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US healthcare is absolutely horrible. Both outrageously expensive and utterly lacking in availability. This is why average longevity in US is declining while it

US healthcare is absolutely horrible. Both outrageously expensive and utterly lacking in availability. This is why average longevity in US is declining while it is growing in other developed countries. It’s not health-care, it’s health-don’t-care.

adventured 3y ago
> Both outrageously expensive and utterly lacking in availability. US healthcare is easy to access. I've used it at every economic tier and it has never been difficult to get access to proper care. It is obnoxiously expensive. > This is why average longevity in US is declining while it is growing in other developed countries. It's growing in most, not all of course. Britain as one example is seeing something between stagnation and decline in its life expectancy, despite their vaunted NHS. And for seven decades it has lagged increasingly behind its peers, being ahead of only the US in its peer group. Universal healthcare will only take you so far. "Life expectancy in the UK has grown at a slower rate than comparable countries over the past seven decades, according to researchers, who say this is the result of widening inequality. "The UK lags behind all other countries in the group of G7 advanced economies except the US, according to a new analysis of global life expectancy rankings published in the Journal of the Royal Society of Medicine. "While life expectancy has increased in absolute terms, similar countries have experienced larger increases, they wrote. In the 1950s, the UK had one of the longest life expectancies in the world, ranking seventh globally behind countries such as Denmark, Norway and Sweden, but in 2021 the UK was ranked 29th." [0] --- "A new analysis of global rankings of life expectancy over seven decades shows the UK has done worse than all G7 countries except the USA." [1] [0] https://www.theguardian.com/society/2023/mar/16/life-expectancy-in-uk-growing-at-slower-rate-to-comparable-g7-countries https://www.theguardian.com/society/2023/mar/16/life-expecta... [1] https://www.lshtm.ac.uk/newsevents/news/2023/uk-drops-new-global-ranking-life-expectancy https://www.lshtm.ac.uk/newsevents/news/2023/uk-drops-new-gl...
- thfuran 3y ago
  >US healthcare is easy to access Emergency care is typically easy to access. Non-emergency care is pretty easy to access in some places and quite inconvenient in others.
- spiralpolitik 3y ago
  The NHS has been driven to the point of bankruptcy over the last 13 years with austerity and underfunding. In the UK if you can afford it, you go private for most common procedures. Most people can’t so are stuck with long waiting times and worse outcomes.
nradov 3y ago
Life expectancy in the US has been declining due to other factors like substance abuse (fentanyl poisoning), obesity, violence, and vehicle crashes. The healthcare system can have only a limited impact on those.
- one_level_deep 3y ago
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adventured 3y ago

> Both outrageously expensive and utterly lacking in availability. US healthcare is easy to access. I've used it at every economic tier and it has never been difficult to get access to proper care. It is obnoxiously expensive. > This is why average longevity in US is declining while it is growing in other developed countries. It's growing in most, not all of course. Britain as one example is seeing something between stagnation and decline in its life expectancy, despite their vaunted NHS. And for seven decades it has lagged increasingly behind its peers, being ahead of only the US in its peer group. Universal healthcare will only take you so far. "Life expectancy in the UK has grown at a slower rate than comparable countries over the past seven decades, according to researchers, who say this is the result of widening inequality. "The UK lags behind all other countries in the group of G7 advanced economies except the US, according to a new analysis of global life expectancy rankings published in the Journal of the Royal Society of Medicine. "While life expectancy has increased in absolute terms, similar countries have experienced larger increases, they wrote. In the 1950s, the UK had one of the longest life expectancies in the world, ranking seventh globally behind countries such as Denmark, Norway and Sweden, but in 2021 the UK was ranked 29th." [0] --- "A new analysis of global rankings of life expectancy over seven decades shows the UK has done worse than all G7 countries except the USA." [1] [0] https://www.theguardian.com/society/2023/mar/16/life-expectancy-in-uk-growing-at-slower-rate-to-comparable-g7-countries https://www.theguardian.com/society/2023/mar/16/life-expecta... [1] https://www.lshtm.ac.uk/newsevents/news/2023/uk-drops-new-global-ranking-life-expectancy https://www.lshtm.ac.uk/newsevents/news/2023/uk-drops-new-gl...

thfuran 3y ago
>US healthcare is easy to access Emergency care is typically easy to access. Non-emergency care is pretty easy to access in some places and quite inconvenient in others.
spiralpolitik 3y ago
The NHS has been driven to the point of bankruptcy over the last 13 years with austerity and underfunding. In the UK if you can afford it, you go private for most common procedures. Most people can’t so are stuck with long waiting times and worse outcomes.

nradov 3y ago

Life expectancy in the US has been declining due to other factors like substance abuse (fentanyl poisoning), obesity, violence, and vehicle crashes. The healthcare system can have only a limited impact on those.

one_level_deep 3y ago
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