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What else can I add? You've seen my interactions here. Does it seem to you like the kind of person you’re interacting with is reasonable here but unreasonable

What else can I add? You've seen my interactions here. Does it seem to you like the kind of person you’re interacting with is reasonable here but unreasonable to the point of group toxicity elsewhere? Or that I'm unreasonable here?

dghlsakjg 3y ago
Yes. Your initial comment here was unsupported by real world examples, and used a lot of rage-bait buzzwords. When asked to put up a concrete example, no-one called you a fascist/nazi/transphobe in the example. They banned you for, according to you, "just asking questions" on a country specific coronavirus subreddit. Your tone comes off as "I'm right, they're wrong. I'm the victim here!"
- jboy55 3y ago
  "Just asking questions" is the biggest red flag of ill intent, its not doubt I would ban someone for resorting to that. Especially if we look at the facts given in the comment. " saying at the time we didn't yet know how many doses and on what schedule of the vaccine would be needed." "I messaged the mods to explain that I was triple-vaxxed " So we can infer from this post that this happened sometime after Aug 2021. So someone went into the Canada Coronavirus group, a group where posts seem to get tens of comments, and brought up completely innocently, "how we don't know how many doses" we need. To make a broader point on what... could it have been, "how we shouldn't have a mandate?" Perhaps this was closer to Feb/2022 where the Trucker protest was raging across Canada. Of course, the mods may not want a big flamewar over mandates in their group that seems like a niche information aggregation sub.
  - unsupp0rted 3y ago
    It would be doubly damning if GP hadn't made up the "just asking questions" quote as if I had said or implied it. Or if you hadn't made up the "how we shouldn't have a mandate?" quote as if I had commented in either direction on that.
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  - mistermann 3y ago
    > "Just asking questions" is the biggest red flag of ill intent I consider the playing of the accusation of the JAQ wildcard (an immediate victory in the minds of some subsets of observers) to be a much more dangerous (often literally unrealizeable) cultural norm, it is a go to staple technique in any delusional internet rhetorician's toolkit.
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    - mynameisvlad 3y ago
      https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sealioning https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sealioning It is a well known tactic for ill intent. For a reason. People do it all the time and should be called out for doing so.
      - nailer 3y ago
        Asking the rationale for drastic action is quite reasonable and he’s very different from asking why somebody doesn’t like you and chasing them around per the webcomic you’re referencing.
      - jasonfarnon 3y ago
        asking questions is also a well-known tactic for getting information. how do you figure out there's ill intent?
        jboy55 3y ago
        When its an excuse for bad behavior. If someone is being told, "You are being disruptive to this forum" and the response is, "I'm just asking questions". Then you know its a red flag.
        mynameisvlad 3y ago
        Like everything else in life, by using contextual clues and judging the content of the questions. It's quite obvious when someone asks you questions with ill intent.
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dghlsakjg 3y ago

Yes. Your initial comment here was unsupported by real world examples, and used a lot of rage-bait buzzwords. When asked to put up a concrete example, no-one called you a fascist/nazi/transphobe in the example. They banned you for, according to you, "just asking questions" on a country specific coronavirus subreddit. Your tone comes off as "I'm right, they're wrong. I'm the victim here!"

jboy55 3y ago
"Just asking questions" is the biggest red flag of ill intent, its not doubt I would ban someone for resorting to that. Especially if we look at the facts given in the comment. " saying at the time we didn't yet know how many doses and on what schedule of the vaccine would be needed." "I messaged the mods to explain that I was triple-vaxxed " So we can infer from this post that this happened sometime after Aug 2021. So someone went into the Canada Coronavirus group, a group where posts seem to get tens of comments, and brought up completely innocently, "how we don't know how many doses" we need. To make a broader point on what... could it have been, "how we shouldn't have a mandate?" Perhaps this was closer to Feb/2022 where the Trucker protest was raging across Canada. Of course, the mods may not want a big flamewar over mandates in their group that seems like a niche information aggregation sub.
- unsupp0rted 3y ago
  It would be doubly damning if GP hadn't made up the "just asking questions" quote as if I had said or implied it. Or if you hadn't made up the "how we shouldn't have a mandate?" quote as if I had commented in either direction on that.
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- mistermann 3y ago
  > "Just asking questions" is the biggest red flag of ill intent I consider the playing of the accusation of the JAQ wildcard (an immediate victory in the minds of some subsets of observers) to be a much more dangerous (often literally unrealizeable) cultural norm, it is a go to staple technique in any delusional internet rhetorician's toolkit.
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  - mynameisvlad 3y ago
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sealioning https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sealioning It is a well known tactic for ill intent. For a reason. People do it all the time and should be called out for doing so.
    - nailer 3y ago
      Asking the rationale for drastic action is quite reasonable and he’s very different from asking why somebody doesn’t like you and chasing them around per the webcomic you’re referencing.
    - jasonfarnon 3y ago
      asking questions is also a well-known tactic for getting information. how do you figure out there's ill intent?
      - jboy55 3y ago
        When its an excuse for bad behavior. If someone is being told, "You are being disruptive to this forum" and the response is, "I'm just asking questions". Then you know its a red flag.
      - mynameisvlad 3y ago
        Like everything else in life, by using contextual clues and judging the content of the questions. It's quite obvious when someone asks you questions with ill intent.
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