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IIRC, Ubuntu tried something like that and the quickly realized it was a big mistake and reverted. This is the thing, with Linux or any BSD, if they start doin

by jmclnx 4y ago

IIRC, Ubuntu tried something like that and the quickly realized it was a big mistake and reverted. This is the thing, with Linux or any BSD, if they start doing something like what M/S is doing, it is very easy to move elsewhere. Windows, either leave the OS for something completely different or you learn to live with it.

sho_hn 4y ago
Interestingly, the Ubuntu feature was arguably worse. When you did a search in the application menu, they would send your request to Amazon servers and return shopping suggestions. I.e. it was advertising third-party goods and sharing your data with a third-party service (albeit anonymized). This is Microsoft trying to sell you subscription to one of their own service products. I like neither one, but it's hard to overstate how much Canonical misunderstood its audience on that one. Mark Shuttleworth on his blog at the time, before it was rolled back: "It makes perfect sense to integrate Amazon search results in the Dash, because the Home Lens of the Dash should let you find anything anywhere. Over time, we’ll make the Dash smarter and smarter, so you can just ask for whatever you want, and it will Just Work." and "Don’t trust us? Erm, we have root. You do trust us with your data already."
- karmakurtisaani 4y ago
  That's a pretty terrible miscalculation. I've been a Kubuntu user for well over a decade and have never seen anything like this before. In general, for all the hate Ubuntu gets, I feel like Kubuntu is not getting the recognition it deserves.
  - sho_hn 4y ago
    Canonical is recently licensing the Kubuntu brand, getting it some more exposure: https://kfocus.org/ https://kfocus.org/
marcosdumay 4y ago
Ubuntu's reputation still didn't recover. More than a decade later, and it still gets pointed every time people talk about OS ads. Besides, they have no chance at all to play a "we just changed the CEO, it's a new Ubuntu". A bunch of people with Stockholm syndrome makes a world of difference for a brand.

by jmclnx 4y ago

sho_hn 4y ago

Interestingly, the Ubuntu feature was arguably worse. When you did a search in the application menu, they would send your request to Amazon servers and return shopping suggestions. I.e. it was advertising third-party goods and sharing your data with a third-party service (albeit anonymized). This is Microsoft trying to sell you subscription to one of their own service products. I like neither one, but it's hard to overstate how much Canonical misunderstood its audience on that one. Mark Shuttleworth on his blog at the time, before it was rolled back: "It makes perfect sense to integrate Amazon search results in the Dash, because the Home Lens of the Dash should let you find anything anywhere. Over time, we’ll make the Dash smarter and smarter, so you can just ask for whatever you want, and it will Just Work." and "Don’t trust us? Erm, we have root. You do trust us with your data already."

karmakurtisaani 4y ago
That's a pretty terrible miscalculation. I've been a Kubuntu user for well over a decade and have never seen anything like this before. In general, for all the hate Ubuntu gets, I feel like Kubuntu is not getting the recognition it deserves.
- sho_hn 4y ago
  Canonical is recently licensing the Kubuntu brand, getting it some more exposure: https://kfocus.org/ https://kfocus.org/

marcosdumay 4y ago

Ubuntu's reputation still didn't recover. More than a decade later, and it still gets pointed every time people talk about OS ads. Besides, they have no chance at all to play a "we just changed the CEO, it's a new Ubuntu". A bunch of people with Stockholm syndrome makes a world of difference for a brand.