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Aliens just seem to love the USA, don't they? Just like giant prehistoric sea monsters seem to love Japan. It's totally not a cover-up for another black project

Aliens just seem to love the USA, don't they? Just like giant prehistoric sea monsters seem to love Japan. It's totally not a cover-up for another black project.

Madhouse61 3y ago
Off topic but somewhat related... As of late, I've really enjoyed watching FPV racing drone footage on YouTube. And it's made wonder - if commercial drones currently on the market are capable of this: https://youtube.com/shorts/mMmBC2nwcjY?feature=share3 https://youtube.com/shorts/mMmBC2nwcjY?feature=share3 What do you get when you have a multi-billion dollar defense budget and some of the best engineers on the planet?
- zakki 3y ago
  An UFO?
- incrudible 3y ago
  > What do you get when you have a multi-billion dollar defense budget and some of the best engineers on the planet? A huge waste.
  - mostlysimilar 3y ago
    I don't think 80 years of global peace and safe international trade have been a huge waste.
    - phs318u 3y ago
      > 80 years of global peace and safe international trade Sorry but that's a rather myopic take. A significant portion of the world would claim they've experienced nothing of the sort.
      - op00to 3y ago
        Nothing on the scale of WWII.
    - incrudible 3y ago
      Did you get that history lesson from a Raytheon marketing brochure?
    - nmeagent 3y ago
      Hey, we can have both huge waste and 80 years of global(ish) peace with safe(ish) international trade.
- emmelaich 3y ago
  Also check out Dutch drone shows. Amazing co-ordination among hundreds of drones.
moomoo11 3y ago
If I came across a planet of smart monkeys and one monkey state had the most baddest mfers with the most insane tech and research, I’d want to learn about them. Everyone’s already encountered the starting conditions in most other countries. US is the only one winning Civilization Earth. I’m a naturalized US citizen, for example. Could have ended up anywhere but it’s best here in terms of opportunity and making new stuff.
- robofanatic 3y ago
  lol ... you are assuming aliens think like humans. Its almost impossible to tell what aliens consider "baddest mfers" or "insane tech and research".
  - adventured 3y ago
    The most advanced tech and research, as an overall, would be trivial for an advanced alien to decide. And the US has been leading in those categories for 80 years at least. The notion that it's impossible to figure out whether an advanced alien would think Afghanistan or the US have more advanced tech/research/science, is absurd. And if you can make that distinction, you can keep going.
    - justinclift 3y ago
      > And the US has been leading in those categories for 80 years at least. Imagine being skipped over for first contact because your country invented "software patents", making itself uncompetitive... ;)
    - zakki 3y ago
      I thought alien is looking for resources. They don’t care with the technology because they know they are more advanced.
    - SturgeonsLaw 3y ago
      Colonists with muskets and cannons didn't care which tribe had the best bows and spears
baron816 3y ago
Could be the case that it was found in the Pacific, or by an allied country and handed over/“liberated”.
haswell 3y ago
FTA: > “Retrievals of this kind are not limited to the United States. This is a global phenomenon, and yet a global solution continues to elude us.”
- TechBro8615 3y ago
  > a global solution continues to elude us You gotta love the implied premise that there's a problem to be solved, because of course that's all our government is good for: solving problems it creates. I think the problem here is the government's tendency to lie to its citizens. The solution is unrelated to aliens.
  - glenstein 3y ago
    I think one of the most effective strategies of conspiracy theory content relates to exactly this point. You bypass the examination of evidence, and entertain theories that would take evidence as given. I remember a video my stepdad saw about Aliens On The Moon, supposedly there to harvest H3, that, instead of asking whether it was true, asked "what do they want?", and "what are they intending to do?" And there was a part about a grainy picture of the moon, with a narrator suggesting looked like there was a cannon-style weapon, asserting that "experts believe" it is aimed at Earth, implying that it's to keep Earth from challenging them for the precious H3. Just like that, you are pulled into a story, with all kinds of psychological threads. You run before you're able to walk, essentially, and you get people caught up running, and you can backdoor the presumption that the underlying premise was indeed established. So, I completely agree at there's such a peculiar note being struck by this implied premise.
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crazygringo 3y ago
Culturally, Godzilla in Japan very much came out of the fear of nuclear weapons and radiation post-Hiroshima and Nagasaki -- a monster awakened and empowered by nuclear weapons [1]. I've never been super clear on what the cultural reason for aliens <-> USA is though. Although I suppose it's different in that Godzilla was an intentional fictional creation, while the fascination with aliens hopes they're actually real. [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Godzilla https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Godzilla
- krapp 3y ago
  There have been reports of aliens, alien crashes and recovery, etc. all over the world[0]. The reason it's primarily seen as an American phenomenon is that the whole culture and mythos originated in the US, first in the late 1940s with the Kenneth Arnold sighting[1] (where the term "flying saucer" originated) and later Close Encounters of the Third Kind and Whitley Streiber's Communion codified the "grey alien/abduction" motif (although there were prior stories like the Pascagoula abduction[2], notable for the aliens described as looking nothing like greys) and of course the X-Files. The rest of the world likely absorbed the UFO archetype through cultural osmosis. Also Americans simply aren't going to be aware of UFO reports from other countries unless they go out of their way to look for them. [0]https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zanfretta_UFO_Incident https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zanfretta_UFO_Incident https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ant%C3%B4nio_Vilas-Boas https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ant%C3%B4nio_Vilas-Boas https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rendlesham_Forest_incident https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rendlesham_Forest_incident https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Varginha_UFO_incident https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Varginha_UFO_incident https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Falcon_Lake_Incident https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Falcon_Lake_Incident https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Japan_Air_Lines_Cargo_Flight_1628_incident https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Japan_Air_Lines_Cargo_Flight_1... [1]https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kenneth_Arnold_UFO_sighting https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kenneth_Arnold_UFO_sighting [2]https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pascagoula_Abduction https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pascagoula_Abduction
  - doctor_radium 3y ago
    And what is considered by some the best UFO photo ever was taken in Costa Rica in 1971: https://news.co.cr/best-ufo-photo-in-the-world-taken-at-arenal-costa-rica-45-yrs-ago/50584/ https://news.co.cr/best-ufo-photo-in-the-world-taken-at-aren... UFO researcher Leslie Kean obtained a copy directly from the Costa Rican government: https://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2021/05/10/how-the-pentagon-started-taking-ufos-seriously https://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2021/05/10/how-the-pentag...
esprehn 3y ago
You might appreciate Superman Red Son which explores what could have happened if Kal-El landed on a Ukrainian farm instead of Kansas. It's obviously got bias but it's fun to think about what happens if all the hero "stuff" didn't happen in the US. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Superman:_Red_Son https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Superman:_Red_Son
- Krasnol 3y ago
  I could totally imagine a Ukrainian farmer pulling a UFO with his tractor on TicToc.
thatjoeoverthr 3y ago
Supposing (for sake of argument) they're real, Americans' broad deployment of advanced avionics could mean we're simply more likely to detect them. Secondly, cultural factors could increase risk of leaks, compared to Russian and Chinese detections. Third, tight control of Russian and Chinese media can suppress any serious discourse. That's enough to give an impression that UFO encounters are an American thing.
tru3_power 3y ago
What about the Middle East sighting nasa publicly spoke about?
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paulddraper 3y ago
Or maybe the USA has observed them more.
stonepresto 3y ago
The USA loves aliens. And money. And my money is on this guy being a grifter.
- ryanmercer 3y ago
  Maybe they're just friends of Gordon Shumway, Mork, Paul, and Uncle Martin.
kypro 3y ago
The only thing aliens love more than the USA is to troll fighter pilots and military bases. Somehow despite all of the cameras and tracking technology these vehicles and locations have, the aliens still manage to avoid being caught on camera and only make their appearance obvious to a few first-hand observers.
- WatchDog 3y ago
  There have been some ufos caught on camera by us military aircraft[0]. No evidence of them being alien in nature. [0]: https://www.nytimes.com/2020/04/28/us/pentagon-ufo-videos.html https://www.nytimes.com/2020/04/28/us/pentagon-ufo-videos.ht...
fnord77 3y ago
https://i.imgur.com/iC1uhpo.png https://i.imgur.com/iC1uhpo.png
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Aliens just seem to love the USA, don't they? Just like giant prehistoric sea monsters seem to love Japan. It's totally not a cover-up for another black project.

Madhouse61 3y ago

Off topic but somewhat related... As of late, I've really enjoyed watching FPV racing drone footage on YouTube. And it's made wonder - if commercial drones currently on the market are capable of this: https://youtube.com/shorts/mMmBC2nwcjY?feature=share3 https://youtube.com/shorts/mMmBC2nwcjY?feature=share3 What do you get when you have a multi-billion dollar defense budget and some of the best engineers on the planet?

zakki 3y ago
An UFO?
incrudible 3y ago
> What do you get when you have a multi-billion dollar defense budget and some of the best engineers on the planet? A huge waste.
- mostlysimilar 3y ago
  I don't think 80 years of global peace and safe international trade have been a huge waste.
  - phs318u 3y ago
    > 80 years of global peace and safe international trade Sorry but that's a rather myopic take. A significant portion of the world would claim they've experienced nothing of the sort.
    - op00to 3y ago
      Nothing on the scale of WWII.
  - incrudible 3y ago
    Did you get that history lesson from a Raytheon marketing brochure?
  - nmeagent 3y ago
    Hey, we can have both huge waste and 80 years of global(ish) peace with safe(ish) international trade.
emmelaich 3y ago
Also check out Dutch drone shows. Amazing co-ordination among hundreds of drones.

moomoo11 3y ago

If I came across a planet of smart monkeys and one monkey state had the most baddest mfers with the most insane tech and research, I’d want to learn about them. Everyone’s already encountered the starting conditions in most other countries. US is the only one winning Civilization Earth. I’m a naturalized US citizen, for example. Could have ended up anywhere but it’s best here in terms of opportunity and making new stuff.

robofanatic 3y ago
lol ... you are assuming aliens think like humans. Its almost impossible to tell what aliens consider "baddest mfers" or "insane tech and research".
- adventured 3y ago
  The most advanced tech and research, as an overall, would be trivial for an advanced alien to decide. And the US has been leading in those categories for 80 years at least. The notion that it's impossible to figure out whether an advanced alien would think Afghanistan or the US have more advanced tech/research/science, is absurd. And if you can make that distinction, you can keep going.
  - justinclift 3y ago
    > And the US has been leading in those categories for 80 years at least. Imagine being skipped over for first contact because your country invented "software patents", making itself uncompetitive... ;)
  - zakki 3y ago
    I thought alien is looking for resources. They don’t care with the technology because they know they are more advanced.
  - SturgeonsLaw 3y ago
    Colonists with muskets and cannons didn't care which tribe had the best bows and spears

baron816 3y ago

Could be the case that it was found in the Pacific, or by an allied country and handed over/“liberated”.

haswell 3y ago

FTA: > “Retrievals of this kind are not limited to the United States. This is a global phenomenon, and yet a global solution continues to elude us.”

TechBro8615 3y ago
> a global solution continues to elude us You gotta love the implied premise that there's a problem to be solved, because of course that's all our government is good for: solving problems it creates. I think the problem here is the government's tendency to lie to its citizens. The solution is unrelated to aliens.
- glenstein 3y ago
  I think one of the most effective strategies of conspiracy theory content relates to exactly this point. You bypass the examination of evidence, and entertain theories that would take evidence as given. I remember a video my stepdad saw about Aliens On The Moon, supposedly there to harvest H3, that, instead of asking whether it was true, asked "what do they want?", and "what are they intending to do?" And there was a part about a grainy picture of the moon, with a narrator suggesting looked like there was a cannon-style weapon, asserting that "experts believe" it is aimed at Earth, implying that it's to keep Earth from challenging them for the precious H3. Just like that, you are pulled into a story, with all kinds of psychological threads. You run before you're able to walk, essentially, and you get people caught up running, and you can backdoor the presumption that the underlying premise was indeed established. So, I completely agree at there's such a peculiar note being struck by this implied premise.
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crazygringo 3y ago

Culturally, Godzilla in Japan very much came out of the fear of nuclear weapons and radiation post-Hiroshima and Nagasaki -- a monster awakened and empowered by nuclear weapons [1]. I've never been super clear on what the cultural reason for aliens <-> USA is though. Although I suppose it's different in that Godzilla was an intentional fictional creation, while the fascination with aliens hopes they're actually real. [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Godzilla https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Godzilla

krapp 3y ago
There have been reports of aliens, alien crashes and recovery, etc. all over the world[0]. The reason it's primarily seen as an American phenomenon is that the whole culture and mythos originated in the US, first in the late 1940s with the Kenneth Arnold sighting[1] (where the term "flying saucer" originated) and later Close Encounters of the Third Kind and Whitley Streiber's Communion codified the "grey alien/abduction" motif (although there were prior stories like the Pascagoula abduction[2], notable for the aliens described as looking nothing like greys) and of course the X-Files. The rest of the world likely absorbed the UFO archetype through cultural osmosis. Also Americans simply aren't going to be aware of UFO reports from other countries unless they go out of their way to look for them. [0]https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zanfretta_UFO_Incident https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zanfretta_UFO_Incident https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ant%C3%B4nio_Vilas-Boas https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ant%C3%B4nio_Vilas-Boas https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rendlesham_Forest_incident https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rendlesham_Forest_incident https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Varginha_UFO_incident https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Varginha_UFO_incident https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Falcon_Lake_Incident https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Falcon_Lake_Incident https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Japan_Air_Lines_Cargo_Flight_1628_incident https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Japan_Air_Lines_Cargo_Flight_1... [1]https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kenneth_Arnold_UFO_sighting https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kenneth_Arnold_UFO_sighting [2]https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pascagoula_Abduction https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pascagoula_Abduction
- doctor_radium 3y ago
  And what is considered by some the best UFO photo ever was taken in Costa Rica in 1971: https://news.co.cr/best-ufo-photo-in-the-world-taken-at-arenal-costa-rica-45-yrs-ago/50584/ https://news.co.cr/best-ufo-photo-in-the-world-taken-at-aren... UFO researcher Leslie Kean obtained a copy directly from the Costa Rican government: https://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2021/05/10/how-the-pentagon-started-taking-ufos-seriously https://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2021/05/10/how-the-pentag...

esprehn 3y ago

You might appreciate Superman Red Son which explores what could have happened if Kal-El landed on a Ukrainian farm instead of Kansas. It's obviously got bias but it's fun to think about what happens if all the hero "stuff" didn't happen in the US. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Superman:_Red_Son https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Superman:_Red_Son

Krasnol 3y ago
I could totally imagine a Ukrainian farmer pulling a UFO with his tractor on TicToc.

thatjoeoverthr 3y ago

Supposing (for sake of argument) they're real, Americans' broad deployment of advanced avionics could mean we're simply more likely to detect them. Secondly, cultural factors could increase risk of leaks, compared to Russian and Chinese detections. Third, tight control of Russian and Chinese media can suppress any serious discourse. That's enough to give an impression that UFO encounters are an American thing.

tru3_power 3y ago

What about the Middle East sighting nasa publicly spoke about?

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paulddraper 3y ago

Or maybe the USA has observed them more.

stonepresto 3y ago

The USA loves aliens. And money. And my money is on this guy being a grifter.

ryanmercer 3y ago
Maybe they're just friends of Gordon Shumway, Mork, Paul, and Uncle Martin.

kypro 3y ago

The only thing aliens love more than the USA is to troll fighter pilots and military bases. Somehow despite all of the cameras and tracking technology these vehicles and locations have, the aliens still manage to avoid being caught on camera and only make their appearance obvious to a few first-hand observers.

WatchDog 3y ago
There have been some ufos caught on camera by us military aircraft[0]. No evidence of them being alien in nature. [0]: https://www.nytimes.com/2020/04/28/us/pentagon-ufo-videos.html https://www.nytimes.com/2020/04/28/us/pentagon-ufo-videos.ht...

fnord77 3y ago

https://i.imgur.com/iC1uhpo.png https://i.imgur.com/iC1uhpo.png

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