more centralised. Users would rather hop platforms to use the centralized platform of the year over using some complex gnu social media.
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- hax0ron3 3y agoIn the brief war between the Spez regime and the mod putschists, the regime has achieved complete and crushing victory. The shattered remnants of the putschist forces are retreating across the battlefield. Many are turning over their weapons and agreeing to the regime's amnesty terms. Meanwhile the average Reddit user is either mocking one or one both sides or is just obliviously wondering why he heard some noise in the distance on Reddit the last few days.
- gigglesupstairs 3y agoI like whatever this is haha
- pram 3y agoLet us raise the banner of Reddit ever higher, under the tutelage of comrade Spez!
- goochin 3y ago[flagged]
- ng12 3y agoYeah, let my village get purged in peace!
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- snypher 3y agoOthers ride for the horizon and will never be seen on Reddit again.
- riku_iki 3y agohow significant is the share of those?..
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- amatecha 3y agoNot going to click through a link to Reddit, so I don't know what's mentioned in there, but here are a couple examples and related discussions... r/steam: https://lemmy.world/post/239075 https://lemmy.world/post/239075 r/piracy: https://lemmy.dbzer0.com/post/35555 https://lemmy.dbzer0.com/post/35555 r/antiwork: https://infosec.exchange/@vertana/110557520854046992 https://infosec.exchange/@vertana/110557520854046992 r/pics: https://lemmy.world/post/206930 https://lemmy.world/post/206930
- bsder 3y agoIf you're on a different lemmy instance, how do you translate these links to local ones? This is really the only problem I've been struggling with on lemmy. Otherwise, the experience has been okay. Teething pains, sure, but most of those are getting resolved in real time. And, if the "external reddit app" people all start developing their app for lemmy instead, holy cow, that's going to put a lot of programmer hours into it. Reddit may go down a lot faster than I expected. I really expected spez to win this one simply by holding his breath and running to the IPO. However, things are kinda collapsing faster than I expected. Edit: Nope: search didn't work for the lemmy.world one. Presumably that only works if someone on your instance has already pulled in the group to your instance.
- amstan 3y agoYou literally search for the link in your local instance. It'll figure it out.
- bsder 3y agoThe lemmy.world one did not come up in search. Apparently, someone on your instance has to have pulled in that group for the search to work. My question still stands: How do you view a link on a foreign instance on your home instance?
- Gigachad 3y agoThese kinds of UX problems have been plaguing federated platforms for a while now. Feels like the alternatives have bitten off more than they can chew. It would have been nice if someone had built something like old reddit or voat but banning the racists. None of these platforms feel like actual alternatives to reddit.
- goochin 3y agoGood, there's no reason why a handful of moderators should ruin things for all the users in each subreddit. It's nothing more than vandalism.
- psychphysic 3y agoIn 2020 it would have made sense as it was the mods sub. In 2023 it doesn't make sense as the mods are free labour to Reddit Inc.
- Tyrubias 3y agoNo, it’s the exploitation by Reddit of free labor.
- goochin 3y agoIf these mods don't like it, they can withdraw their labour and walk away, let someone else do the work. Ruining things for everyone else who wants to participate in a subreddit is just abusive.
- paddim8 3y agoReddit are ruining things for a significant portion of the users that contribute with high quality content.
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- paulpauper 3y agoReddit communities are the property of reddit, so this is not too much of a surprise. Admins > mods / users.
- kingofpandora 3y agoSurely mods / users < 1 so that equation shouldn't surprise anyone.
- DropInIn 3y agoThe subreddit is theirs on the tech side, but by nature of US Copyright law as pushed for by much bigger beasts than Reddit the content is not thiers they simply have a licence to use it, a licence which can be revoked at any time due to the lack of 'consideration' (payment). Even the fundamentals of a sub, the topic title rules etc are copyright if the mod who wrote them, not of Reddit. And since large scale changes are required to negate copyright there's little chance any extant sub could remain of the mods and users of that sub chose to revoke the licence. Right?
- clnq 3y agoCan someone explain to me why losing mod powers is such a big deal? I'm assuming those who have been moderating these communities can put it on their resume or whatever and apply for paid community manager roles to do the same thing? I'm not being sarcastic and I am fairly far detached from the Reddit drama. Just trying to understand the value that exists in moderating a Reddit community for free. It seems threatening to take it away is making them compromise on their values quite effectively.
- jassyr 3y agoMany mods of larger subs make money through various sponsorship/kickback schemes. Example, https://www.blackhatworld.com/seo/how-to-bribe-reddit-mods.1473947/ https://www.blackhatworld.com/seo/how-to-bribe-reddit-mods.1...
- clnq 3y agoOf all the reasons I've read, this one seems most plausible, as it involves actual personal gains.
- amstan 3y ago"You'll be paid in exposure."
- boneitis 3y agoI'm just a spectator, watching out of morbid curiosity after having watched the Libera/freenode saga play out. I'm not super emotionally invested in the final outcome, as much as I believe reddit and the CEO are torching a valuable marvel of humanity without an ounce of ???? (I'm seriously speechless) but instead with utter tonedeafness and serial doubledowns. (Although, I cared enough to edit out my comment history by hand in support, since my overall count isn't high.) /caveats /disclaimers "It's a private||public company that answers to its shareholders||board." Fine. > why [is] losing mod powers [..] such a big deal? You're doing a disservice to the protesting by reducing their message to "drama" over having their moderator positions seized. "[A] reddit community" alone is as many different things as there are the number of subreddits, to the same broad degree as your label just trivialized them. (e: last P. hopefully now sounding more discussive and less accusatory)
- manvillej 3y agoI know the whole Spez is trash and doing scummy business things. but for mods, it boils down to this: reddit does not provide the tools to manage the communities. if it had provided good tools, then mods would be using them and not 3rd party tools. So, the best way to effectively manage these communities is to keep them private. invite only. that is the only means they have to effectively manage these communities. Till they create comparable tools, they have no right to ask mods to open up those communities