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I'm not saying it's silly to be knowledgeable about the Beatles. I think it's silly to point to something specific like "Yoko/John/George broke the Beatles up!"

by vlunkr 4y ago

I'm not saying it's silly to be knowledgeable about the Beatles. I think it's silly to point to something specific like "Yoko/John/George broke the Beatles up!". Group dynamics are always more complex than that. But the thing that seems clear with the Beatles, and many many other groups, is that their tastes, interests, and personal lives evolved and they didn't or couldn't work together anymore.

1123581321 4y ago
Sorry to misunderstand you. But, among knowledgeable people, I think you find the discussions of the individuals are more complex than you’re representing, especially if you have an opportunity to listen to a complete conversation in person. With exceptions, of course.
- lcnPylGDnU4H9OF 4y ago
  It's worth pointing out that near the root of this comment thread is a comment that reads, "Yoko wasn’t the wedge that drove the Beatles apart, it was George." Not to take away from either point; yours that there's plenty of room for nuance and theirs that the nuance isn't always given room. Just that they seem to be responding more to this sort of comment than Beatles commentary as a whole.
  - 1123581321 4y ago
    That is good to point out. I’d gotten lost. :) Thank you.
freejazz 4y ago
If you familiarize yourself with their group dynamics, it's pretty clear that John broke the band up. You can just keep repeating group dynamics all you want but it's a cop-out that doesn't address what actually happened. There are bands that stay together despite or because of "group dynamics"
- UberFly 4y ago
  I think so too. When asked point blank Paul said John broke up the band. The clip is on Youtube. I get it's just his word but from so many sources John was an exhausting personality to deal with in long doses. You can tell that from the audio tapes of their recordings.
  - freejazz 4y ago
    I mean John broke it up for reasons beyond him just being difficult. It's been deeply analyzed by many, I think the One Sweet Dream podcast gets it best where John is hurt by his relationship to Paul and the notion that Paul might not need him anymore.
    - UberFly 4y ago
      True no doubt. They did take a lot of sharp jabs at each other in their song lyrics in the years after the split.

by vlunkr 4y ago

1123581321 4y ago

Sorry to misunderstand you. But, among knowledgeable people, I think you find the discussions of the individuals are more complex than you’re representing, especially if you have an opportunity to listen to a complete conversation in person. With exceptions, of course.

lcnPylGDnU4H9OF 4y ago
It's worth pointing out that near the root of this comment thread is a comment that reads, "Yoko wasn’t the wedge that drove the Beatles apart, it was George." Not to take away from either point; yours that there's plenty of room for nuance and theirs that the nuance isn't always given room. Just that they seem to be responding more to this sort of comment than Beatles commentary as a whole.
- 1123581321 4y ago
  That is good to point out. I’d gotten lost. :) Thank you.

freejazz 4y ago

If you familiarize yourself with their group dynamics, it's pretty clear that John broke the band up. You can just keep repeating group dynamics all you want but it's a cop-out that doesn't address what actually happened. There are bands that stay together despite or because of "group dynamics"

UberFly 4y ago
I think so too. When asked point blank Paul said John broke up the band. The clip is on Youtube. I get it's just his word but from so many sources John was an exhausting personality to deal with in long doses. You can tell that from the audio tapes of their recordings.
- freejazz 4y ago
  I mean John broke it up for reasons beyond him just being difficult. It's been deeply analyzed by many, I think the One Sweet Dream podcast gets it best where John is hurt by his relationship to Paul and the notion that Paul might not need him anymore.
  - UberFly 4y ago
    True no doubt. They did take a lot of sharp jabs at each other in their song lyrics in the years after the split.