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Misalignment Museum
- simonw 3y agoWow, didn't expect my https://www.niche-museums.com/ https://www.niche-museums.com/ website to show up on Hacker News! It's actually running on a templated instance of Datasette - try the "Use my location" button on the homepage to see tiny museums near you that I've been to.
- Lacerda69 3y agoSimon, you are a beast, is there anything you don't do? many thanks for all the content and inspiration, your blog is genuinely my favourite read right now!
- ImHereToVote 3y agoLink?
- Arrrlex 3y agohttps://simonwillison.net/ https://simonwillison.net/
- imaginarycoder 3y agoWow for sure if my genius was recognized like that would be surprised too
- dekleinewolf 3y agoAwww, unfortunately nothing in my country! I love going to weirdo museums. My favorites so far are the sardine can and the dredging museums.
- simonw 3y agoWell those sound amazing! Where are they?
- Pamar 3y agoIs there a way to add entries to this collection, or do you only list museums you have been personally been at? I ask because I tried look for listings of places I know well (e.g. Turin, Italy or Budapest, Hungary) and found that the closest entry was hundreds of miles away. Turin has, for example, this: http://www.museodellafrutta.it/en/ http://www.museodellafrutta.it/en/ which is pretty niche, imho. Budapest has a chocolate museum: https://www.csokolade-muzeum.hu/bemutatkozunk/ https://www.csokolade-muzeum.hu/bemutatkozunk/ and so on...
- krisoft 3y agoI have the same question. Happy to prepare a PR if that is welcome. The one I would be recommending (to the niche museums site, and also to everyone who is around) is the Yokohama Coast Guard museum. It has a really unassuming name, I only went in because I got caught out in the rain without an umbrella in Minatomirai. Dare I say it is the best museum I have ever visited. It is organised around a single curious event: In 2001 a Japanese Coast Guard vessel encountered a suspiciously behaving fishing travel. They wanted to board them when the fishing vessel took off at high speed and started shooting at them. During the pursuit they even seen the crew wield shoulder mounter missile launchers. Turns out it was a North Korean spy ship on a mission to raise funds by smuggling drugs to Japan. The incident ended by the Korean crew scuttling their vessel. The coast guard has raised the sunk ship and built this museum around it. Website of the museum: https://jcgmuseum.jp/en/ https://jcgmuseum.jp/en/ More info on the event: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Amami-%C5%8Cshima https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Amami-%C5%8Cshima
- sigriv 3y agoBrussels/Belgium is full of them. My favorites are the Clockarium, Museum of the Art Deco Ceramic Clock. (https://www.clockarium.org/ https://www.clockarium.org/ Check out the video, its is magnificent.) And The Sewer Museum: Experience an authentic sewer, stroll along the Senne and discover the little-known but ever so important profession of a sewage worker. Descend deep into the bowels of the city for this unique experience! https://sewermuseum.brussels/ https://sewermuseum.brussels/
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- croisillon 3y agoyou might want to add the Crime Museum [https://wien.kriminalmuseum.at/en/news/ https://wien.kriminalmuseum.at/en/news/] and the Museum of Contraception and Abortion [https://www.muvs.org/en/ https://www.muvs.org/en/] of Vienna, Austria
- bigger_inside 3y agocool site! used it immediately to check if there are interesting places to add to my next trip. "normal" museums bore me. May I suggest two additions? Kassel, Germany has two weird ones: A museum for death culture (Sepulkralkulturmuseum, https://www.sepulkralmuseum.de/ https://www.sepulkralmuseum.de/), and a museum of wallpaper (https://www.tapeten.museum-kassel.de/ https://www.tapeten.museum-kassel.de/) :)
- debesyla 3y agoI have one suggestion too! :-D The Devil Museum in Kaunas, Lithuania (https://ciurlionis.lt/activity/permanent-exhibitions/velniu-kolekcija-en/ https://ciurlionis.lt/activity/permanent-exhibitions/velniu-...). It has few hundred wooden devil statues, most of them made in traditional methods.
- DonHopkins 3y agoHow does one traditionally make devils?
- debesyla 3y agoI meant in lithuanian folk art traditions - mostly woodcarvings with various paints, but sometimes using other materials too. I guess forms and colors can also be included in definition of "traditional" :thinking_emoji: Anyway, I am not an art expert or anything, I just find Devil museum interesting, haha. I managed to find a virtual tour of it too: https://3dtour.1001pikselis.lt/tour/velniu-muziejus https://3dtour.1001pikselis.lt/tour/velniu-muziejus
- throwaway173738 3y agoThere’s also a prison museum in Deer Lodge Montana that my partner and I went to to kill a little time before the Vonnie Louise had our room available.
- Animats 3y agoHas anyone been there? It's a temporary installation in San Francisco.
- computerphage 3y agoYes. AMA
- Tepix 3y agoIs it worth visiting?
- computerphage 3y agoI wouldn't travel far, but if you're near SF anyway, then it's a nice stop. It's pretty small, just two rooms, so it's not a big thing. I found it interesting to see Audrey Kim (the curator)'s perspective through the exhibit and I also enjoyed meeting fellow museum goers and chatting with them
- atemerev 3y agoWe put OOM in FOOM.
- ahepp 3y agoThis actually brings to mind a conversation I've been having with my buddies recently. Has there ever been a case of harm from AI misalignment? Not some kind of speculative art exhibit, but real harm?
- thevinter 3y agoYes, many cases I.e. https://www.technologyreview.com/2020/07/17/1005396/predictive-policing-algorithms-racist-dismantled-machine-learning-bias-criminal-justice/ https://www.technologyreview.com/2020/07/17/1005396/predicti...
- ahepp 3y agoI am familiar with this situation and agree it is a problem. But this is a deterministic, well known, algorithm rather than AI, isn't it? I would also say that this falls under bias rather than misalignment. I think bias is a much, much more realistic problem area than misalignment.
- ajuc 3y agoThis is exactly what I'm talking about in the other response to your previous comment. The joke goes "AI ceases to be AI when we start to understand how it works". But it doesn't matter if you call the software that kills us all "conscious AI that was misaligned" or if it was "deterministic code that had a bug" - the underlying problem that we're all dead remains the same. We're just arguing about labels instead of issues. The AI that kills us all (if this happens) will very likely be a simple, deterministic algorithm that ran on A LOT of data.
- ajuc 3y agoThe problem with that is - until we have "true AGI" about which everybody agree it's "true AGI" - you can always dismiss deaths caused by software as "just a bug, not an AI safety problem". For example when Tesla autopilot kills someone (which has happened). https://impakter.com/tesla-autopilot-crashes-with-at-least-a-dozen-dead-whos-fault-man-or-machine/ https://impakter.com/tesla-autopilot-crashes-with-at-least-a...
- jeisc 3y agoto kill humanity first it must already exist in my opinion our efforts at being humane have not yet risen to our ability to imagine humanity I do not think that AI will help in our efforts to create humanity but will rather enhance the negative aspects of our already harsh nature
- otippat 3y agoYou don't think that the use of that word in this context simply refers to humankind?
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- meindnoch 3y agoOh. I thought it would be a museum of slightly misaligned things. It would be a fun place to visit for OCD-type people.
- yamtaddle 3y agoYeah, I was expecting something like the exact opposite of that "things fitting perfectly in other things" Tumblr (at least, I think it was a Tumblr).
- Forgeties79 3y agoI can't stop chuckling at the big "Sorry for killing most of humanity." I just picture a little robot-kid looking down and doing that little kick.