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I oftentimes miss the internet before YouTube so that instead of a link to 20 minute video there would be a link to an article instead that I could consume and

I oftentimes miss the internet before YouTube so that instead of a link to 20 minute video there would be a link to an article instead that I could consume and understand in 5 minutes while still feeling that I'm consuming slow internet instead of moving pictures.

FpUser 3y ago
>"I could consume and understand in 5 minutes" Same here. Except that I do not "consume" articles. I read them fuckers.
theossuary 3y ago
I certainly don't. I learn much better from videos with graphics and audio than from dense text. To each their own I guess.
- rcme 3y ago
  The issue with video is that there isn't really an efficient way to "skim." So, for those who can learn from text, learning from a video is like 100x slower.
  - hdjjhhvvhga 3y ago
    I 100 agree. I would love a service that would automatically transcribe all the text spoken in the video so that I would be able to absorb the knowledge 2 orders of magnitude faster.
    - wrycoder 3y ago
      And YouTube transcripts are awful.
    - anonymouskimmer 3y ago
      For many informative videos the service would need to be good at excerpting relevant images (and ideally summarizing them in text for the blind). Maybe by focusing on areas that are unchanged during a period of time (such as when graphs or pictures are being talked about).
    - ngcc_hk 3y ago
      Usually you have say a few days ago. Turn on cc in a web YouTube, not app. Then in the row you can like you can find an option to see the caption in transcript. Seem no longer.
  - LeifCarrotson 3y ago
    Youtube has a transcript for automatic closed captions, and Sabine's here actually has been hand-written and even has some headings so it's much better than most. I do feel a bit of surprise every time I read about the massive popularity of Youtube, or hear from a friend how they love the 2020s because they learned to do some bit of home improvement or car maintenance by watching a video. I wanted to learn how to frame an accessory building, so I went to the library and picked up "The Very Efficient Carpenter" by Larry Haun, when I needed to replace the water pump in my new car car I got a Haynes manual. On the other hand, engineering school seemed at times to be a test to filter out anyone who wasn't capable of ingesting massive amounts of text in a short amount of time, which did well to prepare me for my career, which mainly consists of gleaning data from enormous PDFs, so maybe my cohort is unique in this ability.
    - theossuary 3y ago
      I understand where you're coming from, and it isn't like I can't consume a 300 page PDF in a sitting when I need to, or it's the best way. But honestly doing it is a chore, and I don't enjoy it. For work I'm fine reading specs and RFCs. But at home I'd rather spend a bit more time and enjoy the process more. Also, I find videos tend to communicate more, better. For example when I needed to learn how to drywall, I could have picked up a book about it. But drywalling is more about feel and experience. Watching a video and seeing their technique and what the finished product should look like before it has dried is way more educational. The reason I wrote my original comment was to point out that these types of comments (I prefer this, I prefer that) don't really add anything to a conversation. I guess I should have spelled that out instead of assuming people would make the connection.
    - c22 3y ago
      Larry Haun has an excellent video series about framing also. I watched it for free on youtube then spent my money on the applicable IBC code reference.
  - inconceivable 3y ago
    yeah there is. put it to 1.5x or 2x with '>', turn on CC (or not) with 'c' and hit the vim key bindings. or i just do a manual binary search with the scroller. did you also know that , and . will go frame by frame?
- flashgordon 3y ago
  +1. I am not sure why you were downvoted though. Some folks are visual and some prefer reading. For me it "depends". I am somewhere in between and even based on the kind of project. For code etc I absolutely hate videos. Ikea stuff - that imagery definitely helps. For learning sport or instrument playing technique videos are a god send (imagine reading a description of how to pucker your lips when playing the French horn). Having to sit through someones monolog and "production" can be annoying (sadly I get that they are driven to doing it for the sake of engagement).
- burnished 3y ago
  Maybe part of it is the sense that many videos are padded to be more advertiser friendly, and that what could have been text, or a concise and effective two minute video, is instead a 15 minute attempt to use your eyeballs to make money.
83 3y ago
This is especially true for vehicle repairs. Often what could be accomplished in 2 paragraphs and some pictures is instead a 15 minute production you have to sit through to make sure you don't miss a step.
- flir 3y ago
  From the position of someone very insecure about vehicle repairs, I prefer the video. From the position of someone very confident about server management, I prefer the text. Horses for courses and all that.
- panopticon 3y ago
  I actually prefer the video for that kind of stuff. My gripe is when a 2 minute video is milked out to 15 minutes of background story, affiliate link plugs, and other useless noise.
  - eschneider 3y ago
    Yeah, there's some of that, but hey, you can always fast-forward not to mention freeze and replay the interesting/confusing bits.
- boosteri 3y ago
  On top of that (and maybe I'm just clumsy with controls) I can easily jump back and forth and re-read the text a few times if I need to. It's very difficult to rewind the video to exactly the same position you need it to.
quaintdev 3y ago
Oh don't worry we are not far from future where a browser extension will show summary of entire YouTube video as a tooltip with help of GPT. You just will have to hover the link.
- amelius 3y ago
  What will happen to all the advertising money?
  - saiya-jin 3y ago
    Free version will of course have penis enlargement recommendation and another almost unrelated ad, both unskipable. Premium will outright book you visit to penis enlargement clinic based on your IP browsing history from 20 years ago, saving you your precious time and adding a groupon discount.
mitthrowaway2 3y ago
Okay, here you go: https://web.archive.org/web/20061206154951/http://www.atmosphere.mpg.de/enid/20c.html https://web.archive.org/web/20061206154951/http://www.atmosp...
- levidos 3y ago
  I just wish there was a YouTube video that explains this so that I can do chores instead of reading pages of walls of texts..
burnte 3y ago
I'll spend 20 minutes looking for more versions in text if I find videos first, and only watch the video as a last resort. I'm sure we're just a year away from someone hooking YouTube to ChatGPT and then it writes article versions of videos, and we'll have come full circle.
- plagiarist 3y ago
  Helpfully replacing the customary in-video ad for Nord VPN with its own affiliate link, of course.
wintermutestwin 3y ago
https://youtube-summary.fly.dev/ https://youtube-summary.fly.dev/ https://www.you-tldr.com/ https://www.you-tldr.com/ https://www.summarize.tech/ https://www.summarize.tech/ etc...

FpUser 3y ago

>"I could consume and understand in 5 minutes" Same here. Except that I do not "consume" articles. I read them fuckers.

theossuary 3y ago

I certainly don't. I learn much better from videos with graphics and audio than from dense text. To each their own I guess.

rcme 3y ago
The issue with video is that there isn't really an efficient way to "skim." So, for those who can learn from text, learning from a video is like 100x slower.
- hdjjhhvvhga 3y ago
  I 100 agree. I would love a service that would automatically transcribe all the text spoken in the video so that I would be able to absorb the knowledge 2 orders of magnitude faster.
  - wrycoder 3y ago
    And YouTube transcripts are awful.
  - anonymouskimmer 3y ago
    For many informative videos the service would need to be good at excerpting relevant images (and ideally summarizing them in text for the blind). Maybe by focusing on areas that are unchanged during a period of time (such as when graphs or pictures are being talked about).
  - ngcc_hk 3y ago
    Usually you have say a few days ago. Turn on cc in a web YouTube, not app. Then in the row you can like you can find an option to see the caption in transcript. Seem no longer.
- LeifCarrotson 3y ago
  Youtube has a transcript for automatic closed captions, and Sabine's here actually has been hand-written and even has some headings so it's much better than most. I do feel a bit of surprise every time I read about the massive popularity of Youtube, or hear from a friend how they love the 2020s because they learned to do some bit of home improvement or car maintenance by watching a video. I wanted to learn how to frame an accessory building, so I went to the library and picked up "The Very Efficient Carpenter" by Larry Haun, when I needed to replace the water pump in my new car car I got a Haynes manual. On the other hand, engineering school seemed at times to be a test to filter out anyone who wasn't capable of ingesting massive amounts of text in a short amount of time, which did well to prepare me for my career, which mainly consists of gleaning data from enormous PDFs, so maybe my cohort is unique in this ability.
  - theossuary 3y ago
    I understand where you're coming from, and it isn't like I can't consume a 300 page PDF in a sitting when I need to, or it's the best way. But honestly doing it is a chore, and I don't enjoy it. For work I'm fine reading specs and RFCs. But at home I'd rather spend a bit more time and enjoy the process more. Also, I find videos tend to communicate more, better. For example when I needed to learn how to drywall, I could have picked up a book about it. But drywalling is more about feel and experience. Watching a video and seeing their technique and what the finished product should look like before it has dried is way more educational. The reason I wrote my original comment was to point out that these types of comments (I prefer this, I prefer that) don't really add anything to a conversation. I guess I should have spelled that out instead of assuming people would make the connection.
  - c22 3y ago
    Larry Haun has an excellent video series about framing also. I watched it for free on youtube then spent my money on the applicable IBC code reference.
- inconceivable 3y ago
  yeah there is. put it to 1.5x or 2x with '>', turn on CC (or not) with 'c' and hit the vim key bindings. or i just do a manual binary search with the scroller. did you also know that , and . will go frame by frame?
flashgordon 3y ago
+1. I am not sure why you were downvoted though. Some folks are visual and some prefer reading. For me it "depends". I am somewhere in between and even based on the kind of project. For code etc I absolutely hate videos. Ikea stuff - that imagery definitely helps. For learning sport or instrument playing technique videos are a god send (imagine reading a description of how to pucker your lips when playing the French horn). Having to sit through someones monolog and "production" can be annoying (sadly I get that they are driven to doing it for the sake of engagement).
burnished 3y ago
Maybe part of it is the sense that many videos are padded to be more advertiser friendly, and that what could have been text, or a concise and effective two minute video, is instead a 15 minute attempt to use your eyeballs to make money.

83 3y ago

This is especially true for vehicle repairs. Often what could be accomplished in 2 paragraphs and some pictures is instead a 15 minute production you have to sit through to make sure you don't miss a step.

flir 3y ago
From the position of someone very insecure about vehicle repairs, I prefer the video. From the position of someone very confident about server management, I prefer the text. Horses for courses and all that.
panopticon 3y ago
I actually prefer the video for that kind of stuff. My gripe is when a 2 minute video is milked out to 15 minutes of background story, affiliate link plugs, and other useless noise.
- eschneider 3y ago
  Yeah, there's some of that, but hey, you can always fast-forward not to mention freeze and replay the interesting/confusing bits.
boosteri 3y ago
On top of that (and maybe I'm just clumsy with controls) I can easily jump back and forth and re-read the text a few times if I need to. It's very difficult to rewind the video to exactly the same position you need it to.

quaintdev 3y ago

Oh don't worry we are not far from future where a browser extension will show summary of entire YouTube video as a tooltip with help of GPT. You just will have to hover the link.

amelius 3y ago
What will happen to all the advertising money?
- saiya-jin 3y ago
  Free version will of course have penis enlargement recommendation and another almost unrelated ad, both unskipable. Premium will outright book you visit to penis enlargement clinic based on your IP browsing history from 20 years ago, saving you your precious time and adding a groupon discount.

mitthrowaway2 3y ago

Okay, here you go: https://web.archive.org/web/20061206154951/http://www.atmosphere.mpg.de/enid/20c.html https://web.archive.org/web/20061206154951/http://www.atmosp...

levidos 3y ago
I just wish there was a YouTube video that explains this so that I can do chores instead of reading pages of walls of texts..

burnte 3y ago

I'll spend 20 minutes looking for more versions in text if I find videos first, and only watch the video as a last resort. I'm sure we're just a year away from someone hooking YouTube to ChatGPT and then it writes article versions of videos, and we'll have come full circle.

plagiarist 3y ago
Helpfully replacing the customary in-video ad for Nord VPN with its own affiliate link, of course.

wintermutestwin 3y ago

https://youtube-summary.fly.dev/ https://youtube-summary.fly.dev/ https://www.you-tldr.com/ https://www.you-tldr.com/ https://www.summarize.tech/ https://www.summarize.tech/ etc...