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The left in america votes blue no matter because idpol and maybe climate, the only nationally palitable Left ideas since Marxism any class are anathema to USA,

The left in america votes blue no matter because idpol and maybe climate, the only nationally palitable Left ideas since Marxism any class are anathema to USA, particularly since fall of USSR.

bdamm 3y ago
Nah; the 2016 election saw many "leftists" that were dedicated to Sanders go on to vote for Trump.
- wk_end 3y ago
  I know establishment Dems liked to whine about that, but is there any evidence that this actually happened in meaningful numbers?
  - mrguyorama 3y ago
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  - WhatWorkingOn 3y ago
    I and many other people I know did. I saw Sanders get snubbed and schemed against by the DNC, to the point where Hillary got the questions ahead of time. So many gaffes in this campaign between two "equal" Democratic candidates that we just don't talk about anymore. No, I refuse to play that game and I'd rather burn the place to the ground and suffer together than walk willingly to my own execution.
    - dekhn 3y ago
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    - singleshot_ 3y ago
      “I think I should have more of my richer neighbors’ money and if I don’t get it I’ll vote for trump ahaha” isn’t the own that you probably think it is, but this is very illustrative nevertheless.
    - smolder 3y ago
      Thanks. I've never met a single person who flopped from Sanders to Trump. I can't for the life of me figure out how you'd make that leap. I thought that the stories about people doing that were mostly BS, but I guess there are a few of you out there, assuming you didn't make this account to LARP as a Bernie turned Trump voter.
- graublau 3y ago
  "Drain the swamp" leftists are separate category to DSA members and almost nonexistent post-COVID (RFK JR. maybe). Is this beyond explanation why someone would do that?
- nonethewiser 3y ago
  Sanders is Marxist?
- kodah 3y ago
  I think there's a good amount of debate in leftist circles whether Sanders is actually a global leftist or if he's just an American progressive. The two are categorically unalike, which would agree with other comments that any form of Democrat and Republican are just symbiotes attached to the same thing.
- HPsquared 3y ago
  That's the "insider/outsider" thing. Trump is a rightist outsider, Bernie a leftist outsider. Both are favoured by "anti-establishment" types.
  - asdff 3y ago
    Trump merely coopted the fig leaf of outsider to sway voters, since he did get full support of the GOP establishment unlike Sanders.
  - graublau 3y ago
    How is he? Literally campaigned on turning US into EU/Scandinavia? Anti-establishment is the going currency, you could say the same for Biden's rhetoric.

The left in america votes blue no matter because idpol and maybe climate, the only nationally palitable Left ideas since Marxism any class are anathema to USA, particularly since fall of USSR.

bdamm 3y ago

Nah; the 2016 election saw many "leftists" that were dedicated to Sanders go on to vote for Trump.

wk_end 3y ago
I know establishment Dems liked to whine about that, but is there any evidence that this actually happened in meaningful numbers?
- mrguyorama 3y ago
  [flagged]
- WhatWorkingOn 3y ago
  I and many other people I know did. I saw Sanders get snubbed and schemed against by the DNC, to the point where Hillary got the questions ahead of time. So many gaffes in this campaign between two "equal" Democratic candidates that we just don't talk about anymore. No, I refuse to play that game and I'd rather burn the place to the ground and suffer together than walk willingly to my own execution.
  - dekhn 3y ago
    [flagged]
  - singleshot_ 3y ago
    “I think I should have more of my richer neighbors’ money and if I don’t get it I’ll vote for trump ahaha” isn’t the own that you probably think it is, but this is very illustrative nevertheless.
  - smolder 3y ago
    Thanks. I've never met a single person who flopped from Sanders to Trump. I can't for the life of me figure out how you'd make that leap. I thought that the stories about people doing that were mostly BS, but I guess there are a few of you out there, assuming you didn't make this account to LARP as a Bernie turned Trump voter.
graublau 3y ago
"Drain the swamp" leftists are separate category to DSA members and almost nonexistent post-COVID (RFK JR. maybe). Is this beyond explanation why someone would do that?
nonethewiser 3y ago
Sanders is Marxist?
kodah 3y ago
I think there's a good amount of debate in leftist circles whether Sanders is actually a global leftist or if he's just an American progressive. The two are categorically unalike, which would agree with other comments that any form of Democrat and Republican are just symbiotes attached to the same thing.
HPsquared 3y ago
That's the "insider/outsider" thing. Trump is a rightist outsider, Bernie a leftist outsider. Both are favoured by "anti-establishment" types.
- asdff 3y ago
  Trump merely coopted the fig leaf of outsider to sway voters, since he did get full support of the GOP establishment unlike Sanders.
- graublau 3y ago
  How is he? Literally campaigned on turning US into EU/Scandinavia? Anti-establishment is the going currency, you could say the same for Biden's rhetoric.