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There have been multiple reports of the last couple years that Apple has been informally internally helping the Asahi Linux team to make it run well on their ha

by jb1991 3y ago

There have been multiple reports of the last couple years that Apple has been informally internally helping the Asahi Linux team to make it run well on their hardware. Apple cannot come out and officially support another operating system of course, but they are aware of the interest and are helping make it happen, in an unofficial capacity.

freedomben 3y ago
> Apple cannot come out and officially support another operating system of course Why?
- IshKebab 3y ago
  Yeah that's nonsense. They already have bootcamp.
  - jb1991 3y ago
    That’s incorrect. Bootcamp has not existed for a while now.
    - IshKebab 3y ago
      Looks like it still exists, they just never ported it to the ARM chips, presumably because nobody wants ARM Windows. In any case that's really irrelevant to the main point which is that Apple appears to have no objection to other OSes running on their laptops. Though I wouldn't be surprised if they don't go out of their way to help and make it de facto impossible through secure boot systems.
hollerith 3y ago
>Apple cannot come out and officially support another operating system of course Apple officially supported running Windows on Macs for many years.
- jb1991 3y ago
  You can still do so with VMs, officially endorsed. But Bootcamp is RIP. Asahi Linux is not a VM, so not a fair comparison.
  - hollerith 3y ago
    I wasn't comparing. I was refuting your assertion. What has changed that prevents Apple from officially endorsing another OS nowadays when it clearly was able to do so in the past?
    - MBCook 3y ago
      My assumption would be support. Boot Camp was officially supported. It gave them an advantage because it helped people move over to a Mac from windows because they could still run some of their software. If Apple was to help Asahi officially, I think they would be worried that they would be on the hook either for continuing to support it or for damage done to the hardware by other peoples changes to the code. Basically I think it’s a combination of not wanting to spend the money and being worried about the potential downsides of doing it. The upside, in terms of additional sales, is likely very small.

by jb1991 3y ago

freedomben 3y ago

> Apple cannot come out and officially support another operating system of course Why?

IshKebab 3y ago
Yeah that's nonsense. They already have bootcamp.
- jb1991 3y ago
  That’s incorrect. Bootcamp has not existed for a while now.
  - IshKebab 3y ago
    Looks like it still exists, they just never ported it to the ARM chips, presumably because nobody wants ARM Windows. In any case that's really irrelevant to the main point which is that Apple appears to have no objection to other OSes running on their laptops. Though I wouldn't be surprised if they don't go out of their way to help and make it de facto impossible through secure boot systems.

hollerith 3y ago

>Apple cannot come out and officially support another operating system of course Apple officially supported running Windows on Macs for many years.

jb1991 3y ago
You can still do so with VMs, officially endorsed. But Bootcamp is RIP. Asahi Linux is not a VM, so not a fair comparison.
- hollerith 3y ago
  I wasn't comparing. I was refuting your assertion. What has changed that prevents Apple from officially endorsing another OS nowadays when it clearly was able to do so in the past?
  - MBCook 3y ago
    My assumption would be support. Boot Camp was officially supported. It gave them an advantage because it helped people move over to a Mac from windows because they could still run some of their software. If Apple was to help Asahi officially, I think they would be worried that they would be on the hook either for continuing to support it or for damage done to the hardware by other peoples changes to the code. Basically I think it’s a combination of not wanting to spend the money and being worried about the potential downsides of doing it. The upside, in terms of additional sales, is likely very small.