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People working in philosophy of mind have a rich dialogue about these issues, and its certainly something you can't just encapsulate in a few thoughts. But it s
by beepbooptheory 4y ago
People working in philosophy of mind have a rich dialogue about these issues, and its certainly something you can't just encapsulate in a few thoughts. But it seems like it would be worth your time to look into it. :)
Ill just say: the issue with this variant of reductivism is its enticingly easy to explain in one direction, but it tends to fall apart if you try to go the other way!
- jamilton 4y agoI don't understand what you mean by "the other way".
- bithive123 4y agoIf consciousness is a complicated form of minerals, might we equally say that minerals are a primitive form of consciousness?
- ben_w 4y agoThat would be animism: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Animism https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Animism
- sfink 4y agoI dunno, LLMs feel a lot like a primitive form of consciousness to me. Eliza feels like a primitive form of LLMs' consciousness. A simple program that prints "Hey! How ya doin'?" feels like a primitive form of Eliza. A pile of interconnected NAN gates, fed with electricity, feels like a primitive form of a program. A single transistor feels like a primitive form of a NAN gate. A pile of dirty sand feels like a primitive form of a transistor. So... yeah, pretty much?
- imtringued 4y agoNaN gates were a mistake. https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=5TFDG-y-EHs https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=5TFDG-y-EHs
- ben_w 4y agoI tried philosophy at A-level back in the UK; grade C in the first year, but no extra credit at all in the second so overall my grade averaged an E. > the issue with this variant of reductivism is its enticingly easy to explain in one direction, but it tends to fall apart if you try to go the other way! If by this you mean the hard problem of consciousness remains unexplained by any of the physical processes underlying it, and that it subjectively "feels like" Cartesian dualism with a separate spirit-substance even though absolutely all of the objective evidence points to reality being material substance monism, then I agree.
- drowsspa 4y ago10 bucks says this human exceptionalism of consciousness being something more than physical will be proven wrong by construction in the very near future. Just like Earth as the center of the Universe, humans special among animals...