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>"I know that it's frustrating, but please do not take matters into your own hands," said SAPD public information officer Nick Soliz. They don't know that it's

>"I know that it's frustrating, but please do not take matters into your own hands," said SAPD public information officer Nick Soliz. They don't know that it's frustrating, because if a police vehicle or police officer's private vehicle were stolen it would be top priority. This will continue happening until the police take property crime seriously. This bloodshed is the (entirely predictable) outcome of their negligent inaction.

ALittleLight 4y ago
People make choices all the time about how much they value their life and safety versus other concerns - what you spend on medical procedures, dangerous activities, drinking, travel, etc. It's simply not for the officer to make a moral judgment about whether citizens should or should not risk their lives over their property. I would instead ask the office to comment something like "This highlights the risk of..." It should up to the involved citizens whether they want to run the risks or not.
FormerBandmate 4y ago
This is incidentally the entire reason the police was invented thousands of years ago
- eastbound 4y ago
  Like all interventions of state, it always works well at the beginning then goes haywire a few dozen years after it’s established.
  - winrid 4y ago
    More than that. Most state ran things (in the US at least) are started to benefit the many, and end up getting manipulated to benefit the rich (police, taxes).
seanmcdirmid 4y ago
When police say they don’t have resources to take property crime seriously, why are they astonished when people take getting their property back into their own hands? The police/society should put up to shut up, though I guess in this case they are concerned about the property crime victim’s safety, which is completely reasonable.
acomjean 4y ago
This comes up in the discussion of if its worth attaching air-tags to bikes. You can locate it, but the police (typically) won't act and is it worth risking your life confronting the thieves. Going in armed when the new "owners" might have just bought it stollen.
Rebelgecko 4y ago
Piecing together bits and pieces from articles I've seen, it sounds like the owner of the vehicle called police at 1pm. At 4pm, the owner and 2 family members drove to where the truck was located and that's when the shooting happened. It would be interesting to know what, if anything, the police did during those 3 hours
- slowmovintarget 4y ago
  Going to the location of the truck to at least check it out was not one of their activities, it seems.

ALittleLight 4y ago

People make choices all the time about how much they value their life and safety versus other concerns - what you spend on medical procedures, dangerous activities, drinking, travel, etc. It's simply not for the officer to make a moral judgment about whether citizens should or should not risk their lives over their property. I would instead ask the office to comment something like "This highlights the risk of..." It should up to the involved citizens whether they want to run the risks or not.

FormerBandmate 4y ago

This is incidentally the entire reason the police was invented thousands of years ago

eastbound 4y ago
Like all interventions of state, it always works well at the beginning then goes haywire a few dozen years after it’s established.
- winrid 4y ago
  More than that. Most state ran things (in the US at least) are started to benefit the many, and end up getting manipulated to benefit the rich (police, taxes).

seanmcdirmid 4y ago

When police say they don’t have resources to take property crime seriously, why are they astonished when people take getting their property back into their own hands? The police/society should put up to shut up, though I guess in this case they are concerned about the property crime victim’s safety, which is completely reasonable.

acomjean 4y ago

This comes up in the discussion of if its worth attaching air-tags to bikes. You can locate it, but the police (typically) won't act and is it worth risking your life confronting the thieves. Going in armed when the new "owners" might have just bought it stollen.

Rebelgecko 4y ago

Piecing together bits and pieces from articles I've seen, it sounds like the owner of the vehicle called police at 1pm. At 4pm, the owner and 2 family members drove to where the truck was located and that's when the shooting happened. It would be interesting to know what, if anything, the police did during those 3 hours

slowmovintarget 4y ago
Going to the location of the truck to at least check it out was not one of their activities, it seems.