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Wouldn't it make more sense to install an extension that shows the dislike count again? https://returnyoutubedislike.com/ https://returnyoutubedislike.com/ I'

by Scokee 3y ago

Wouldn't it make more sense to install an extension that shows the dislike count again? https://returnyoutubedislike.com/ https://returnyoutubedislike.com/ I've been using it since YouTube removed the dislikes and it's worked very well...

NayamAmarshe 3y ago
Remember that you can't use an extension on all browsers and on all platforms. So, having a common platform makes sense.
- gsich 3y ago
  Those should be called "crippled" platforms or browsers.
  - qwytw 3y ago
    Desktop Safari has extensions yet that plugin does not support it. At some point developing for anything but Chromium ceases to make sense since your potential users can just install Chrome, so who cares..
    - 2Gkashmiri 3y ago
      And then people say why is market share of Firefox decreasing. If extension developers spend just a little time porting their extension, then they can point either way. By forcing your customers to only support chrome, you are helping chrome build a monopoly overtye browser based internet where all extensions and work and play happens only on chrome. Please do better. And yes. I have an extension that is built for Firefox and chrome so I have some skin in the game
    - rollcat 3y ago
      > Desktop Safari has extensions As a desktop Safari user: Safari theoretically has extensions. Apple made it painful and expensive for developers to publish, and so the ecosystem is in an abysmal state, with ultimately the users losing. I'm torn between paying for extensions (that are free for other browsers) as a way to say "sincerely thank you" to those developers who bother, and absolutely not paying - to send a message, that this system sucks.
      - moffkalast 3y ago
        > Apple made it painful and expensive for developers The most Apple thing to ever have Appled.
- nntwozz 3y ago
  Return YouTube dislike is available as a toggle in setting with Yattee on iOS/macOS. The app is available on tvOS as well, it runs Piped or Invidious as the backend and filters out all the ads too. Very nice on the Apple TV. https://github.com/yattee/yattee https://github.com/yattee/yattee
- alvarezbjm-hn 3y ago
  https://www.returnyoutubedislike.com/install https://www.returnyoutubedislike.com/install Works for firefox, chrome, opera, brave, edge, tapermonkey userscript. Firefox android not supported natively, You have to use newpipe fork. I havent tried tampermonkey in ff android, be right back.
  - NayamAmarshe 3y ago
    It's actually also available as an option in Revanced too.
ttctciyf 3y ago
It's just guessing, and rather inaccurate, isn't it?[1] I don't see the point. 1: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R43m7I9GOpM https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R43m7I9GOpM
- doodlesdev 3y ago
  It's not _guessing_ per se. The dataset includes dislikes from before YouTube removed it from the API, from then onwards any dislikes in the interface while using the extension get sent to their backend and get registered. The numbers are _extrapolated_ (but not guessed) of course since not every YouTube will be using the extension. Take a look at the FAQ [0] where this is better explained. [0]: https://returnyoutubedislike.com/faq https://returnyoutubedislike.com/faq
  - katbyte 3y ago
    It’s a guess. Maybe an educated guess, but it’s still a guess.
    - mach1ne 3y ago
      Rather biased, too. Though in this case towards the preferences of the user.
    - colejohnson66 3y ago
      Strictly speaking, sure. But calling every data-extrapolated result a "guess" wrongly, IMO, lumps it in with guesses based on no evidence.
      - horsawlarway 3y ago
        I'm sorry, but the extension has a grand total of 14k users. There are some 368 million DAILY active users on youtube. It is making claims based on a dataset of roughly 0.0003% of the population of users. It's a GUESS. A bad one at that, since the people who install that extension are absolutely not representative of the general youtube user. If we expand it out to the 2.28 BILLION monthly active userbase... the data from the 14k users is basically meaningless. --- Think of it this way - if you were seconds in the day, those extension users are 25 seconds. if I were to try to measure any sort of meaningful data in a day by using 25 seconds of data, I would likely be horribly, horribly wrong. Ex: My water company billed me and it's bullshit, I've been carefully tracking usage data for 30 seconds after I wake up every day, and I never measure any usage! Why are they billing me? Holy cow, I measured our water usage today and we used a whole gallon over the 25 seconds I measured!!! We're blowing through nearly 3000 gallons a day! --- Both are horribly, horribly wrong estimates. A sample size that small is not very valuable.
Gigablah 3y ago
Well, if you're comfortable with sending your youtube view history to another website. https://github.com/Anarios/return-youtube-dislike/blob/5c73825aadb81b6bf16cd5dff2b81a88562b6634/Extensions/UserScript/Return%20Youtube%20Dislike.user.js#L403 https://github.com/Anarios/return-youtube-dislike/blob/5c738...
- Dig1t 3y ago
  ha wow, thanks for pointing that out. I just uninstalled.
  - sebzim4500 3y ago
    How did you think it was working exactly?
    - hxugufjfjf 3y ago
      People often use technology without thinking about or knowing exactly how it works.
    - Dig1t 3y ago
      By talking directly to YouTube, instead of this other random website.
- emodendroket 3y ago
  How else could it work? I guess maybe a one-way hash would provide some level of anonymity but that's the best I can think of.
  - pests 3y ago
    How would a one-way hash even work? They already have a database of views for a video by its ID. If they hash those beforehand that solves nothing. They have the actual ID for that hash - they have to, cause they need to provide you data on it. It could work similar to how haveibeenpwned works - send a prefix of the video ID and respond with a list of all matching IDs with that prefix. The server only knows the list not the actual video. The client can pull the correct ID out of the list. (this was how HIBP worked before at least, IIRC)
bertman 3y ago
This is literally in the second paragraph of the article.
Waterluvian 3y ago
I think these are actually two different things. One shows dislikes. One provides a big picture review page for whole channels.
stemlord 3y ago
Please as least click the link before posting comments
thunkshift1 3y ago
That extension wouldn’t probably last 6 months on the google owned chrome extension store
- capableweb 3y ago
  It is there already? https://chrome.google.com/webstore/detail/youtube-dislike-button/gebbhagfogifgggkldgodflihgfeippi/ https://chrome.google.com/webstore/detail/youtube-dislike-bu... Not sure how long it's been there, but it's been approved by someone, you think they'd remove it after that? Edit: looking at the reviews of the extension, it has reviews from a year ago (until I stop going backwards) so seems you're wrong
nomilk 3y ago
An extension that takes the 'rotten tomatoes' rating (from the OP site) and places it near the like/dislike icon would be useful.

by Scokee 3y ago

NayamAmarshe 3y ago

Remember that you can't use an extension on all browsers and on all platforms. So, having a common platform makes sense.

gsich 3y ago
Those should be called "crippled" platforms or browsers.
- qwytw 3y ago
  Desktop Safari has extensions yet that plugin does not support it. At some point developing for anything but Chromium ceases to make sense since your potential users can just install Chrome, so who cares..
  - 2Gkashmiri 3y ago
    And then people say why is market share of Firefox decreasing. If extension developers spend just a little time porting their extension, then they can point either way. By forcing your customers to only support chrome, you are helping chrome build a monopoly overtye browser based internet where all extensions and work and play happens only on chrome. Please do better. And yes. I have an extension that is built for Firefox and chrome so I have some skin in the game
  - rollcat 3y ago
    > Desktop Safari has extensions As a desktop Safari user: Safari theoretically has extensions. Apple made it painful and expensive for developers to publish, and so the ecosystem is in an abysmal state, with ultimately the users losing. I'm torn between paying for extensions (that are free for other browsers) as a way to say "sincerely thank you" to those developers who bother, and absolutely not paying - to send a message, that this system sucks.
    - moffkalast 3y ago
      > Apple made it painful and expensive for developers The most Apple thing to ever have Appled.
nntwozz 3y ago
Return YouTube dislike is available as a toggle in setting with Yattee on iOS/macOS. The app is available on tvOS as well, it runs Piped or Invidious as the backend and filters out all the ads too. Very nice on the Apple TV. https://github.com/yattee/yattee https://github.com/yattee/yattee
alvarezbjm-hn 3y ago
https://www.returnyoutubedislike.com/install https://www.returnyoutubedislike.com/install Works for firefox, chrome, opera, brave, edge, tapermonkey userscript. Firefox android not supported natively, You have to use newpipe fork. I havent tried tampermonkey in ff android, be right back.
- NayamAmarshe 3y ago
  It's actually also available as an option in Revanced too.

ttctciyf 3y ago

It's just guessing, and rather inaccurate, isn't it?[1] I don't see the point. 1: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R43m7I9GOpM https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R43m7I9GOpM

doodlesdev 3y ago
It's not _guessing_ per se. The dataset includes dislikes from before YouTube removed it from the API, from then onwards any dislikes in the interface while using the extension get sent to their backend and get registered. The numbers are _extrapolated_ (but not guessed) of course since not every YouTube will be using the extension. Take a look at the FAQ [0] where this is better explained. [0]: https://returnyoutubedislike.com/faq https://returnyoutubedislike.com/faq
- katbyte 3y ago
  It’s a guess. Maybe an educated guess, but it’s still a guess.
  - mach1ne 3y ago
    Rather biased, too. Though in this case towards the preferences of the user.
  - colejohnson66 3y ago
    Strictly speaking, sure. But calling every data-extrapolated result a "guess" wrongly, IMO, lumps it in with guesses based on no evidence.
    - horsawlarway 3y ago
      I'm sorry, but the extension has a grand total of 14k users. There are some 368 million DAILY active users on youtube. It is making claims based on a dataset of roughly 0.0003% of the population of users. It's a GUESS. A bad one at that, since the people who install that extension are absolutely not representative of the general youtube user. If we expand it out to the 2.28 BILLION monthly active userbase... the data from the 14k users is basically meaningless. --- Think of it this way - if you were seconds in the day, those extension users are 25 seconds. if I were to try to measure any sort of meaningful data in a day by using 25 seconds of data, I would likely be horribly, horribly wrong. Ex: My water company billed me and it's bullshit, I've been carefully tracking usage data for 30 seconds after I wake up every day, and I never measure any usage! Why are they billing me? Holy cow, I measured our water usage today and we used a whole gallon over the 25 seconds I measured!!! We're blowing through nearly 3000 gallons a day! --- Both are horribly, horribly wrong estimates. A sample size that small is not very valuable.

Gigablah 3y ago

Well, if you're comfortable with sending your youtube view history to another website. https://github.com/Anarios/return-youtube-dislike/blob/5c73825aadb81b6bf16cd5dff2b81a88562b6634/Extensions/UserScript/Return%20Youtube%20Dislike.user.js#L403 https://github.com/Anarios/return-youtube-dislike/blob/5c738...

Dig1t 3y ago
ha wow, thanks for pointing that out. I just uninstalled.
- sebzim4500 3y ago
  How did you think it was working exactly?
  - hxugufjfjf 3y ago
    People often use technology without thinking about or knowing exactly how it works.
  - Dig1t 3y ago
    By talking directly to YouTube, instead of this other random website.
emodendroket 3y ago
How else could it work? I guess maybe a one-way hash would provide some level of anonymity but that's the best I can think of.
- pests 3y ago
  How would a one-way hash even work? They already have a database of views for a video by its ID. If they hash those beforehand that solves nothing. They have the actual ID for that hash - they have to, cause they need to provide you data on it. It could work similar to how haveibeenpwned works - send a prefix of the video ID and respond with a list of all matching IDs with that prefix. The server only knows the list not the actual video. The client can pull the correct ID out of the list. (this was how HIBP worked before at least, IIRC)

bertman 3y ago

This is literally in the second paragraph of the article.

Waterluvian 3y ago

I think these are actually two different things. One shows dislikes. One provides a big picture review page for whole channels.

stemlord 3y ago

Please as least click the link before posting comments

thunkshift1 3y ago

That extension wouldn’t probably last 6 months on the google owned chrome extension store

capableweb 3y ago
It is there already? https://chrome.google.com/webstore/detail/youtube-dislike-button/gebbhagfogifgggkldgodflihgfeippi/ https://chrome.google.com/webstore/detail/youtube-dislike-bu... Not sure how long it's been there, but it's been approved by someone, you think they'd remove it after that? Edit: looking at the reviews of the extension, it has reviews from a year ago (until I stop going backwards) so seems you're wrong

nomilk 3y ago

An extension that takes the 'rotten tomatoes' rating (from the OP site) and places it near the like/dislike icon would be useful.