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Unity fires manager who tweeted the company is “out of touch”
- tapoxi 3y agoShe named the person that made the comment in the replies. Dragging a specific coworker through the mud publicly on Twitter is probably not the best move.
- yakubin 3y agoWhere by "coworker" you mean "exec". Not really a vulnerable person (as evidenced by their leaked comment).
- SpicyLemonZest 3y agoNot vulnerable, sure. But even accounting for title inflation a "senior partner relations manager" doesn't sound like a random line employee. It's very hard to run a company with leadership publicly sniping at each other.
- akhosravian 3y agoThat role is a random line employee. "Partner Relations Manager" is a role that interfaces with customers of Unity with Enterprise licenses. They don't have direct reports. The "Carol" in question is Unity's CMO.
- SpicyLemonZest 3y agoUgh, they have to know that's a confusing title. This story does concern me a bit more then.
- eclipxe 3y agoIt totally sounds like a random line employee. Partner Relations Manager just means they interface with external customers. Senior just means they probably aren’t a new grad. It’s a regular old line position.
- ncr100 3y agoWhy do you think a woman executive is not vulnerable?
- fauxpause_ 3y agoBecause she is renting a second apartment in SF for convenience
- ncr100 3y agoI see - thanks.
- lordfrito 3y agoWhy not just come out and call the exec an "unperson" /s
- Cenk 3y agoBy first name
- snapcaster 3y agoAs someone who doesn't use social media this behavior is just baffling to me. Does this woman not have real life friends who she can bitch about work with? Why are people self sabotaging like this?
- pengaru 3y agoIf you make it extremely convenient for people to accidentally hang themselves, a non-zero fraction of the population will do so.
- ucm_edge 3y agoOn one hand people definitely will shoot themselves in the foot by oversharing on social media. Another trend I've been seeing (speaking a general sense, I know no knowledge of this particular case) is that people who have been laid off will pull a stunt like this to try to 'go viral' and get a job. I have no idea if it works or the wisdom of it, but I've seen about a half dozen people in my network who I know were laid off in a general and impersonal layoff post sob stories about being fired by an unreasonable and mean boss. We also fired a guy who posted about being laid off from our company, despite our company not going layoffs. Legal had to send him a little reminder about the terms he signed when we offered severance and that falsely the company feels claiming the company is doing layoffs is damaging to the company. Overall I feel like I have become aware of more people trying to position their termination in ways that aren't truthful but they feel are more advantageous for generating interest from future employers.
- JumpCrisscross 3y ago> they feel are more advantageous for generating interest from future employers I'd love to see data on this. Old advice guides against hiring such people, since they're liable to return the favor on you. But maybe the cost-benefit has changed.
- hammyhavoc 3y agoThink about the positive public sentiment gained from turning a bad situation into a good one by coming to someone's aid in their time of need. >gag
- bllguo 3y agoThey're out of touch for thinking that tweeting this out wouldn't have consequences. Regardless of the validity of the criticism, publicly attacking your own employer is a stupid move if you want to stay there. I cannot sympathize
- mc32 3y agoTo me there are two aspects: People should freely be able to have opinions on Twitter, Youtube, TikTok, CBS News, etc. and those opinions should not get them fired from their jobs just because some exec or some vocal group disagrees... as long as they're not representing the company. "I work for Pepsi and think the President is "..." for example. On the other hand, unless it's whistleblowing, badmouthing your company to a broadcast audience when you don't have the imprimatur to do it, will most likely have consequences. Broadcast communications are the purview of The PR dept. This is for the PR dept to handle. You can opine it with your friends, family, etc. but not to a broad audience like that, unless you are considering the consequences.
- porkbeer 3y agoI think your political views shouldn't, but producing bad pr for your company has clear, verifiable, and obvious damage to your company is grounds for dismissal. Many emplyment contracts already stipulate such things as that, and additionally, could be possibly construed as unauthorized communication in the name of the business. While I would not likely personally fire someone for posting such things, I would for the attitude that begat them. Self sabatouging people are a net burden on any enterprise.
- mc32 3y agoI agree with your points. There is an intersection between free speech and contracts with a company --sometimes it's murky and it's best to avoid a conflict of interest --unless that's what you're looking for.
- bxparks 3y agoYou get an upvote for teaching me a new word today, "imprimatur". It looked like a typo.
- Cenk 3y ago“a Unity exec just shared that they rent a secondary apt in SF to make it easier to be in the office- maybe we should all just do this to make it easier to RTO? This company has lost it. Completely out of touch. Renting an apt in SF would cost me over half my gross mothly salary :( Probably 3/4 of my takehome at least” I agree with her
- tyleo 3y agoI agree with the substance but I don’t agree with airing dirty laundry on Twitter. I’m not an exec but I’ve said things at work I regret. I’m sure many of us have. You just say a stupid thing here or there sometimes. It seems destructive to bring that all out publicly on Twitter.
- CydeWeys 3y agoSometimes you're willing to take a risk to help effect change. If everyone keeps their heads down and never fights back then things don't improve.
- tmpz22 3y agoIf everyone stayed externally silent on internal issues the world would be a much worse place.
- ncr100 3y agoThat oversimplifies this situation because an employer, regardless of it having outrageous work environment characteristics, has a responsibility to its employees. Like, in court. One employee is now terminated for having reasonably driven vitriol from random internet Twitter users to another, by name.
- tmpz22 3y agoTotally fair - life has nuance and its not clear cut moral high-ground to air all grievances on Twitter. > That oversimplifies this situation because an employer, regardless of it having outrageous work environment characteristics, has a responsibility to its employees. Like, in court. Butttttt I gotta say companies routinely violate said legal obligations and intentionally commit resources to continued abuse of said obligations - knowing individuals lack the resources to fight back or institute meaningful change through legal recourse without great cost.
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- TheChaplain 3y agoInteresting that this thread doesn't show up on the front page? Currently it's 38 points with 18 comments, while "Chaos Communication Camp 2023 – Call for Participation" have 3 pt, zero comments but is on the front page. Odd algorithm...
- dack 3y agoI'm just wondering if she wanted to quit but did this on purpose to get fired instead? i.e. severance pay?