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Messages that can only be understood under the influence of psychedelics
- tilakraj_0308 3y ago[flagged]
- wcerfgba 3y agoWow this is way cooler than the ski goggles announcement! :D
- DiscourseFan 3y agoImagine subtly encrypting a message on all the users of ski goggles such that only people using psychedelics could see it.
- albert_e 3y agoClick on the period at the end of this dot. "Informed Consent" to capture user tracking data will have an interesting interplay with "Dark Patterns".
- dieselgate 3y agoIronically these clips would probably be great to view with said ski goggles
- mijoharas 3y agoWhat are the messages hidden in each video. Unless I'm mistaken, the text below doesn't say what the hidden message is? In addition, does anyone have a version of the video with the messages visible, as outlined in the first description: Entire message can be seen clearly by using video editing software and applying a tracer/echo effect and having 60 images in a trail that each are 0.033 seconds after the previous. This process can also be repeated with code.
- nine_k 3y agoThe first video shows diagonal rows of.. creatures, reminiscent maybe of crabs, or maybe flowers. They are pretty clearly visible once you repeat the video several times, and watch the black empty spaces between color lines, instead of the lines themselves (much like Castaneda describes it). The second one contains some intricate pattern or maybe letters, but still more like flowers. I was unable to make out any definite shapes. The third one contains letters in the vertical columns. I could not make out enough to read a complete message, but certain letters, like R, S, or E in the left columns are pretty clearly visible after several repetitions. The largest fragment I could detect with enough certainty is ...ERS IS THE... in the leftmost column. Disclaimer: absolutely clean, no psychedelic or other mind-altering substances.
- jibbers 3y agoI see the words "WE LOVE YOU" in the negative space in the first video.
- stavros 3y agoAhh yes, you're right! The expanding circles show the text, it's just disappearing too quickly after. I imagine that, if you're on acid, the afterimage is strong enough to read the message clearly.
- nine_k 3y agoIn what part of the video? The top? The bottom is definitely covered with repeating non-letter shapes.
- jibbers 3y agoIn all parts. The center is has the biggest text. If it helps think of it this way: you're looking through a black fence at something colorful on the other side. Edit: You're right, the text is only in the middle and next largest "fold." The rest is, spoiler, alien face glyphs.
- dannyw 3y agoAmount of acid consumed today amongst HN readers must be higher today.
- wouldbecouldbe 3y agoI have a replica of an old painting of the Buddha, Tibetan. Once on truffles I shouted out there is a snow lion in the painting. Very vividly the pattern of the composition turns into a snowlion in 3d on truffles. Sober I can now see the patterns in there, but not the strong visual representation. They defintely put it in there on purpose. Not sure what tools they use to alter their vision.
- stavros 3y agoCan you post a photo?
- wouldbecouldbe 3y agoThis one: https://i.etsystatic.com/25915090/r/il/ed3d36/4628746212/il_1588xN.4628746212_jrrh.jpg https://i.etsystatic.com/25915090/r/il/ed3d36/4628746212/il_.... Not sure the rest saw it, not everyone recognizes Tibetan symbols.
- stavros 3y agoInteresting, thanks! I can't make out anything resembling a lion, but I imagine I need to be higher for that.
- wouldbecouldbe 3y agoHaha yeah it's harder for me to see now also. Two of the leaves of the lotus are darker those are his eyes, the white flower & female buddha are his tongue. The white skin of people are his hairs. When sober it feels farfetched, but it's all much clearer on a substance :)
- stavros 3y agoAhhh I kind of see what you mean! Very interesting, I wonder if this was on purpose or if the mind is just great at seeing things in shapes when on drugs.
- ActorNightly 3y agoMain insta https://www.instagram.com/inner.reflection/ https://www.instagram.com/inner.reflection/ So far the closest visualization I have seen in terms of visuals that happen under effects of LSD/Shrooms
- actualwitch 3y agoHave you seen /r/replications?
- tezza 3y agoHmm. “Right state of consciousness” makes it sound exotic in a click baity way It is more like “Experiencing a visual trip compatible with the image whilst also still lucid enough to communicate and remember” Tripping comes in all varieties of strengths and effects. Often the effects are barely visual. Also you can be so out of it that you cannot speak and perhaps also cannot remember the test image when you’ve come down.
- Retr0id 3y agoI can see the first one fairly clearly in my default state of consciousness, which I suppose confirms my theory that I have higher-than-average vision persistence. (I have never used psychedelics, and do not plan to) Tips to make it stand out more: HDR monitor at max brightness, increase playback speed to 2x Try not to follow the movement, but keep your eyes on a fixed location (e.g. a speck of dust on your screen)
- therein 3y agoYeah I can too but I have done psychedelics in the past, despite not having any HPPD symptoms. I believe it is WE LOVE YOU with some aliens.
- dieselgate 3y agoIt seems like that’s one of the reasons the first piece won - because it’s quite accessible compared to the others.
- s-lambert 3y agoPutting at 2x speed made it easy to read for me too, only the 3rd one was hard to read and I feel like that's because the lettering there is strange.
- Traubenfuchs 3y ago> increase playback speed to 2x But that's cheating -make it fast enough any anyone can see it I suppose.
- GolDDranks 3y ago
- dieselgate 3y agoThis is a very cool post. It’s a bit funny to see the HN crowd polarized with how best to view the messages but doesn’t seem anyone has viewed yet under psychedelics
- 2-718-281-828 3y agoalso wondered about that. nobody here from the valley who'd up the micro dose today and confirm the claim?
- speed_spread 3y agoYeah let me drop acid in my morning cereal right before the daily scrum. This day's gonna be a fun if unproductive one finding patterns across Confluence pages.
- swader999 3y agoDon't do that, I already put it in the team water jug.
- speed_spread 3y agoOh yeah, talk about _real_ team building. Offsite and all over the place without leaving the building.
- jejeyyy77 3y ago:D
- LoganDark 3y ago> It’s a bit funny to see the HN crowd polarized with how best to view the messages but doesn’t seem anyone has viewed yet under psychedelics Honestly, I probably would if I wasn't all out of LSD, hehe. It sounds like a fun experiment and I still hope to try it one day.
- dvt 3y agoFor those that are curious, these are the messages: https://imgur.com/a/y0mXbAk https://imgur.com/a/y0mXbAk Decoded using: ffmpeg -i input.mp4 -vf tmix=frames=36:weights="1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1" output.mp4 ffmpeg -i output.mp4 -vf "curves=all='0/0 0.05/1 1/1'" bright.mp4 We need to use the second command, as frame averaging in ffmpeg lowers luminosity. There's probably a way to cleverly get around this, but I'm no ffmpeg expert. The secrets are: "WE LOVE YOU," some alien heads, "UNIVERSE IS THE GATE," and "MIND IS THE LOCK (?—the last word is a bit hard to read)." Pretty neat, fun puzzle, though there's probably ways to make it tougher to solve in the context of something like a hacker tournament (as the negative space is a dead giveaway).
- pera 3y agoHah that's cool, reminds me a little bit to those LED message fans
- xattt 3y agoMad respect for your solution, but how do you get to this point where you can look at a thing and say “oh yeah, it’s XYZ”?
- dvt 3y ago> how do you get to this point where you can look at a thing and say “oh yeah, it’s XYZ”? What do you mean exactly?
- quibono 3y agoI think GP meant: how do you go from watching the obfuscated video to going, "To see the message I need to use mix=frames=36 with the following weights..."
- dvt 3y agoOh, well the weight was going to be 1 since I needed the frames need to be fully overlayed, and I randomly ended up at 36, since I just kept upping the frames until I got a good-enough image via trial & error. Then I had to fix the gamma, because it ended up being "smeared," which is exactly what I wanted, but extremely dark and hard to see.
- pbj1968 3y agoNone of this is real. Don’t fuck with your brain, pal, it ain’t worth it.
- kfrzcode 3y agoArguable. Entheogenic drugs are likely a significant driver behind human cognitive evolution. [0] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Entheogenic_drugs_and_the_archaeological_record https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Entheogenic_drugs_and_the_arch...
- arunix 3y agoAre you referring to the Stoned Ape hypothesis? I couldn't find any mention of evolution in the linked article.
- kfrzcode 3y agoYes, in part, and generally there's a close relationship between humans and many interesting psychedelic sources: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_entheogenic_drugs https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_entheogenic_drugs
- colordrops 3y agoYour two sentences contradict each other.
- Traubenfuchs 3y agoDo you not suffer from how painfully boring reality and the default mode of consciousness are? How can one stand decades of stagnation without the desire to escape?
- lrvick 3y agoTo stimulate my brain I just learn new skills and solve puzzles constantly. I am pretty happy so there is no need to escape. I admit I am -curious- to try psychedelics but in no hurry. Plenty of things to entertain me in this life.
- redox99 3y agoYou can see the messages if you take a long exposure shot (2s) from your phone Here are the photos from my phone https://imgur.com/a/WOqbQVo https://imgur.com/a/WOqbQVo
- dandanua 3y agoSo, psychedelics can give you a longer exposure vision. It might be useful for looking at stars and galaxies. Not so much for everything else.
- e_i_pi_2 3y agoCaffeine can cause pupil dilation - might be useful for low light conditions, but that doesn't mean it doesn't have plenty of other effects and uses. Same for any other drug
- MacsHeadroom 3y agoIt's not just vision! Psychedelics give all perceptions including mental concepts "long exposure" as well, causing them to overlap in ways which rarely happen sober. This allows for forming wholly new connections and insights otherwise out of reach for the sober mind.
- jackmott42 3y agoCitation? I have done a few and didn't really experience anything like that. Most things to me seemed somewhat shallow just like this visual trick. It was fun though!
- LoganDark 3y ago> Psychedelics give all perceptions including mental concepts "long exposure" as well, causing them to overlap in ways which rarely happen sober. > This allows for forming wholly new connections and insights otherwise out of reach for the sober mind. For me, LSD seemed to reveal some brand new type of thought or concept that could be recognized by the sound or impression that it made. My speech center would spit out complete gibberish when fed these types of thoughts. Actual quotes I typed while on LSD: "can have a haves and take a three sixteenth quarters" "can have an um somethings or others .... mmm much of somethings or others.... can havings a taken umpteenth very good time ...." Normal thoughts for me are based on words and images, but these ones were based on some sort of "proximity". I could somehow sense the strength of certain patterns, recognize them, and manipulate them, even if they had no actual meaning. It felt like I got to re-learn very basic fundamental concepts in the form of this brand new type of thought. Some of them just felt pleasant to think about even if I didn't know what they meant, so I'd commonly find them looping in the background. I still find this extremely fascinating and it's probably one of the biggest reasons why I hope to have more psychedelic trips in the future. I learned plenty of patterns and have plenty of memories of them, but seemingly can't decode those memories when sober, probably because those mental patterns simply aren't visible to me right now. I can remember certain types of artifacts generated by them though, like the gibberish words, some sounds, etc., at least the ones I committed to memory.
- DonHopkins 3y agoPeople who haven't used psychedelics don't tend to get or appreciate The Congress as much as those who have. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BPGhw4nACfk https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BPGhw4nACfk https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pPAl5GwvdY8 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pPAl5GwvdY8 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8pqzaZcivh4 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8pqzaZcivh4 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IMMI8HWhqEc https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IMMI8HWhqEc https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QHBl43lMJY0 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QHBl43lMJY0 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Congress_(2013_film) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Congress_(2013_film)
- Traubenfuchs 3y agoThis is absolutely amazing to me -how would one go about finding more gems like that?
- DonHopkins 3y agoIt's well worth reading the book by Stanislaw Lem that it's based on, The Futurological Congress! https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Futurological_Congress https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Futurological_Congress >The book opens at the eponymous congress. A riot breaks out, and the hero, Ijon Tichy, is hit by various psychoactive drugs that were put into the drinking water supply lines by the government to pacify the riots. Ijon and a few others escape to the safety of a sewer beneath the Hilton where the congress was being held, and in the sewer he goes through a series of hallucinations and false awakenings, which cause him to be confused about whether or not what's happening around him is real. Finally, he believes that he falls asleep and wakes up many years later. The main part of the book follows Ijon's adventures in the future world — a world where everyone takes hallucinogenic drugs, and hallucinations have replaced reality. In the same way that the epic movie Blade Runner was based on Philip K Dick's classic book Do Androids Dream of Electric Sheep, both movies are deeply inspired by but quite different than the books, so they both have unique important things to say and are worth reading and seeing. Both pairs of movies and books are among my top favorites! Many of Lem's books and stories are also excellent mind bending gems -- especially The Cyberiad! https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Cyberiad https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Cyberiad https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stanis%C5%82aw_Lem https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stanis%C5%82aw_Lem >[...] The Cyberiad (Cyberiada) provide a commentary on humanity in the form of a series of grotesque, humorous, fairytale-like short stories about a mechanical universe inhabited by robots (who have occasional contact with biological "slimies" and human "palefaces").[11][35] Lem also underlines the uncertainties of evolution, including that it might not progress upwards in intelligence.[36]
- liampulles 3y agoIs there a way to make some psychedelic LLM middleware to translate any new breaking API changes down into an acceptable format? High-level abstractions...
- smilespray 3y agoI mean, the LLMs are already hallucinating, so it shouldn't be that much of a stretch...
- brutusborn 3y agoThe phrase “psychedelic LLM” reminded me of this paper. This is your neural net on drugs! https://academic.oup.com/nc/article/2020/1/niaa024/6032852?login=false https://academic.oup.com/nc/article/2020/1/niaa024/6032852?l...
- pmontra 3y agoLight painting [1] without a camera. [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Light_painting https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Light_painting
- spiritplumber 3y agoI want this in a They Live remake
- dist-epoch 3y ago> At a theoretical level, this confirmation is significant because it is the first clear demonstration of a real perceptual computational advantage of psychedelic states of consciousness. This is a pretty strong claim, considering that while psychedelic states of consciousness do allow you to see these messages, they also have a lot of other side effects. I'm pretty sure you can do the reverse too, create a message which can only be seen in a normal state of consciousness - for example you use the same tracer phenomenon to obscure instead of to reveal the message. So a psychedelic state is not strictly superior to normal state, it's just different.
- lukas099 3y agoIt's not claiming that there's a net advantage.
- sayanwita 3y agoIt should because there is a net advantage coming from this difference. If some problem seems unsolvable in your normal state, try thinking that out in high state. So, at the end, creative tasks become easier as we can easily get two different perspectives for the same problem. Sometimes, it will help, sometimes not much. But the net is always positive because you visit both the states to solve the problem thinking out different possible angles.
- eimrine 3y agoVision is a wrong envirenment for the messages which can only be understood under the influence, try sound.
- heisenbit 3y agoHave we all misunderstood the function of drug screening job applicants by the NSA?
- goolz 3y agoThis gave me a good chuckle. I remember at school once there was a shadowy entity that I came to understand was NSA recruiters (think big engineering school, big Military budget, not atypical for students to have high clearance). If you signed away a couple years they gave you some cash, I remember that, but what made me laugh was the thought of those bland recruiters surreptitiously whispering, “Now look, the LSD is supposed to HELP you see the code, go on try some!”.
- thumbuddy 3y agoIve heard a lot of folklore surrounding these topics. I'd just be weary personally. At one point if you admitted you had used psychedelics some number of times you were considered insane and there's no way you could pass a polygraph. Obviously no one can vouch for this topic, but consider the vulnerability associated with intense psychedelic use. If someone wanted to make you die in real life, black mail you, etc, this would be very good leverage. I've been told that the government likes leverage like this for maintaining control/order of the people who work for it. But who really knows, could all be conspiratorial mumbo jumbo. What is known is that the government invested a lot of time into studying psychedelics for purposes of mind control, IE, something that is not in the interest of the practitioner whatsoever. Me personally... If I had to choose between being a psychedelic user on my own with my own tribe, or durring a government evaluation of my character, I think it's probably safer to choose the former not the latter.
- codeflo 3y agoAll the people in this thread who decoded it used long exposure or faster playback. Using the latter, for me, it starts to become readable at 2.5x and is essentially a clear static image at 4x. (I had to download the video and play it back using VLC.) Which for me, makes this claim a bit absurd: > At a theoretical level, this confirmation is significant because it is the first clear demonstration of a real perceptual computational advantage of psychedelic states of consciousness. LSD fans might hate this conclusion, but there's no "computational advantage" to having a 2.5x to 4x slower processing speed, which his the only thing actually being shown here.
- brutusborn 3y agoYou are probably right that having a slower processing speed isn’t an advantage overall, but being able to perceive patterns like this may be advantageous in some situations. Maybe the slower processing speed is the cost of better processing power? Kinda like the tradeoff between high torque and high speed for gearboxes. Some tribes use psychedelics for hunting, and others that use psychedelics for introspection: maybe they are perceiving something that we ignore during normal processing modes.
- carlmr 3y ago>Some tribes use psychedelics for hunting OP saying slow doesn't mean that it's actually slower. If you process more information time _appears_ more slowly, but you're processing more, i.e. faster. In hunting it might be good to have improved pattern matching abilities at the cost of a higher false-positive rate.
- batty_alex 3y agoYeah, it's very hard to describe. Almost like you perceive the present moment and the past couple seconds at the same time. Time seems to pass by you very quickly but, then you look at the clock, and it's only been 5 minutes That being said, I can't imagine having to hunt while on a lot of psychedelics
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- personjerry 3y agoOne time I took way too much weed butter and watched Interstellar, and I swear I could tell exactly where the green screen and photoshopping points were.
- driesv 3y agoThis has happened to me nearing the end of LSD trips watching movies or TV a couple times. Glad to finally hear someone else has experienced it too.
- thumbuddy 3y agoCannabis is indeed a psychedelic substance. Many users don't experience it as such, but in the proper dose, and especially ones first usage of it, can be intensely psychedelic. The challenge with the cannabis experience is, it is often deeply clouded in fear and paranoia. I bet someone could read the messages in these videos quite easily under the influence of cannabis, but I doubt most would be comfortable at that level of intoxication to enjoy the experience while it occurred.
- notamy 3y ago> Many users don't experience it as such, but in the proper dose, and especially ones first usage of it, can be intensely psychedelic. ime/imo the main reason why it's so uncommon is because you have to go _comically_ far over your tolerance to hit the truly-psychedelic effects, and, as you said, it can be deeply uncomfortable. I've only ever managed to hit truly-psychedelic effects by ex. eating 600mg of RSO with a low tolerance, or doing a dab after a t break and way overestimating my tolerance.
- LoganDark 3y ago> ime/imo the main reason why it's so uncommon is because you have to go _comically_ far over your tolerance to hit the truly-psychedelic effects, and, as you said, it can be deeply uncomfortable. I tried taking something like 50mg THC once and it just made me feel like my head was imploding for around five hours. No visuals or altered thoughts or anything. Made me conclude that my brain probably just isn't receptive to weed or something.
- tesdinger 3y agoThis is like a mutation in a dungeon crawl game, that affects most of your stats negatively but gives you the ability to discover the effect of scrolls.
- Spkeat17 3y agoThere's always a head start when you overclock, but we all know the rest.
- IIAOPSW 3y ago>first clear demonstration of a real perceptual computational advantage of psychedelic states of consciousness. I feel like this is technically true but also misleading towards the belief that there is an overall perceptual computation advantage of psychedelic states. You can maybe get a higher score on certain tests, but it comes at a loss on other tests. I'm willing to bet basic tests like an eye exam will score worse when all the letters are dripping. The reality is psychedelics effect a particular band of brainwave frequencies, and so is not like the blunt general stimulation or inebriation of other drugs. It may be better for your brain to be in a psychedelic state on certain tasks, but if it was better in the general case evolution would have already made it so. Remember, I can rig a system with absolute perfect perception just so long as you don't mind a rate of 100% false positives. Still congrats to QRI on this research. Very impressive result. Seems like they had some of the same method ideas I've had, or thought my ideas were worth taking last I spoke with them.
- mistermann 3y ago> It may be better for your brain to be in a psychedelic state on certain tasks, but if it was better in the general case evolution would have already made it so. Would the same not be true of delusion, psychopathy, and various other human shortcomings?
- IIAOPSW 3y agoIn the general case, having delusions and other psychotic issues are not selected for traits with positive outcomes for the individuals having them. Your life is hard if you have them and conventional success is rare. They persist in the general population to an extent for the same reason other hereditary illness persists. "I would die for two brothers or 8 cousins". A gene that is to your detriment in 1/3 cases but carries an advantage in the other 2/3 is still selected for. We have lots of examples of this in other heritable disease types, though admittedly no one is quite sure what advantage there might be to you if your brother or cousin is schizophrenic (for example).
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- djaouen 3y agoI can’t see it, but I trust others when trhey tell me it’s there. :)
- djaouen 3y agohttps://youtu.be/ila-hAUXR5U https://youtu.be/ila-hAUXR5U
- LoganDark 3y agoThis is awesome. As someone who occasionally used LSD for a couple months, I have a ton of appreciation for psychedelics and altered states of consciousness. This is super fascinating to me and I hope to experience it for myself one day.
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- Spkeat17 3y agoIt's nothing you can't chime in mentally sober.
- koromak 3y agoRegardless of the claims made, its a really neat idea. Confirms that tracers are a genuine artifact in your vision at least.
- myfirstacchere 3y agoShift your perspective, instead of imagining that the lines are flowing over the black (along the paths with coloured borders), imagine that black stripes are flowing and covering the surface which has something inscribed on it. So before you can actually start reading the text, you have to actually see the surface, which will in some sense appear as the widening of the lines across the curved flow axis. So the lines start turning into flowing stripes which reveal the surface beneath (full of text and aliens), you then have to try and hold that state. It is like that spinning balerina. EDIT: One more thing. The lines flicker, right? Since the "surface" underneath is interchangeably black & white, you must notice that the black stripes have straight borders. This will also make it easier. ... The white lines turn into "stripes revealing the surface underneath" even though when ignoring this, you only observe a white line. For me, if that shift of perspective is possible, then as an observer I can't vouch on the true width of the white lines, because if I switch my perspective, even as slightly as the lines widen, I cannot as a single observer give a definite statement on their width. Video analysis would only empirically confirm it if I stay correct.
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- sayanwita 3y agoI tried a new one yesterday using cuprous benzene. I had a long standing ML problem to solve. It did get solved yesterday! Now, finally, I can launch that product!
- BasedAnon 3y agoI feel like with enough training you could decode these in normal states of conciousness under low light conditions
- 1970-01-01 3y agoAnyone brave enough to leaf through the Voynich manuscript on their next acid trip? Maybe that's the key?
- johnea 3y agoIn an article that can only be read under the influence of js...
- teucris 3y agoCan we please stop putting things on a 1-dimensional “better/worse” scale? Even more, can we stop assuming that there is a high correlation between “processing power” and this reductive grading system? It’s clear to me that the brain, the brain on psychedelics, computers, etc are all just systems that are attuned to specific things. These tests do not show a system that is purportedly better than a sober mind using technologies to achieve the same effect - they provide some insight into how the mind, in particular the visual system, works.
- oneshtein 3y agoPlease, record this message and make an animation for a car dashboard. "IF YOU CAN READ THIS YOU ARE DRUNK! YOU CANNOT DRIVE!"
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- ImAnAmateur 3y agoCool stuff but there are some omissions that leave me wondering how correct this is. 1. What's the proper way to experience this? No information is given on how the judges experienced this content. Did they watch it in 1080p or 360p? Did they watch it over YouTube or on a local player? Did they watch it on a loop or did they have to manually play it every loop? Did they watch it in a dark room or with the lights on? Did they watch it on a phone or a monitor or a TV? 2. What is the transmission speed? How much time did someone tripping take to see the message? These methods could be ineffective if it takes someone sober the same amount of time to read the message. 3. What is the transmission method? I specifically avoided the descriptions before watching the videos so I wouldn't bias myself by knowing the answer. I was still able to read the messages when I sat myself down in a dark room, put the videos on loop, and "spaced out" for a few minutes. I suspect these messages rely on the tendancy of someone tripping to stare off into space so the afterimage effect can come into play. I understand that the authors are coming from a non-scientific background and cannot pin down the specific traits of tripping on LSD that causes these methods to be effective. I strongly suspect these messages work by watching the content in a specific manner instead of the result of an altered function or altered reception of visual stimuli.
- LoganDark 3y ago> I suspect these messages rely on the tendancy of someone tripping to stare off into space so the afterimage effect can come into play. Not necessarily. I've taken LSD before and it legitimately seems to increase persistence of vision (otherwise known as tracers). If I wave my paw in a circle on LSD, I can see a short trail behind it, and it seems to slightly lag behind its actual real-world position (by around a quarter of a second?). It looks a lot like this: https://youtu.be/ggFKLxAQBbc?t=26 https://youtu.be/ggFKLxAQBbc?t=26
- xyproto 3y agoIf this becomes widespread, I predict that police will start walking around with a cellphone app at festivals that can decode all the images.
- tanseydavid 3y ago>> Messages that can only be understood under the influence of psychedelics "I'll take Microsoft Marketing for $200"
- Aerbil313 3y agoFor anyone in pursuit of surreal experiences and reality-perspective shifts without using LSD, lucid dreaming works just great. I didn’t use LSD but from what I read, I can tell the experience is very similar. Source: I am a lucid dreamer. It’s totally learnable (if you don’t have aphantasia afaict), although the internet is full of clickbait scammers. I can recommend learning sources if anyone wants.
- gowld 3y agoHow do psychadelics affect the experience of "gradual change" illusions like: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1nL5ulsWMYc https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1nL5ulsWMYc or selective attention: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_bnnmWYI0lM https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_bnnmWYI0lM
- programmarchy 3y agoSurprised there's not more skepticism about the "Qualia Research Institute" behind this study. It's funded by the founder of Polychain Capital, which might raise some eyebrows. I also find it amusing that people in tech have a tendency to reject traditional Western religious forms, but readily adopt Eastern ones or modern New Age spinoffs, which are arguably just as bad if not worse in terms of being anti-intellectual, anti-rational, mystical, etc.
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- quitit 3y agoSeems a bit inflated to describe that it can only be understood when taking psychedelics. It takes nothing more than a long exposure mode(1) on your camera to see the image live. (1) such as: - Night mode - Fireworks mode - "Live photo -> Long exposure" - Countless other modes that do an equivalent frame layering function