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I've met more than one hiring manager who tacitly refuses to hire anyone who is transgendered. Of course this is only revealed in confidence, and they'll deny i
by begno 3y ago
I've met more than one hiring manager who tacitly refuses to hire anyone who is transgendered. Of course this is only revealed in confidence, and they'll deny it if asked.
The reason is typically one or more of:
- they don't want the rest of the team to have to walk on eggshells regarding pronouns and so on, or
- they don't want to have to deal with any fallout from female employees getting pissed about males using their bathroom, or
- they've had a bad experience hiring a transgender previously (typically due to the previous two reasons) and don't want to repeat it with another.
Kind of sucks for the transgendered applicants, but understandable I suppose, given the circumstances these days.
- refulgentis 3y agoIt's not understandable. Some things you don't let yourself do and speak up when other people do.
- CoastalCoder 3y agoPerhaps parent and GP comments are using different definitions of "understandable".
- refulgentis 3y ago“It depends on what the meaning of is, is”
- 0xcde4c3db 3y agoAnd frankly, my experience has been that people with such "concerns" tend to also have corresponding ones for other minorities.
- refulgentis 3y ago100%, I learned this early via that in a comanager.
- lliamander 3y agoAs is the case with many anti-discrimination policies, often the actual result can be the opposite of what was intended. Many employees are not comfortable with the accommodations for trans colleagues required of them by their employer (and by our current legal environment). Those employees don't really have a means to have their concerns addressed: it is either comply or quit/get fired. A way around that is to simply avoid hiring trans people. That you do not understand those concerns does mean they are not understandable.
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- ajross 3y ago> Kind of sucks for the transgendered applicants, but understandable I suppose, given the circumstances these days. Yikes. That's true in exactly the same way that segregation kinda sucked for the black kids, but was understandable given the circumstances of the postbellum south. Discrimination against a minority solely for the social conveniences of the majority is a terrible sin. Haven't we had this fight a thousand times already? Why do it again?
- tonymillion 3y agoThank you for this comment, I was just about to rage and you eloquently expressed a great reply! In addition I was about to add: How about the manager not use their internal prejudices to influence their decision and hide behind a thin veil of “what about my employees” and actually let their employees LEARN how to correctly interact with transgendered, queer, ethnically diverse co-workers and possibly come out of their cotton-wool lined shells. It would be better for all of us, right?
- throw491 3y ago[flagged]
- ajross 3y agoWhat if you had an employee who was horrified at their coworkers' eternal damnation and worked tirelessly to save their souls? Seems like that might cause friction as well. Seems like we might have a standard answer for that sort of friction that works for most environments. The bulk of which, frankly, is just "don't be an asshole". But at the margins, we back that up with "at the very least, don't discriminate and refuse to hire the trans/christians/muslims/whatever, that's just awful".
- throw491 3y ago[flagged]
- ikiris 3y agoI've literally met people who brag about trashing resumes with pronouns, openly because they think they're immune to consequences.
- pcthrowaway 3y agoIt's a common enough sentiment here and on reddit when the topic comes up. But if Blind is any indication, it's possible more people would trash a resume that lists pronouns before just... using it to inform how they address the candidate
- mikrl 3y agoI’ve heard of managers who are so inclusive of trans women that they talk down to them and give them menial clerical tasks (as an engineer) as if they were cis women.