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> By watching the video with adblock and etc. you are just "stealing" content Would you also argue that a TV viewer that goes to the bathroom or the refrigerat
by mikae1 3y ago
> By watching the video with adblock and etc. you are just "stealing" content
Would you also argue that a TV viewer that goes to the bathroom or the refrigerator in the commercial breaks steals content? Everyone avoids ads if they know how to.
- Riverheart 3y agoThis example is comparing apples to oranges. We’re already paying for cable, we just watch ads because because there’s only one or two cable companies in town and they both show ads. If we could pay more to show no ads we would but it’s not an option. Netflix was letting us live the dream before every content producer decided to build their own streaming competitor, crippling their catalogue. If you’re donating to GP skip their ads.
- CapsAdmin 3y agoYou could argue that you're stealing their extra revenue though. The "problem" (I'm in favor of skipping ads) is that a business has setup a way to make money based on some theoretical consumer model, and they would prefer if the consumer behaves like their model. However when consumers are easily able to control the product they will avoid anything that is unpleasant and only consume the thing that they actually want.
- Riverheart 3y agoAs long as you’re paying more than they’re making in ads per person I think it’s fine but there’s nothing saying you can’t consume ads as well. Ideally the producer sets the donation price and provides a way to disable ads if you’re donating. Extra revenue can come from higher pledges and merch but isn’t guaranteed.
- ec109685 3y agoYouTube premium lets you avoid most ads without having to frequently go to the bathroom or install extra software.
- AkBKukU 3y agoThat is different from the intentional act of installing an adblock or the Youtube specific sponsor blocker. You must decide to do that, not happen to walk out of the room while it is on. My problem is with the above post is the lack of moral accountability of the *blockers by acting like they are doing it for some superior reason when it is self serving.
- branon 3y agoI can also decide to walk out of the room, check my phone, ignore the ads, etc The problem with this part of your argument is that it ignores free will, and conflates morals with ethics. Blocking ads is a moral imperative for me, because I decide which programming I watch. The self-serving reasoning and the superior logical reasoning are one and the same. Ethically, it might also be wrong to do. But not for the reasons you describe here.
- AkBKukU 3y agoI'm less interested in the semantic differences between "morals" and "ethics", I like old computers, not philosophy. If you are taking something out of a system while intentionally preventing contributing back to it, you know you are having a negative impact. I would prefer someone either make their stand by boycotting something they disagree with entirely or admit that it has value and pay with time for ads or directly. But acting like you disagree with the material while still engaging with it and depriving the creator is immature and selfish.
- celdon25 3y agoThen find another platform that doesn't artificially incentivize longer videos filled with crap. And I'm not even talking about the advertising, which is easy to skip. I'm talking about the fact that videos don't get to the point, lowering the signal-to-noise ratio. It is a cultural abomination. I stopped trusting Youtube as soon as they added the 10 minute rule for monetization. That was quite awhile ago. You didn't see this coming and now you're blaming the viewers that are tired of having their time wasted and faith in humanity eroded from this crap. Don't make it our problem, we've dealt with it enough already.