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The whole women perspective is ridicolous. I subscribe to the pov that there is no pay gap between sexes sprouting from hateful discrimination. But this will b
by toldyouso2022 4y ago
The whole women perspective is ridicolous. I subscribe to the pov that there is no pay gap between sexes sprouting from hateful discrimination.
But this will be great for Italy because a huge problem of our labor market is that salary is considered something dirty. This law may create a better culture. I hope so.
- froh 4y ago> no pay gap between sexes sprouting from hateful discrimination. possibly the pay gap has other reasons in many companies, yes. and yes it's real.
- DagsEoress 4y agoSorry, no it's not. Wage gap is a political tool, nothing else.
- derlvative 4y agoVery convincing argument
- class3shock 4y agohttps://www.pewresearch.org/social-trends/2023/03/01/the-enduring-grip-of-the-gender-pay-gap/ https://www.pewresearch.org/social-trends/2023/03/01/the-end...
- namaria 4y ago> But this will be great for Italy because a huge problem of our labor market is that salary is considered something dirty Truly. Employees being termed "dependents" of the company is a big tell on Italy's work culture. I can also vouch for the toxicity of the Brazilian labor market. Every middling manager carries on like a petty feudal lord...
- solarkraft 4y ago> Employees being termed "dependents" of the company is a big tell on Italy's work culture In german there's a funny situation as well: The employer is called the "work provider", while the employee is the "work receiver". Thank you, company, for providing me with work.
- namaria 4y ago>In german there's a funny situation as well: The employer is called the "work provider", while the employee is the "work receiver" Hm in Dutch I'd translate werknemer as 'work taker'... is it very different from that in German?
- rkta 4y agoNo, it's actually pretty close. German werknemer is Arbeitnehmer.
- solarkraft 4y agoLiterally it's actually "work giver" and "work taker", I just found it less idiomatic in english (it doesn't quite transport the connotation of providing the work being something noble).
- PartiallyTyped 4y ago> But this will be great for Italy because a huge problem of our labor market is that salary is considered something dirty Same for Cyprus and Poland. I am very open about my salary on purpose, and i keep telling my friends to talk about theirs with their co workers at least so that they don’t get the short end of the stick.
- orwin 4y agoIt's not malice, it's cultural. The pay gap exists because women tends to negociate less. And in male-dominated fields (fields that on average, pay more), they tend to be less outspoken, thus less visible, and as every dev here know, at least 50% of all promotions are based on visibility/performative work and not real skills. This law won't change anything for the wage gap (which is smaller and smaller are companies tends to promote less internally and hire external management). Still a fine idea, I'm waiting fir the execution.
- ovi256 4y ago> because women tends to negociate less And unfortunately, not only that, there are some findings that when they do attempt to negotiate, they are perceived badly quicker than men.
- PeterisP 4y ago> This law won't change anything for the wage gap On the contrary, a law like this is clearly a benefit for all people who tend to negotiate less - that reduces the information asymmetry and the role of "haggling"; so I would definitely expect this to reduce the wage gap between the people who currently get market-rate salary because they do hard negotiation and those who currently do not.