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I don't know about OP but they're significantly more expensive for me (non-US; Asia) than any other offerings, that I feel like I'm being scammed. That with mor

by h4ch1 4y ago

I don't know about OP but they're significantly more expensive for me (non-US; Asia) than any other offerings, that I feel like I'm being scammed. That with more subscriptions for anything I might want to use (Spotify/Netflix/Prime) just make it kind of a pinch, and so for a lot of people in my country. Edit: for ex: the $799 iPad pro costs an equivalent of $994.35 in India.

tuyiown 4y ago
US public listed prices are tax free. Add 18% tax (if I'm not wrong), you're off by ~50$
- h4ch1 4y ago
  18% seems a lot, I did Google and Louisiana seems to have the highest sales tax, and entering 70726 as my pin on checkout gives me a tax of $87.49; totalling $886.49. Still a 100$ shy of the price.
  - ElFitz 4y ago
    18% seems to be the sales tax (GST) for iPhones & iPads in India.
- TedDoesntTalk 4y ago
  Which US state has 18% sales tax???
  - ElFitz 4y ago
    Who said anything about a US state? It seems to be the sales tax (GST) applicable in India for iPhones & iPads. Plus customs duties.
Aeolun 4y ago
To be fair, you can easily use apple hardware for 5 years, where windows is just completely dead and unuseable after 2.
- bambax 4y ago
  I have a laptop from 2014 that runs Win8 just fine; and my main desktop machine runs Win7 with a motherboard from 2011 and many parts older than that. Everything works fine. (And yes, as I'm sure people will feel obliged to remind me, I do know Win7 and Win8 are now "unsupported", but I feel that's more a feature than a limitation.)
- diffeomorphism 4y ago
  Meanwhile I am sitting here with a 5 year old windows/linux laptop and will probably continue using it for another 5 years. It still has a hidpi, HDR, ips display, great keyboard, 16gb of ram, 2tb of nvme storage and weighs the same as a current MacBook pro of the same size. I highly doubt you can find any $1500+ laptop that is "unusable after 2". I might want to pick up a new one with a 3:2 oled display or more ram at some point, but that is want not need.
- surgical_fire 4y ago
  This bullshit is repeated ad nauseam as if it was true, it's almost funny. First, there's no "Windows" hardware. Unless you are talking about Surface. Second, all laptops I had were useful for far longer than 2 years. My current one is almost 4 years old and still extremely good for everything I need. I also replaced Windows for Linux recently, and I suspect that will extend its lifespan for many years still.
- h4ch1 4y ago
  That's really not true, I ran each of my "Windows" laptops for 6 years; a Toshiba from 2011-2017 and a Asus UX430UA from 2017 to this year. Bought a MSI GF65 Thin for a GPU, I refreshed Windows and installed only what was necessary and removed dead files/services, with constant HW health monitoring as long as I could; then migrated them to Arch/Fedora with i3wm; keeping as minimal of a setup as I could. I don't know if that qualifies as easily using hardware, but I think I am very lazy, and that was the path of minimal resistance to keep them up and running. Both those laptops are happily being used by my parents for keeping track of their finances, doing admin tasks for whatever organizations they're a part of. My father even uses them for complex SAP tasks. The only HW fault that came up was the Toshiba fan broke once and was very quickly replaced and has been working fine since. The battery is dead of course, but the Asus still gives a 2-3 hour backup if necessary.

by h4ch1 4y ago

tuyiown 4y ago

US public listed prices are tax free. Add 18% tax (if I'm not wrong), you're off by ~50$

h4ch1 4y ago
18% seems a lot, I did Google and Louisiana seems to have the highest sales tax, and entering 70726 as my pin on checkout gives me a tax of $87.49; totalling $886.49. Still a 100$ shy of the price.
- ElFitz 4y ago
  18% seems to be the sales tax (GST) for iPhones & iPads in India.
TedDoesntTalk 4y ago
Which US state has 18% sales tax???
- ElFitz 4y ago
  Who said anything about a US state? It seems to be the sales tax (GST) applicable in India for iPhones & iPads. Plus customs duties.

Aeolun 4y ago

To be fair, you can easily use apple hardware for 5 years, where windows is just completely dead and unuseable after 2.

bambax 4y ago
I have a laptop from 2014 that runs Win8 just fine; and my main desktop machine runs Win7 with a motherboard from 2011 and many parts older than that. Everything works fine. (And yes, as I'm sure people will feel obliged to remind me, I do know Win7 and Win8 are now "unsupported", but I feel that's more a feature than a limitation.)
diffeomorphism 4y ago
Meanwhile I am sitting here with a 5 year old windows/linux laptop and will probably continue using it for another 5 years. It still has a hidpi, HDR, ips display, great keyboard, 16gb of ram, 2tb of nvme storage and weighs the same as a current MacBook pro of the same size. I highly doubt you can find any $1500+ laptop that is "unusable after 2". I might want to pick up a new one with a 3:2 oled display or more ram at some point, but that is want not need.
surgical_fire 4y ago
This bullshit is repeated ad nauseam as if it was true, it's almost funny. First, there's no "Windows" hardware. Unless you are talking about Surface. Second, all laptops I had were useful for far longer than 2 years. My current one is almost 4 years old and still extremely good for everything I need. I also replaced Windows for Linux recently, and I suspect that will extend its lifespan for many years still.
h4ch1 4y ago
That's really not true, I ran each of my "Windows" laptops for 6 years; a Toshiba from 2011-2017 and a Asus UX430UA from 2017 to this year. Bought a MSI GF65 Thin for a GPU, I refreshed Windows and installed only what was necessary and removed dead files/services, with constant HW health monitoring as long as I could; then migrated them to Arch/Fedora with i3wm; keeping as minimal of a setup as I could. I don't know if that qualifies as easily using hardware, but I think I am very lazy, and that was the path of minimal resistance to keep them up and running. Both those laptops are happily being used by my parents for keeping track of their finances, doing admin tasks for whatever organizations they're a part of. My father even uses them for complex SAP tasks. The only HW fault that came up was the Toshiba fan broke once and was very quickly replaced and has been working fine since. The battery is dead of course, but the Asus still gives a 2-3 hour backup if necessary.