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Things created with GPT-4
- cs702 4y agoThe imagined computers that looked so unrealistic in so many past science-fiction movies and TV shows no longer look... unrealistic. Those imagined computers now look more like upgrades to current technology. Imagine an AI model 10x, 100x, 1000x larger than GPT4. That feels... surreal to me.
- lm28469 4y ago> Those imagined computers now look more like upgrades to current technology. I still don't get that argument. You can train a parrot for a week and he'll talk a few words, training it for a year won't make him become Shakespeare, LLMs will never ever automagically evolve into these AGI tier computers, not even their creators argue that, no one besides techbros argue that in fact.
- fiso64 4y ago>not even their creators argue that Yes, their creators take the far more defensible and scientific position of saying "we don't know".
- lm28469 4y agoNot at all Same Altman (openAI ceo) : > The GPT-4 rumor mill is a ridiculous thing. I don’t know where it all comes from, people are begging to be disappointed and they will be. The hype is just like... We don’t have an actual AGI
- letmevoteplease 4y agoHe was responding to viral tweets[1] that said GPT-4 had "100 trillion parameters" and was "500x more powerful than GPT-3," which is indeed absurd hype. On the other hand, two weeks ago a team of Microsoft researchers put out a paper claiming that GPT-4 "could reasonably be viewed as an early (yet still incomplete) version of an artificial general intelligence (AGI) system." [1] https://twitter.com/andrewsteinwold/status/1594889562526027777 https://twitter.com/andrewsteinwold/status/15948895625260277... [2] https://arxiv.org/abs/2303.12712 https://arxiv.org/abs/2303.12712
- lm28469 4y agoYou're missing the end of the quote, a bit further in the next sentence: > including the possible need for pursuing a new paradigm that moves beyond next-word prediction. So all in all "it's not AGI and we might need a paradigm shift to achieve it" A paradigm shift being: "a fundamental change in approach or underlying assumptions."
- fiso64 4y agoExactly... In other words, they say that they don't know whether this will get us to AGI.
- WalterSear 4y agoWe are hearing about new, improved parrots on an almost daily basis.
- lm28469 4y agoAnd no matter how many W16 you put in a bugatti veyron it will never be a space shuttle I don't get how people, especially here of all places, fall for such things
- WalterSear 4y agoAre you not familiar with the process of software engineering? Replacing parts until you get a space shuttle is exactly how systems are evolved.
- Name_Chawps 4y agoI can, right now, have GPT 4 write me sonnets on any topic. We are already beyond mere parroting. People say "it's just parroting what it's heard"! But did GPT4's training data really include a sonnet about Minecraft creepers? So they're not parroting. They're parroting PLUS something else. Plus some kind of analysis and transformation. Your claim is that this transformation is superficial and won't become deeper as the neural networks become deeper. We'll see.
- marcosdumay 4y ago> But did GPT4's training data really include a sonnet about Minecraft creepers? The entire internet is one hell of a large knowledge base. It does surely look like it's doing some transformation. But I don't know how to get certainty on this.
- lm28469 4y agoYes you can cherry pick things that work very well, in the meantime it still can't rhyme in French, which is 12 years old type of intelligence It's wrong > 50% of the time for anything semi complex and semi niche, that's not AGI, no one in the field of AI argue it's AGI, only people on twitter and reddit with absolutely no background in tech and/or AI argue it's AGI It's a very very very good chatbot, built with very very impressive technology and amount of data, which is already quite impressive and definitely a big milestone, it's not AGI, not even close It's like saying the leather auger of my swiss army knife is a step towards an aerospace grade titanium cutting CNC machine
- dandellion 4y agoI can't rhyme in French either. A lot of these comments just remind me of that Alan Kay quote: “Artificial intelligence is what we don’t know how to do yet.” In the past year we've got models that can draw, write poetry and code better than a significant percentage of people, and now the goal posts are moving so fast they're even hard to see. I'd probably agree that we're still a few breakthroughs away from something that could pass as AGI, but the current models are already better than just "parroting". And even if progress stales for the next 10 or 15 years like it has happened frequently with AI, everything that it has learned to do in the last couple years can be fine-tuned and made a lot more efficient, which I expect will have a big impact already.
- ravenstine 4y agoI've been noticing this pattern on HN where someone analogizes current generation LLMs to parrots while simultaneously claiming to know the future of LLMs without any justification. Am I a "techbro" because I don't believe that we know much about what the future of LLMs has in store for us, or because I find the parrot analogy to be utterly specious?
- lm28469 4y agoYou're free to believe whatever you want but then we're deep into religious territory, which is fine in itself but doesn't really matter here
- throw1234651234 4y agoHow are people using this? Is there a public beta or do they have special API keys? To avoid spam, regarding the comment above - it all felt "surreal" to me until I realized how wrong ChatGPT is most of the time. Not only that, but I am writing in Python now (a language I don't use) and realize that while ChatGPT can give hints, it's definitely nowhere near replacing mid devs, let alone seniors and architects and I can't use it unless I know exactly what I am asking for. I bet all of the examples in the parent are highly, highly nitpicked and have 1000s of similar apps to copy. E.g. the movie app is my go to practice assignment for new devs to learn basic UI and APIs. More of my ranting on AI failures here (and it's basic programming tasks in one lang): https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=34640699 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=34640699
- v64 4y agoThere's a waitlist: https://openai.com/waitlist/gpt-4-api https://openai.com/waitlist/gpt-4-api ChatGPT Plus is also using GPT-4 as its backend
- eloff 4y agochat.openai.com, create an account and upgrade it to plus ($20/mo). There’s currently limits on how many messages you can send. There’s also an API.
- throw1234651234 4y agoThanks, already messing with the free version, didn't know it was using GPT-4 - will try. P.S. Thanks to both of you, just replying to one comment to avoid spam.
- eloff 4y agoThe free version is still on 3.5. I still use it, it’s faster and I can’t use the plus version that my company pays for for personal stuff.
- gschrader 4y agoDoes Plus give API access? Last time I looked it didn't, I think the waitlist is still the only option.
- SketchySeaBeast 4y agoI don't know why, but that "use your apple watch to code" seems like hell to me. Presumably because I know it's going to be a lot of stuttering and saying "ignore that". Interesting demo, but I don't think I will ever want to talk to a computer like that.
- turnsout 4y agoThis current moment is super impressive, but the output of the models is still mediocre. I worry that over the next 12-24 months, we'll be overwhelmed with autogenerated content (docs, apps, games, news) that gets a B- or C. Once the novelty wears off, no one wants to play your [terrible] autogenerated asteroid clone. There are a lot of startups that are two LLMs in a trench coat, and they will not be able to improve faster than people's expectations increase.
- SketchySeaBeast 4y agoYour BAD autogenerated asteroid clone. "Give it time" people will say, but how does one prompt ChatGPT to make a game fun, or a story actually interesting?
- turnsout 4y ago^ Yes, edited my post! I've spent HOURS tweaking prompts and going back and forth with GPT3–4 to get more creative and interesting output, but it's not there yet. This current generation will just never give you legitimately good song lyrics, let alone a game with an interesting and compelling mechanic.
- redeux 4y agoHaving played around with the same scenario, I’ve come to the naive conclusion that the lack of creative output is because the current generation of GPT is only able to regurgitate and not create. This makes everything feel very derivative. On the other hand, if you act as the creative mind and use GPT to accelerate your output, it becomes more useful.
- SketchySeaBeast 4y agoAm I off base, or is "create" sort of amorphous in this context? It's already creating novel sentences and paragraphs. What is difference between that and real creation? Personally it seems to me that if you feed a statistical model of a ton of input it's going to feed back the average of that input, leading to uninspiring phrases. Regarding game creation, we'd need to tell it about game mechanics, and I have no idea how it'd determine what's interesting or how it would innovate.
- lm28469 4y agoHow do they make sure these "financial advisor" or "research abstract summarisers" are hallucination free ? So far it still is deeply in the "cool gadget" category for me, 6 months after the chat GPT revolution and not much to see
- spoiler 4y agoDon't get me wrong, it's really cool technology, but calling the first example a "game" is... Grossly overstating what it is. However, given it was made by someone who's not a [game] developer, it's pretty cool nonetheless.
- bena 4y agoNo, it's not just a game, it's a (complex) game. But like you, I agree, that's cool. That's like a pretty good start if you wanted to make an actual game. You have movement, physics, and collision detection. There's clearly something to build off of.
- ambicapter 4y agoClicked on the second one and was immediately presented with a course to teach me how to use this fancy new AI-powered technology to revolutionize my business! Puts a certain taste in my mouth.
- marginalia_nu 4y agoIt appears many of the same people who were hyping crypto and meme stocks a year ago are hyping AI startups/courses now. The sales manuscript is basically identical with lots of manufactured FOMO. It's a shame because the technology itself is probably reasonably useful. It's really hard to tell though with all the bullshit surrounding it.
- sharemywin 4y agoyou just need to buy my course on AI course BS detection. it's only $995. but if you watch this short free webinar on 5 simple ways to tell as course is BS you can get it for only 3 payments of $499. But you have to watch until the end.
- _the_inflator 4y agoA lot of click-bait and "coaching" is spread under the term "ChatGPT". Reminds me of the 238th iteration of a calculator for the AppStore years ago just to have an app at the AppStore. Marketers learned to sell shovels. Understanding their business model is important.
- oldstrangers 4y agoThat's all twitter is these days. People writing content to drive engagement with some silly hook to sell whatever it is they're selling.
- SketchySeaBeast 4y agoI scrolled down. I shouldn't have scrolled down.
- rchaud 4y ago
- ausbah 4y agoseems like GPT systems are the most useful when you can quickly verify the correctness of the output (ex code generation) but else quickly becomes dubious (ex how do you know a summary is correct or useful?)
- abi 4y agoI built a web app that lets you generate simple, shareable web apps just by prompting with GPT4. https://picoapps.xyz https://picoapps.xyz Here are some cool apps people have built with it: read aloud a wikipedia article: https://backend-pico.onrender.com/northeast-architect https://backend-pico.onrender.com/northeast-architect matrix animation: https://backend-pico.onrender.com/chair-northeast https://backend-pico.onrender.com/chair-northeast face distorter: https://backend-pico.onrender.com/drench-virtual https://backend-pico.onrender.com/drench-virtual simple excel: https://backend-pico.onrender.com/amidst-assurance https://backend-pico.onrender.com/amidst-assurance image to meme generator: https://backend-pico.onrender.com/wagon-woot https://backend-pico.onrender.com/wagon-woot
- senko 4y agoThis is awesome! I'm doing something similar but for backend. Is picoapps frontend-only for now or do you generate both the front and enough of a backend to eg save what the user creates?
- abi 4y agoThanks :) Right now, all the code it generates is in a single index.html so no backend. Would love to try/test your backend thing.
- seiferteric 4y agoUsing it to "peer review" research papers to look for flaws in statistical methods used, logical flaws in conclusions etc would be fantastic. Of course it would need to be verified, but maybe it could be a turning of the tides for all the bad "research" done out there.
- ralusek 4y agoSo annoyed at the people with GPT4 API access. I applied immediately, and have now built a handful of applications with 3.5 that would work so much better with changing a single model string once I get access.
- ketzu 4y agoIt is so interesting to me seeing how everyone utilizes those large language models. I often wonder how they do it. I tried to get something usable out of ChatGPT now and then, but the code is littered with misunderstandings of the data format and errors and more problems. Maybe I am bad at explaining what I want to the system?
- cahoot_bird 4y agoIt can make mistakes and hallucinate. I've found GPT-4 to be slightly better than earlier versions. Ideally tell it one step at a time you need done, I've found that it struggles with multiple overlapping steps for some things but not others. It can make tic-tac-toe in one prompt in HTML5 and Javascript. But maybe if you ask it to make it rain in the background or something like that in the same prompt it might mess everything up. I've also found it's good at common problems and sometimes spotting the cause for syntax errors, but less common problems it might not know. Hope that helps.
- ketzu 4y agoThank you for the advice. I would like to make use of those tools properly, so I'll give it a try.
- xwdv 4y agoI’d wager things are likely to not get much better than these examples for several years, maybe a decade.
- jmull 4y agoOn one hand this is stunning. On the other hand, almost everything shown here either generic or crap (or both). I'm happy that chatgpt writes boilerplate code for me so that I don't have to but I'm not seeing the revolution yet.
- marcosdumay 4y ago> I'm happy that chatgpt writes boilerplate code for me I'm really concerned that Copilot and similar stuff will make boilerplate-heavy code even more popular than it is now.
- kozikow 4y agoI work in property insurtech and had lots of fun. - Customer support chatbot. Convert knowledge base and other materials to q&a form with gpt4. Ada2 embeddings, search for questions in repository with faiss, ask gpt4 to answer. Works a lot better than standard "search with embeddings in KnowledgeBase". - Parsing out and standardizing insurance descriptions, Excels, schedules of values - Parsing out and standardizing documents like building permits, claims For industries that have a lot of text format and can deal with some degree of statistical error as long as averages are better it's massive
- TeddyDD 4y agoI'll get excited when FOSS community catch up, and I'll be able to run GTP-4 like models locally instead of calling some API.