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Gandi.net – Pricing Update
- Hoasi 3y agoTheir No Bullshit days are over for good. Thank you, and goodbye, Gandi!
- breput 3y agoThe text in the link was sent to Gandi users via email today, although they purposefully buried the significant domain registration price increases with the GandiMail bs text. The actual price increases are listed here[0]. For example, currently a .com domain can be renewed for $17.75/year (tax inclusive - I personally renewed a .com domain for the maximum of 4 years tonight). After the increase this will be $23.99/year (26% increase). I've been a long time (sometime prior to 2007) Gandi customer and ignored previous discussion concerns[1], but this will be the last time I renew my domains with Gandi. The v4->v5 user interface change was painful at first, but they have fixed most of those UX issues - at least as far as the DNS support, which is all I really use. But their service is definitely not worth the premium. [0] https://www.gandi.net/static/documents/2023-july-usd-renew-price-increase.pdf https://www.gandi.net/static/documents/2023-july-usd-renew-p... [1] https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=35080777 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=35080777
- Anthony-G 3y agoI can see how for some people, it might make sense to pay the higher prices if they also get value from their email services and/or DNS hosting. I run my own name server on my VPS so I chose Gandi because they provide free secondary name servers – but then discovered that their secondary name servers don’t support NOTIFY (or IXFR). Instead they make an AXFR transfer on a fixed schedule – that’s too slow for Let’s Encrypt DNS authentication. So far, I’ve stayed with them because I don’t have many domains registered and I appreciate their commitment to security of user accounts: the ability to lock domains, and MFA support. These are now standard but I also have my account to set up to only allow logins from various IP network ranges. Edit: Also, their web interface for managing domains was intuitive and easy-to-use (no dark patterns). It was particularly easy to configure glue records for my primary name server.
- account42 3y agoSame situation here. I don't think I'll be eating these price increases. Never tried a domain transfer before. First time for everything I guess.
- f137 3y agoDo you happen to know what are Grilles / Grids in the price list?
- branon 3y agoI also have no clue what these mean, kinda driving me crazy, let me know if you find out
- efournie 3y agoThey offer different rates based on the previous purchases volume: https://docs.gandi.net/en/billing/price_rates/index.html https://docs.gandi.net/en/billing/price_rates/index.html
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- nubinetwork 3y ago$18 for a .com is pricy enough as it is... you can get them for much cheaper.
- mdrzn 3y ago.com are $9.73 / year on PorkBun, and they renews at $9.73 Not affiliated, just a happy customer.
- dieters 3y agoI love Porkbun too. I don't generally praise companies online, but their prices and UX are just so good and effortless...
- r-spaghetti 3y agoI'm fan of Porkbun.com too. Low prices and more important, smooth working services.
- bsagdiyev 3y agoI moved to Porkbun after some HN post a few months back, just a single .me domain but it was quick and easy. Happy so far.
- kup0 3y agoAgreed, Porkbun is so reasonable I've purchased extra domains I don't even really need
- SCdF 3y agoThey got me, I thought the price hikes were specifically for things I didn't care about, because of all of the gandimail stuff. Without HN I wouldn't have even noticed. Looking at my last invoice, I paid ~£26/year for a .info domain. If I'm reading this right, it's now ~£36/yr. That's a ~40% increase. Glad I renewed for nine years last year.
- huhtenberg 3y ago> Glad I renewed for nine years last year. Given the speed with which Gandi is circling down the drain I won't be surprised if they annul that renewal at some point later on.
- Macha 3y agoAren't domain registrations ultimately kept by the registry (e.g. Verisign for .com) not the registrar. If you transfer your domain, you don't forfeit far out expiry dates?
- CydeWeys 3y agoThey can't. The registration expiration date is managed at the registry (and they've already paid the registry for all of those years).
- r-spaghetti 3y agoBetter check this at the registry. I've noticed that this group of companies has a new policy regarding domain renewal: let the client pay at date X and update the registry just within hours before the domain expires. Paying 9 nine years in advance might just result in the obligation of this company to renew the domain 9 times for you, unless you move out of course.... Dark patterns is becoming the standard.
- CydeWeys 3y agoThis seems like it would be a violation of the registry's/ICANN's contract. Do you have more info on this?
- quercusa 3y agoThanks, I missed that too as I was focused on the email stuff.
- r1ch 3y agoThis is on top of them being 100% more expensive for some TLDs than their competitors. Sadly it looks like it's time to find a new registrar.
- KomoD 3y ago$17.75 and $23.99 are both insane, I pay $9.15/yr
- apple4ever 3y agoHoly moly yes those prices are wild. I pay something similar for dot com. I just looked and dot io is $70 a year! I pay around $40.
- aendruk 3y agoNo forewarning, no post on the website, no justification, and the nasty news buried in the middle of unrelated text. It appears designed to deceive. “No bullshit” is no more. https://www.gandi.net/en/no-bullshit https://www.gandi.net/en/no-bullshit That promise is what justified their slightly higher prices. With it broken, I have no reason not to transfer to a less expensive registrar. So that I’ve now done, and Gandi can try to win me back next year.
- pcthrowaway 3y agoThey sent out an email to their existing customers, and the price increase won't be announced til July 13
- xoa 3y agoFWIW I've been a customer of Gandi.net for something like a decade now with a number of domains and many email accounts. This morning is the very first email I received from them on this (at 0025 EST this morning). I got no message about any previous email changes either. And my domain admin contact is not uniform either, email accounts there are across four different services including theirs, MXroute and GSuite. Not a spam filter issue. So yes, this feels pretty sudden here. That may or may not have been some sort of further screwup on their part, just a data point that notifications have not been uniform.
- lgvld 3y agoYes, absolutely. Notification has been delayed for customers in some countries (not UK especially) it seems. French customer here btw.
- aendruk 3y agoYou’re right, there is one month of warning; I’d misread July for June. If I could I’d just edit out that complaint as the timing is secondary to their deceptive messaging around domain registration price increases. The dark pattern seems to have worked as many here are still discussing only the mail hosting announcement in which the change to their core service was buried.
- azepoi 3y agoWhat's a good alternative registrar based in the EU? What an unethical move, they rescind already paid contracts/accounts and the price hike is insane. The went from "no BS" to full of it. I intend to move all my domains. I also paid for the "premium" email service. But it went from 25€ per year to 86€ ! Domains are also getting a price hike and web hosting too. Time to move
- dna_polymerase 3y agoI keep recommending iwantmyname, which is not Europe-based (NZ actually), but founded by some guys from Austria. I've been a customer for ten years now, and I haven't seen a nasty ReactJS redesign, or any other BS. Just a good registrar.
- KomoD 3y agoWhat makes it worth the price? $19.99/yr for a .com is very expensive.
- tga 3y agoThey have really high prices for some TLDs for some reason. A .re domain is €14.28 with Gandi and €43.99 with iwantmyname.
- seszett 3y agoiwantmyname seems to be more expensive than Gandi, even after the price hike though.
- demurgos 3y agoI've been using OVH for over 10 years and I'm pretty happy with them.
- pzduniak 3y agoBe wary of their support. Their services are hit or miss (and the misses are REALLY bad) and I experience complete incompetence on their side in both CA and PL.
- midasuni 3y agoIf I remember rightly aws/route53 use Gandi, presumably will affect them too
- acatton 3y agoYes. In some instances. https://aws.amazon.com/route53/domain-registration-agreement/ https://aws.amazon.com/route53/domain-registration-agreement... > AWS provides the Domain Name Registration Services through ICANN-accredited registrars. AWS currently provides Domain Name Registration Services through Gandi SAS , Mesh Digital Limited, Amazon Registrar, Inc., and other ICANN-accredited registrars (the “Registrar”), and your use of the Domain Name Registration Services is subject to their terms.
- serhack_ 3y agohttps://archive.is/U6rq9 https://archive.is/U6rq9
- roomey 3y agoAny reccomended alternatives? I've used them because they seemed the most reputable in the murky world of domain name providers.
- drcongo 3y agoI quite like Porkbun and IWantMyName - both very much BS-free.
- monkey_monkey 3y agoCloudflare (although they don't cover all the TLDs)
- plantroon 3y agoWedos. I migrated my domains from namecheap due to their problematic setting of glue records for IPv6. I'd say Wedos is no-bs enough. I hope referral is not a problem on HN: https://www.wedos.com/?ap=Fy1vRJ https://www.wedos.com/?ap=Fy1vRJ
- hgsgm 3y ago> problematic setting of glue records for IPv6. What's this?
- plantroon 3y agoWhenever I needed to change IPv6 glue records I had to contact support. And even after that, the webUI did not reflect the current configuration, so I couldn't even change IPv4 glue records after that. Other than that I was ok with namecheap.
- shaunpud 3y agoNameSilo
- mdrzn 3y agoPorkBun seems cheaper to me, and I haven't had an issue.
- mrtksn 3y agoIs there a tangible advantage of using one registrar over the other?
- abcd_f 3y agoPricing, stability and security. As per usual.
- hgsgm 3y agoWhat makes a domain registration unstable or insecure?
- simmons 3y agoThere are probably many valid answers to this, but my concern would be about bugs or other security failings allowing an attacker to alter one's registration details (e.g. nameservers). This could be catastrophic, since everyone seems to base their security on email (e.g. password resets) these days, in true "pass the hard problem of identity and authentication on to someone else" fashion. In other words, whoever controls the registration controls the nameservers, and whoever controls the nameservers controls the MX records, and whoever controls the MX records can reset passwords. (Ideally, we'd all be using MFA for every possible thing, but in practice that may not be possible for the hundreds of services one might be using.)
- npteljes 3y agoI haven't noticed much, managing my own domains and some low traffic third parties. I have experience with namecheap, 101domains, gandi, godaddy, and others I can't remember from the top of my head. The most tangible for me is the web interface they give you - I like gandi's the most, and there are some shitty providers that don't even have one. Otherwise they are similar, they reserve the domain for you, let you set it up and provide nameservers so that you don't have to host those. Another difference is how much their website, and their renewal flow makes you hate life with all the dark patterns they employ. Godaddy and 101 were quite horrible in this regard, I really needed to double-check before paying that they haven't slipped in a value-add that I don't need, but would cost me nevertheless. Again, gandi is one of the better ones in this regard too. Gandi also has a nice API to manage the domains. I use that with a simple shell script to have my own dynamic DNS. So if your usage is as limited as mine, no major differences really.
- littlestymaar 3y agoIncreasing their already high price feel very ironic considering that Laurent Chemla, one of the founder of Ghandi wrote a book (Confessions d'un voleur, literally “confessions of a thief”) in which he admits than domain names registrar are selling trivial stuff with a very high premium: > Je dois livrer un chiffre qui, s’il n’est pas confidentiel, mérite cependant le détour. […] Le coût réel de l’enregistrement d’un nom dans la base de données mondiale, y compris le coût de fonctionnement d’une telle base, a été évalué en 1999 à... trente cents. > […] Et parmi ceux que l’ICANN a choisis pour participer à ce jeu, il y a une petite SARL bien française, Gandi, créée pour l’occasion par quatre fous qui ne comprenaient pas que l’on puisse vendre aussi cher un objet somme toute totalement virtuel. Et moi je suis l’un de ces fous qui, depuis plus d’un an maintenant, vend du vent lui aussi. Ce que NSI vend toujours trente-cinq dollars, Gandi le vend douze euros après l’avoir acheté au prix de gros (six dollars) à NSI. Et ça rapporte énormément, de vendre du vent summary: in 1999, the per-domain cost for a registrar was around $0.3, NSI sold it to its customers around $35, and had to sell it to $6 to its competitors, and Gandi sold it for twice as much, with almost zero expenses on their side. source: http://www.confessions-voleur.net/confessions.pdf http://www.confessions-voleur.net/confessions.pdf p123-125
- rurban 3y agoOk, this broke the camels back. Moved my domains to namecheap now.
- shiftpgdn 3y agoNamecheap is significantly worse than Gandi and amongst the absolute bottom feeder domain providers. I'd recommend cancelling your transfer ASAP.
- rurban 3y agoI'm already using freenom, namecheap, gandi and the big bad one which partnered with cPanel, godaddy. Godaddy is the bottom feader, gandi was the best, but now with these prices I've switched.
- hgsgm 3y agoWhat's wrong with namecheap?
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- mynameisvlad 3y agoThere is nothing wrong with Namecheap as a registrar. Some people have strong stances because they chose not to continue supporting Russian sites last year: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=30504812 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=30504812
- hgsgm 3y agoAnd yet for the last 5 years (recently confirmed it still happens) they have been calling themself "#1 Host Russia":-o https://www.reddit.com/r/NameCheap/comments/7o0hid/transferred_to_namecheap_1_host_russia_inc/ https://www.reddit.com/r/NameCheap/comments/7o0hid/transferr...
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- gettodachoppa 3y agoI have a single domain with 2 emails on it. What's the cheapest migration option for mail? I want to use a company with human tech support in case something goes wrong one day. No tech giants.
- alexghr 3y agoI've been using PurelyMail[1] (it's been on hacker news a couple of times already) for about a year now and haven't had any issues with it. It uses consumption-based pricing so for my use (with two domains set up) it comes out to about $0.5/month. I think it's a small team (maybe just one person?) that maintains it. [1]: https://purelymail.com/ https://purelymail.com/
- tomkarho 3y agoI've been a satisfied Fastmail customer for a couple of years but this looks mighty enticing to switch over. $10 a year OR pay as you go.
- em-bee 3y agothis is the kind of pricing i have been looking for. i have a few accounts that are extremely low use because they serve as a backup to other channels, so with the advanced payment model i'd actually even save money over gandi's old pricing.
- zhte415 3y agoAnother vote for Purelymail. Pricing is great. Easy to setup. It just works. Plus they have a mail migration tool.
- I_complete_me 3y agoIt looks like there is a bus factor of 1. Is this not a concern for you?
- velosol 3y agoI've been pretty happy with mailbox.org, German based and has support for various keys to use with custom domains (SPF/DKIM) including the ability to have the same custom domain used across multiple accounts (nice for extended family domains and the like, safe as you still need to make the DNS changes on that provider). Pricing is reasonable and the limited support interaction I've had has been good. The webmail seems to be OX [1]. [1]: https://www.open-xchange.com/ https://www.open-xchange.com/
- basemi 3y agoI had 1 domain + 3 mailboxes with them. Leaved 3 months ago for njalla (domain only) and tutanota
- SideburnsOfDoom 3y agoI have a domain registered on Gandi.net and email @mydomain.com also on Gandi.net I am loath to abandon it as I use it for numerous accounts and contacts. Will tutanota support webmail and app for that domain?
- sandstrom 3y agoThey got bought out by a PE firm that's gobbling up registrars, DNS providers and similar. Mostly a moneygrab, so expect prices to increase and product/tech to deteriorate. I love capitalism in general, but PE firms are mostly a net-negative. They try to squeeze profit out of a company while owning it for 3-5 years, and then selling it at a higher multiple. They usually do this by cutting R&D, jacking up prices and cutting costs (for example moving HQ to some remote area, losing half of staff in the process, but hey, costs are down in Q3…). Good firms are those that have stable owners and leadership over 20+ years. At that time span, it's obvious that short-sighted cost cutting and customer-hostile behavior is just stupid, which is why fewer such firms does it.
- thesnide 3y agoDepends on which perspective. On the firm perspective, it is stupid. On a "grasshopper leader" it is very clever, as they don't plan to be accountable for the long run anyway.
- KomoD 3y ago> They got bought out by a PE firm that's gobbling up registrars, DNS providers and similar. Mostly a moneygrab, so expect prices to increase and product/tech to deteriorate. They were bought again.
- kar1181 3y agoGandi are so gross. Had an issue 5 years back now where their site/my connection glitched and they double charged me. It was the most confrontational support exchange I've had (even to this day), and in the end had to go the chargeback route and move my domains off their service. Never quite understood it as the attitude persisted even as my complaint was (apparently) escalated. The chargeback itself sent them into orbit.
- codetrotter 3y agoI got an email from Gandi earlier today and it was talking about their commitment to providing best tools and blah blah blah. I didn’t bother to read the thing. But after seeing this headline on HN, I realised that actually that email was probably about a pricing update. Went back to my inbox and sure enough, the subject of the email says pricing update. Anyway, it seems to be mainly about DNS and email services, etc, none of which I use. I only use Gandi as registrar for domain names. And then for the DNS I use Cloudflare. For email I use iCloud.
- em-bee 3y agodomain prices increase too. some doubled. check your domains
- thesnide 3y agoAny "commitment to providing best tools" is always about increasing the price, so nothing new. The fact that it doubled is bad, but I guess everyone will vote with their wallet and market will regulate itself.
- codetrotter 3y agoThe sad thing is that I've been very happy with Gandi for a long time. If I were to leave them, I don't even know who I would turn to instead. GoDaddy? Hell naw. Google Domains? No thanks. Cloudflare Registrar? Rather not put all my eggs in one basket. Plus, I don't necessarily trust Cloudflare to be registrar for my domains altough I am happy to use their DNS service and their Cloudflare Pages service.
- em-bee 3y agosame here, i feel i am at a loss for options. gandi was always very community friendly, and the ability to allow anyone to pay to renew a domain is a very useful feature especially for communities. we even had gandi people show up at our linux user group meetings when they were in town for other business, and they didn't come to sell stuff, but to hang out and have a good time.
- Perdu 3y agoTo give an idea of the prices increase, I listed previous and future prices for some TLDs. These are renewal prices in euro for A rate. Current prices: https://www.gandi.net/pdf/en/Gandi_Domain_Prices_EUR_A_NOVAT.pdf https://www.gandi.net/pdf/en/Gandi_Domain_Prices_EUR_A_NOVAT... (second column) Futur prices: https://www.gandi.net/static/documents/2023-july-eur-renew-price-increase.pdf https://www.gandi.net/static/documents/2023-july-eur-renew-p... - .cloud : 21.13 -> 29.99 - .com : 15.51 -> 19.99 - .dev : 14.01 -> 19.99 - .es : 12.47 -> 19.99 - .eu : 13.90 -> 19.99 - .gr : 12.47 -> 19.99 - .info : 26.75 -> 34.99 - .io : 49.00 -> 59.99 - .net : 18.99 -> 24.99 - .nl : 14.04 -> 19.99 - .org : 16.22 -> 19.99 - .page : 14.13 -> 19.99 - .quebec : 33.30 -> 39.99 - .social : 40.06 -> 49.99 - .us : 13.30 -> 19.99
- switch007 3y agoAt this point it would be news that a company /doesn’t/ hike their prices 10-30% every 6-12 months
- fmajid 3y agoI'd switched registrars to Gandi as a form of protest when the US seized the domains of a UK travel agency that advertised tours of Cub. Because Gandi is based in France, it is not subject to US extraterritorial overreach. I stayed despite their higher prices because of good security like using FIDO U2F keys, so less likely to have an account hijacked, as I self-host my email and that is probably the single biggest point of failure in my threat model. Can anyone recommend a registrar outside the US that has decent security? Some mentioned OVH and their CTO is a classmate of mine, but the French government is showing worrisome authoritarian trends and I'd prefer a country with strong protections for freedom of speech like Iceland or Norway or that has strong regulation of its spooks like Germany (because of their experience with the Stasi).
- fckthisguy 3y agoSwiss companies have a history of telling the US gov to pound dust. There's a list of Swiss based registrars (that provide .ch domains) maintained by the .ch NIC: https://www.nic.ch/registrars https://www.nic.ch/registrars
- hgsgm 3y agoIt's not overreach to enforce US law on individuals using US systems. (.com is in US jurisdiction). That's regular reach. https://www.google.com/amp/s/arstechnica.com/information-technology/2008/03/us-interferes-with-travel-to-cuba/amp/ https://www.google.com/amp/s/arstechnica.com/information-tec...
- f137 3y agoFWIW, "Pricing Update" is literally the subject of the email they sent today.
- beebeepka 3y agoSo, domain renewal for .com is now 18.61 euro and I will have to pay for the email after the current expiration dat? This is some major BS.
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- hgsgm 3y agoI moved to Namecheap when Gandi moved to website "v4" and set up a nonfunctional 2FA system so I couldn't log in. Existing years of registration transfer, minimum 1 additional year required purchase for migration. The website actually works. Namecheap's legal name shows up as "! #1 Host Russia, Inc", which is a bit weird, especially this year, as their customer support org is in Ukraine.
- Tutanota 3y agoHi, Tutanota team here. In case you're looking for a new mailbox, Tutanota might be an option. We've also had a pricing update recently, but legacy users are allowed to keep what they have in full. Plus, we have a 50% offer running at the moment: https://tutanota.com/blog/announcement-new-prices https://tutanota.com/blog/announcement-new-prices
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- adapa 3y agoI have Used your service and Liked it but To this day i cannot wrap my head around the fact that i cannot bulk export my emails. The vendor lock in is huge and the feature has been in progress for very long time and i decided it was not worth the wait and left the service since tutanota does not allow IMAP. What a shame.
- Tutanota 3y agoBy now you can bulk export entire folders with an even easier multi-select function: https://tutanota.com/faq#generalMail https://tutanota.com/faq#generalMail I hope this helps!
- mongrelion 3y agoGreat to see you guys here. I have been considering moving my mailbox to Tutanota but last time I checked it was not possible to import emails. What's the progress on that?
- Tutanota 3y agoWe are already working on import and are making nice progress: https://twitter.com/TutanotaTeam/status/1651944687488446467 https://twitter.com/TutanotaTeam/status/1651944687488446467 However, there's a lot work left to be done as we do not want to simply dump all the emails in one folder, but match the folders that you had used previously. Because of this, the release is a few more months into the future. Thanks for your patience!
- BillLumbergh 3y agoI moved over to Porkbun from Gandi a few years back and they've been way better and no-nonsense for sure.
- dpcx 3y agoIt's especially frustrating for me since they're the only registrar to support my chosen TLD of .cx :/
- mminer237 3y agoNo it's not…? https://tld-list.com/tld/cx https://tld-list.com/tld/cx
- electrotype 3y agoIt may be obvious for some, but I'd like to be sure: It's the free "2 mailboxes" included with each domain registration that are soon removed? I would have to pay for those 2 mail addresses associated with my domain if I stay with Gandi, is that correct? (I do not use there web interfaces, I access my accounts via POP3/IMAP)
- electrotype 3y agoI guess I have my answer here (link suggested by another user here): https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=35080777 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=35080777
- conradfr 3y agoAs a French it's sad to see one of the staple of the early French web tech go but it was expected when they got bought. I must say the "free" emails were nice to send low-volume emails from my side-projects. I will probably move my domains to Infomaniak, they have a good reputation.
- sylware 3y agoGandi registrar client here: never heard of this. never got any email about this. Using gandi because it handles my-country-specific payment systems (aka no credit card to provide online, and no need of a big tech web engine, like steam wallet codes).
- trollied 3y agoI recently migrated my domains to a different registrar, after years of happily using them. I imagine I'm not the only one.
- petecooper 3y agoI moved all but one of my domains from Gandi to Porkbun, it's been a joy since. I'm in the UK, and the US pricing is favourable even with the credit card currency fee. The only domain I have left at Gandi is a .ag (since Porkbun don't do .ag) and an orphaned .eu (because Brexit took that from me). There's nothing I can do with the .eu, so that's gonna languish until 2027. The .ag domain is going up from 79EUR to 95EUR soon. Time to find a new registrar for that straggler. Even though I can renew at 79EUR now I'm inclined to take the renewal somewhere else. Edit: could be a coincidence, could be a ccTLD thing, but the auth code that used to be viewable on the Transfer tab at Gandi is no longer there. Strange.
- ramzez 3y agothey wanted £23 pounds for my .com domain which is ridiculous (plus extras I just moved to Namecheap for like 8 pounds which is 3 times less.
- nominemutato 3y agoI believe the real scandal is the increase in domain prices for the most loyal customers. Today, .it domains cost me 10 Euros plus VAT, from July they will cost 19.99 Euros plus VAT. That's a 99.9% increase and a lower level of service.
- mongrelion 3y agoAgrgrgr I'm angry. Gandi got recently bought and people were saying that it was just a matter of time before they would pull something like this. Your predictions were right and I hate that I'm in this position now. I'm reading the messages of people saying that they had paid for their domains like 10 years in advance but they are going to have to start paying for their mailboxes, which is a breach of contract. These people are just pieces of shit. Fuck you, Gandi.net
- KomoD 3y ago> Gandi got recently bought Was bought in 2019 too, by a private equity firm
- mongrelion 3y agoYou are right. My timeline is off. That doesn't make me any less angry, though.
- zie 3y agoJust started transferring to porkbun.com
- marchukov 3y agoCan anybody recommend an alternative with the following: 1. EU/EEA/Switzerland 2. DNSSEC 3. DNS hosting (with DNSSEC support) 4. WebAuth/FIDO2 2nd factor (with ability to add multiple keys and recovery codes) Right now Gandi meets all those for me, but it is always nice to explore something new.
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