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Agreed. I am married and have meaning of my life pretty much figured out, but I do play games and watch anime on the side. The biggest problem with average con
by mordae 3y ago
Agreed. I am married and have meaning of my life pretty much figured out, but I do play games and watch anime on the side.
The biggest problem with average contemporary "true adults" is that they only act as if they have their shit figured out. In reality they mostly tend to be incredibly close minded, have super limited knowledge of the world due to their TV addiction and are generally more authoritarian due to our socioeconomic system being super authoritarian.
The (more intelligent and cultured) outliers are actually closer to these supposed "kidults". More open minded, more tolerant, way less zealous.
- nsxwolf 3y agoI think we enjoy pathologizing choices we don't make and lifestyles we don't understand. So a non-gamer might see the adult gamer as infantilized, while the gamer sees the the non-gamer as a victim of an authoritarian socioeconomic system, or something. I'm not convinced either person is correct about anything. They probably would drop those thoughts if they got off social media and got to know each other instead.
- MikeTheRocker 3y ago100% agree here
- systems_glitch 3y agoPretty much this. This isn't real. It's not who we are.
- 0xr0kk3r 3y agoThe boomers were all about not selling out until they did and became the Man. GenX are now wrinkly tattooed grey hairs that still wear skater clothes while eyeing their 401ks.
- systems_glitch 3y ago"I thought we were all slacking off together. but you all went out and got jobs while I was sleeping."
- d0gsg0w00f 3y agoOpen minded and contributing less to society or closed minded and contributing more. Which is more valuable to society overall? Tough question. It's easy to be open minded when nothing is at stake. As soon as you have something to protect the game changes drastically. You start eliminating ideas from your head that provide no value. For example, someone who works retail and plays video games and opines on the way the world should work vs someone who works as a nurse raising two kids and doesn't have time to opine and instead just wants to put a conservative in office to lower their taxes. Neither is right or wrong but one has a more measurable external impact.
- neilv 3y ago> It's easy to be open minded when nothing is at stake. As soon as you have something to protect the game changes drastically. This is true, and we should try to be wiser as we learn more about the world, not just flip to a different flavor of simple-minded reactionary.
- lcnPylGDnU4H9OF 3y agoI’m confused about your example; who is closed-minded and who is open-minded? (Serious question) I otherwise disagree with the dichotomy in the first paragraph. It seems to me that one might be open-minded and contributory. On the topic of “opining vs. voting”: what’s the difference? Additionally, couldn’t the retail employee go vote and have the same sort of measurable external impact? I guess I’ll attempt to answer the question in the comment: all else being equal, an open-minded person is more valuable to society than a closed-minded one.
- andrewjl 3y agoA curious choice of examples. What about someone who is open minded and as a result builds or invents something new that substantially improves peoples lives?
- watwut 3y agoConsidering the debate is about choice of the entertainment, neither close minded nor open minded are contributing anything. That part is about what people do to relax.
- hn_thrwn 3y ago[flagged]
- K0balt 3y agoIdk. I think that view of adulthood is pretty biased. I think it is more that the “games” that we play become less overt, and overt games tend to be replaced by covert ones, such as social stature, and personal growth, IRL social “games”, like relationships and solo or shared challenges, “levelling up” in accomplishments such as books written or papers published, business or notable accomplishments, etc. Overt games give way to applying learned behaviours that use game theory to create personal value, wealth, or legacy… but it’s still very much “playing a game” just with greater risks and rewards. IRL games make practice games seems quite boring by comparison, their challenges mundane and their prizes irrelevant.
- zer0tonin 3y agoWhat am I supposed to do with wealth if I shouldn't use it to purchase it the childish things that I enjoy?
- K0balt 3y agoIdk, use it to make the world a more just and survivable place? Help to develop practical fusion power so we can avoid extinction? Preserve some biodiversity? Anything vaguely useful to the next generation? Nations prosper when old men plant trees under whose shade they will never sit.
- zer0tonin 3y agoEven Bezos amounts of money won't achieve any of the things you've listed.
- kbelder 3y agoHe listed three things, and two of them are pretty easy: >Preserve some biodiversity? Anything vaguely useful to the next generation? Fusion is harder, but hey.
- K0balt 3y agoYou don’t have to do it big, just do it small. You aren’t making landfills, you don’t need to save a forest. Make a little house for solitary bees on your windowsill. Guerilla plant a tree once a week. Flower-bomb some vacant lots for the local bees. Create something useful that reduces wasteful consumption, and open source it to the world. The key here is that everything I mentioned is a positive motion. It creates something new that is useful. You cannot create a worthwhile world just by using public transportation or biking instead of driving. Sure, reducing your footprint matters, but it will go to zero when you die anyway. Do things that can transcend your tiny life, do them frequently, and some of them actually will. All of those things are doable with minimal effort, and everyone who does those kinds of things it changes the world in significant ways.
- CatWChainsaw 3y agoChildren aren't equipped to understand the world to the same depth as adults. As society becomes more complex and your role in it becomes more specialized, adults too lose the ability to grasp the entire thing.