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I love Apple Pay. Being able to simply tap my watch to get through just about any MTA (New York City transit) turnstile makes every other public transit experie

I love Apple Pay. Being able to simply tap my watch to get through just about any MTA (New York City transit) turnstile makes every other public transit experience practically unbearable by comparison. The execution is flawless.

jtokoph 4y ago
This was doubly amazing in a recent vacation to Japan. We were able to provision a local transit card (Pasmo) from within the Wallet app and load funds with a credit card we already had in Wallet.
- mb7733 4y ago
  In Vancouver you can just pay directly with your credit card or debit card (or google wallet, apple pay, whatever). No loading of a separate account. It's really handy if you're just visiting.
- tkgally 4y ago
  Long-time Japan resident here. I haven’t travelled outside Japan for quite a while so I don’t have a good sense of how payments work in daily life elsewhere. Here, the big convenience store chains now accept a couple of dozen different types of contactless, swipe, or QR code payments [1, 2, 3 (in Japanese)]. However, cash is also widely used, and many smaller businesses still accept only cash [4, 5 (ditto)]. [1] https://www.sej.co.jp/services/cash.html https://www.sej.co.jp/services/cash.html [2] https://www.family.co.jp/services/payment.html https://www.family.co.jp/services/payment.html [3] https://www.lawson.co.jp/service/payment/settlement/index.html https://www.lawson.co.jp/service/payment/settlement/index.ht... [4] https://www.caa.go.jp/policies/policy/consumer_policy/meeting_materials/assets/internet_committee_221021_02.pdf https://www.caa.go.jp/policies/policy/consumer_policy/meetin... [5] https://dentsu-ho.com/articles/8187 https://dentsu-ho.com/articles/8187
Freedom2 4y ago
> every other This has been a common scenario for many countries and cities around the world, for a long time, before the MTA introduced it, with similar flawless execution. Just off the top of my head, London, Singapore, Sydney, Japan and South Korea. I remember when Americans were initially hostile to NFC payments almost a decade ago, but I guess times change?
- xnx 4y ago
  > This has been a common scenario for many countries and cities around the world By using a watch or a card? A watch is 10x better than a card because it's always available, even when your hands are full.
  - senttoschool 4y ago
    What happens if the Watch runs out of battery?
    - wenc 4y ago
      That never happens and I wear my Apple Watch all day and all night (for sleep tracking) except for when I shower -- I plop it on my charger once a day when I shower and it charges to full during my shower (it doesn't take that long for the Watch to charge to full) iOS devices also have Power Reserve, which lets you use wallet and express transit for up to 5 hours even after your battery is out of juice. https://www.idownloadblog.com/2022/01/13/apple-power-reserve-guide/ https://www.idownloadblog.com/2022/01/13/apple-power-reserve...
      - bombolo 4y ago
        Never runs out of charge… needs recharging daily? How do these 2 not conflict?
        mikepurvis 4y ago
        Just that there's a routine in place which ensures it always gets the required charge without it needing to be especially planned for.
        bombolo 4y ago
        I'm sure it works great when you're travelling /s
pbreit 4y ago
Anyone who uses Apple Pay knows it is the way payments get made in the future. The narrative that it is some sort of failure is completely wrong.
Shorel 4y ago
I don't know. I live in a city in Europe. I get my wallet out, put it close to the ticket reader in any metro station, bus, tramway or trolley in the city, and it works just as flawlessly. The only difference is between a wallet and a watch, which is a very tiny difference, IMO.
- Faaak 4y ago
  I'd say one of the main differences is that some NFC cards don't have anti-collision features and won't work next to other NFC cards. Thus, when you have your travel pass + credit card + ID card (mine is NFC), it doesn't work and you have to take it out. Hopefully, in Switzerland you don't need to tap/read a ticket before boarding any public transport, so it makes it a bit easier
  - zamnos 4y ago
    Given how cold it gets in the winter (around or below freezing) in various parts of Europe, getting a wallet with anti-RFID lining and a compartment outside of that, a purse or bag with a pocket on the bottom or side, or gloves with a pocket on the back of it, or this watch thing, or really anything that lets you run your travel card without having to take off your gloves is well worth the cost.
- rockbruno 4y ago
  Maybe it's because I'm really lazy, but the wallet vs watch thing makes a huge difference for me. I hate having to pick up my phone or wallet from my pockets, being able to pay from my Apple Watch is such a game changer that it became the only reason I even have one.

jtokoph 4y ago

This was doubly amazing in a recent vacation to Japan. We were able to provision a local transit card (Pasmo) from within the Wallet app and load funds with a credit card we already had in Wallet.

mb7733 4y ago
In Vancouver you can just pay directly with your credit card or debit card (or google wallet, apple pay, whatever). No loading of a separate account. It's really handy if you're just visiting.
tkgally 4y ago
Long-time Japan resident here. I haven’t travelled outside Japan for quite a while so I don’t have a good sense of how payments work in daily life elsewhere. Here, the big convenience store chains now accept a couple of dozen different types of contactless, swipe, or QR code payments [1, 2, 3 (in Japanese)]. However, cash is also widely used, and many smaller businesses still accept only cash [4, 5 (ditto)]. [1] https://www.sej.co.jp/services/cash.html https://www.sej.co.jp/services/cash.html [2] https://www.family.co.jp/services/payment.html https://www.family.co.jp/services/payment.html [3] https://www.lawson.co.jp/service/payment/settlement/index.html https://www.lawson.co.jp/service/payment/settlement/index.ht... [4] https://www.caa.go.jp/policies/policy/consumer_policy/meeting_materials/assets/internet_committee_221021_02.pdf https://www.caa.go.jp/policies/policy/consumer_policy/meetin... [5] https://dentsu-ho.com/articles/8187 https://dentsu-ho.com/articles/8187

Freedom2 4y ago

> every other This has been a common scenario for many countries and cities around the world, for a long time, before the MTA introduced it, with similar flawless execution. Just off the top of my head, London, Singapore, Sydney, Japan and South Korea. I remember when Americans were initially hostile to NFC payments almost a decade ago, but I guess times change?

xnx 4y ago
> This has been a common scenario for many countries and cities around the world By using a watch or a card? A watch is 10x better than a card because it's always available, even when your hands are full.
- senttoschool 4y ago
  What happens if the Watch runs out of battery?
  - wenc 4y ago
    That never happens and I wear my Apple Watch all day and all night (for sleep tracking) except for when I shower -- I plop it on my charger once a day when I shower and it charges to full during my shower (it doesn't take that long for the Watch to charge to full) iOS devices also have Power Reserve, which lets you use wallet and express transit for up to 5 hours even after your battery is out of juice. https://www.idownloadblog.com/2022/01/13/apple-power-reserve-guide/ https://www.idownloadblog.com/2022/01/13/apple-power-reserve...
    - bombolo 4y ago
      Never runs out of charge… needs recharging daily? How do these 2 not conflict?
      - mikepurvis 4y ago
        Just that there's a routine in place which ensures it always gets the required charge without it needing to be especially planned for.
        bombolo 4y ago
        I'm sure it works great when you're travelling /s

pbreit 4y ago

Anyone who uses Apple Pay knows it is the way payments get made in the future. The narrative that it is some sort of failure is completely wrong.

Shorel 4y ago

I don't know. I live in a city in Europe. I get my wallet out, put it close to the ticket reader in any metro station, bus, tramway or trolley in the city, and it works just as flawlessly. The only difference is between a wallet and a watch, which is a very tiny difference, IMO.

Faaak 4y ago
I'd say one of the main differences is that some NFC cards don't have anti-collision features and won't work next to other NFC cards. Thus, when you have your travel pass + credit card + ID card (mine is NFC), it doesn't work and you have to take it out. Hopefully, in Switzerland you don't need to tap/read a ticket before boarding any public transport, so it makes it a bit easier
- zamnos 4y ago
  Given how cold it gets in the winter (around or below freezing) in various parts of Europe, getting a wallet with anti-RFID lining and a compartment outside of that, a purse or bag with a pocket on the bottom or side, or gloves with a pocket on the back of it, or this watch thing, or really anything that lets you run your travel card without having to take off your gloves is well worth the cost.
rockbruno 4y ago
Maybe it's because I'm really lazy, but the wallet vs watch thing makes a huge difference for me. I hate having to pick up my phone or wallet from my pockets, being able to pay from my Apple Watch is such a game changer that it became the only reason I even have one.