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We do have a paid offering. Basically it's free on Linen's domain for public communities and we let you host on your domain like: https://archive.pulumi.com/ h

We do have a paid offering. Basically it's free on Linen's domain for public communities and we let you host on your domain like: https://archive.pulumi.com/ https://archive.pulumi.com/ https://linen.prefect.io/ https://linen.prefect.io/ https://slack-chats.kotlinlang.org/ https://slack-chats.kotlinlang.org/

urbandw311er 3y ago
And you guarantee in writing that this pricing structure will never change?
- wg0 3y ago
  VC game will get crazy. Most VC backed products will have their end day like Twitter has almost. Initial and middle Investors kept passing the pie to the next bigger fool and the last bigger fool is now stuck with a very expensive web property desperate to recoup the investment let alone a 10x return. Sounds like a Bitcoin food chain. And then - aggressive monitization, price hikes staff cuts, SLAs adjustments etc.
  - MichaelZuo 3y ago
    I doubt it, VC firms and their principals have a reputation, and the community is not so big that they can endlessly pass the buck like this, without suffering consequences.
    - wg0 3y ago
      This isn't a game of reputation, fundamentally. In current economic climate if a VC is only getting 4x return on their initial investment and not the usual 10x, they'll say "oh wait, we think this 4x is still over priced, market might slump further and we care for our reputation so much therefore, please pay us only 2x" or they'll say "selling at 4x would ruin our reputation therefore let us not sell at all"? This is the classic VC cycle, companies get sold to the next one for higher gains till the last buyer cannot find any further buyer that can pay even inflated prices neither the stock market responds that much so they end up squeezing every bit of juice of the company by raising prices, reducing free features and what not. Heroku is one example.I can count a dozen more.
- Aeolun 3y ago
  That wouldn’t mean anything the moment they get bought.
- kamranjon 3y ago
  If you want you can just host your own no? It's open source: https://github.com/linen-dev/linen.dev https://github.com/linen-dev/linen.dev

urbandw311er 3y ago

And you guarantee in writing that this pricing structure will never change?

wg0 3y ago
VC game will get crazy. Most VC backed products will have their end day like Twitter has almost. Initial and middle Investors kept passing the pie to the next bigger fool and the last bigger fool is now stuck with a very expensive web property desperate to recoup the investment let alone a 10x return. Sounds like a Bitcoin food chain. And then - aggressive monitization, price hikes staff cuts, SLAs adjustments etc.
- MichaelZuo 3y ago
  I doubt it, VC firms and their principals have a reputation, and the community is not so big that they can endlessly pass the buck like this, without suffering consequences.
  - wg0 3y ago
    This isn't a game of reputation, fundamentally. In current economic climate if a VC is only getting 4x return on their initial investment and not the usual 10x, they'll say "oh wait, we think this 4x is still over priced, market might slump further and we care for our reputation so much therefore, please pay us only 2x" or they'll say "selling at 4x would ruin our reputation therefore let us not sell at all"? This is the classic VC cycle, companies get sold to the next one for higher gains till the last buyer cannot find any further buyer that can pay even inflated prices neither the stock market responds that much so they end up squeezing every bit of juice of the company by raising prices, reducing free features and what not. Heroku is one example.I can count a dozen more.
Aeolun 3y ago
That wouldn’t mean anything the moment they get bought.
kamranjon 3y ago
If you want you can just host your own no? It's open source: https://github.com/linen-dev/linen.dev https://github.com/linen-dev/linen.dev