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Welp, I officially have AI fatigue. I think I need to take a break from it, which I guess means HN. See you all later this year, if everything still exists by t

Welp, I officially have AI fatigue. I think I need to take a break from it, which I guess means HN. See you all later this year, if everything still exists by then!

cactusplant7374 4y ago
It's getting to be too much. Has anything else ever dominated HN's front page before?
- derwiki 4y ago
  SVB collapse last week, SBF earlier this year, death of Steve Jobs
- wahnfrieden 4y ago
  you want technology and automation practices to remain stagnant or incremental in technology fields?
  - cactusplant7374 4y ago
    I already think they are stagnant but I don't see what that has to do with HN. For every story posted here there are probably 100+ projects we don't see. If your only source of information is HN you're missing out on 99% of the projects.
- speedgoose 4y ago
  Not really, but I can't think about any bigger technology transition in the IT world since the rise of Internet.
  - riku_iki 4y ago
    I think smartphones, google produced more impact. Chatgpt impact is still unproven. Many cute demos but no much businesses and products created.
    - pzo 4y ago
      But before iPhone there were other smartphones and before google was altavista. We might still be in altavista phase but I think even if ChatGPT won’t be a leader 5 years later, 10 years from now will look back at LLM having the same big impact as smartphones and search engines
      - riku_iki 4y ago
        > 10 years from now will look back at LLM having the same big impact as smartphones and search engines that's hypothesis. So far I see high chances of internet to be flooded with junk autogenerated text with hallucinations and code bases be polluted with buggy unmaintainable auto-generated code, and businesses spend significant money on products which goal is to detect autogenerated content.
    - Workaccount2 4y ago
      >Many cute demos but no much businesses and products created. I can vouch that my department will be running a bit smoother in a few weeks once I get a chance to modernize our testing setup with the help of gpt4. I can write python but terribly and the need is so sparse that every time I have to go relearn a bunch of shit. But having a go with GPT4 it seems capable enough to quickly rewrite all our basic procedures that have been done on an ancient computer running a long deprecated program (with the scripts written in a long dead language). It causes us a lot of headache, but never enough at once that I can justify dropping everything for a week or two and respining it with python (and even adding network monitoring!)
- thlabbe 4y ago
  ... may I dare "javascript" after firsts jQuery releases ?
- deleted 4y ago
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- dang 4y ago
  You got a lol out of me with that one, but I'll take it as a sign that we might be doing a partly reasonable job of mitigating this when it happens. One classic case from a decade ago: Ask HN: Can we please slow down the stories about Edward Snowden? - https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=5932645 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=5932645 - June 2013 (155 comments) e.g. https://news.ycombinator.com/front?day=2013-06-22 https://news.ycombinator.com/front?day=2013-06-22 https://news.ycombinator.com/front?day=2013-06-23 https://news.ycombinator.com/front?day=2013-06-23
  - whatshisface 4y ago
    Unfortunately, the public only agrees to forget things that would be good for them to remember. Since this is going to be bad for a lot of people, it's definitely here to stay.
    - dang 4y ago
      We can forget some bad things too!
  - renewiltord 4y ago
    I remember that. It was my first thought. This userscript blocking snowdenposts got wiped from the list of posts https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=5929494 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=5929494 and you couldn't find it on HN or AskHN.
    - dang 4y ago
      That one fell in rank because it was flagged by users at the time.
      - renewiltord 4y ago
        Right, not over administrative action, just that despite there being lots of people who liked it, the majority usually wants this content.
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- deleted 4y ago
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- amelius 4y ago
  No. The iPhone or anything Apple made fades in comparison.
- deleted 4y ago
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- skeaker 4y ago
  The front page almost always had at least a few articles about some cryptocurrency for months just this last year.
hojjat12000 4y ago
Have you been to Github's trending page in the last few months? It's like Chatgpt turned conscious and is using humans to take over the world!
cidergal 4y ago
In all likelihood AI will only become more and more of a household term. First South Park, but I'm sure other pop culture like SNL and The Simpsons will feature GPT or LLM in some way soon. I am not saying to embrace it, more indicating that we haven't seen nothin yet.
- ChatGTP 4y ago
  South Park did weeks ago. Catch up old man.
antegamisou 4y ago
Yeah the frontpage is getting ruined for months with this. It has gotten utterly boring seeing the same dystopia-inducing shit application someone came up with this week getting thousands upvotes, there is much cooler research taking place in other disciplines right now that gets minimal attention. HN has unfortunately become the influencer-equivalent for tech.
- dang 4y ago
  What are examples of the much cooler research? Let's post some of those!
- humanistbot 4y ago
  Ruined? That seems like hyperbole. Maybe 10-20% of posts that make the front page are LLM/GPT related, more on days when a big feature or model is released. Tons of other topics are getting upvoted and discussed. If you're biased against something or some group, you are more likely to overestimate how prevalent it is.
- optimalsolver 4y ago
  >there is much cooler research taking place in other disciplines right now that gets minimal attention Such as...
Karrot_Kream 4y ago
Really? I'm loving this topic. I'm not upvoting all these posts or anything but this feels like HN at its best. Everyone is sharing snippets of their experiments, trading notes, and generally having constructive fun. SMEs are dipping into the occasional thread. The folks who are scared of AI on these threads are all discussing the topic quite reasonably. Is some of it derivative or low-effort, probably for some karma farming? Sure. But, this is a welcome change from the usual "hyperbolic anger about latest tech drama" content (cough Musk cough) that starves the oxygen on tech sites so frequently and imparts a tabloid-y feel, IMO.
version_five 4y ago
The stories I can live with, it's the people posting chatgpt output that are killing me. It's one thing to see advances in a technology, even if it's devolved to "llama port to C++ now loads slightly faster!!". It's another to have to wade through people posting garbage that they for some reason assume adds to a discussion and for some reason don't realize that anyone who wants to could also generate it. The interesting thing is that for all the hype, other than provide some fleetingly interesting example of "look what a computer did on it's own" it has only subtracted from public discourse.

Welp, I officially have AI fatigue. I think I need to take a break from it, which I guess means HN. See you all later this year, if everything still exists by then!

cactusplant7374 4y ago

It's getting to be too much. Has anything else ever dominated HN's front page before?

derwiki 4y ago
SVB collapse last week, SBF earlier this year, death of Steve Jobs
wahnfrieden 4y ago
you want technology and automation practices to remain stagnant or incremental in technology fields?
- cactusplant7374 4y ago
  I already think they are stagnant but I don't see what that has to do with HN. For every story posted here there are probably 100+ projects we don't see. If your only source of information is HN you're missing out on 99% of the projects.
speedgoose 4y ago
Not really, but I can't think about any bigger technology transition in the IT world since the rise of Internet.
- riku_iki 4y ago
  I think smartphones, google produced more impact. Chatgpt impact is still unproven. Many cute demos but no much businesses and products created.
  - pzo 4y ago
    But before iPhone there were other smartphones and before google was altavista. We might still be in altavista phase but I think even if ChatGPT won’t be a leader 5 years later, 10 years from now will look back at LLM having the same big impact as smartphones and search engines
    - riku_iki 4y ago
      > 10 years from now will look back at LLM having the same big impact as smartphones and search engines that's hypothesis. So far I see high chances of internet to be flooded with junk autogenerated text with hallucinations and code bases be polluted with buggy unmaintainable auto-generated code, and businesses spend significant money on products which goal is to detect autogenerated content.
  - Workaccount2 4y ago
    >Many cute demos but no much businesses and products created. I can vouch that my department will be running a bit smoother in a few weeks once I get a chance to modernize our testing setup with the help of gpt4. I can write python but terribly and the need is so sparse that every time I have to go relearn a bunch of shit. But having a go with GPT4 it seems capable enough to quickly rewrite all our basic procedures that have been done on an ancient computer running a long deprecated program (with the scripts written in a long dead language). It causes us a lot of headache, but never enough at once that I can justify dropping everything for a week or two and respining it with python (and even adding network monitoring!)
thlabbe 4y ago
... may I dare "javascript" after firsts jQuery releases ?
deleted 4y ago
[deleted]
dang 4y ago
You got a lol out of me with that one, but I'll take it as a sign that we might be doing a partly reasonable job of mitigating this when it happens. One classic case from a decade ago: Ask HN: Can we please slow down the stories about Edward Snowden? - https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=5932645 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=5932645 - June 2013 (155 comments) e.g. https://news.ycombinator.com/front?day=2013-06-22 https://news.ycombinator.com/front?day=2013-06-22 https://news.ycombinator.com/front?day=2013-06-23 https://news.ycombinator.com/front?day=2013-06-23
- whatshisface 4y ago
  Unfortunately, the public only agrees to forget things that would be good for them to remember. Since this is going to be bad for a lot of people, it's definitely here to stay.
  - dang 4y ago
    We can forget some bad things too!
- renewiltord 4y ago
  I remember that. It was my first thought. This userscript blocking snowdenposts got wiped from the list of posts https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=5929494 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=5929494 and you couldn't find it on HN or AskHN.
  - dang 4y ago
    That one fell in rank because it was flagged by users at the time.
    - renewiltord 4y ago
      Right, not over administrative action, just that despite there being lots of people who liked it, the majority usually wants this content.
- 4y ago
deleted 4y ago
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amelius 4y ago
No. The iPhone or anything Apple made fades in comparison.
deleted 4y ago
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skeaker 4y ago
The front page almost always had at least a few articles about some cryptocurrency for months just this last year.

hojjat12000 4y ago

Have you been to Github's trending page in the last few months? It's like Chatgpt turned conscious and is using humans to take over the world!

cidergal 4y ago

In all likelihood AI will only become more and more of a household term. First South Park, but I'm sure other pop culture like SNL and The Simpsons will feature GPT or LLM in some way soon. I am not saying to embrace it, more indicating that we haven't seen nothin yet.

ChatGTP 4y ago
South Park did weeks ago. Catch up old man.

antegamisou 4y ago

Yeah the frontpage is getting ruined for months with this. It has gotten utterly boring seeing the same dystopia-inducing shit application someone came up with this week getting thousands upvotes, there is much cooler research taking place in other disciplines right now that gets minimal attention. HN has unfortunately become the influencer-equivalent for tech.

dang 4y ago
What are examples of the much cooler research? Let's post some of those!
humanistbot 4y ago
Ruined? That seems like hyperbole. Maybe 10-20% of posts that make the front page are LLM/GPT related, more on days when a big feature or model is released. Tons of other topics are getting upvoted and discussed. If you're biased against something or some group, you are more likely to overestimate how prevalent it is.
optimalsolver 4y ago
>there is much cooler research taking place in other disciplines right now that gets minimal attention Such as...

Karrot_Kream 4y ago

Really? I'm loving this topic. I'm not upvoting all these posts or anything but this feels like HN at its best. Everyone is sharing snippets of their experiments, trading notes, and generally having constructive fun. SMEs are dipping into the occasional thread. The folks who are scared of AI on these threads are all discussing the topic quite reasonably. Is some of it derivative or low-effort, probably for some karma farming? Sure. But, this is a welcome change from the usual "hyperbolic anger about latest tech drama" content (cough Musk cough) that starves the oxygen on tech sites so frequently and imparts a tabloid-y feel, IMO.

version_five 4y ago

The stories I can live with, it's the people posting chatgpt output that are killing me. It's one thing to see advances in a technology, even if it's devolved to "llama port to C++ now loads slightly faster!!". It's another to have to wade through people posting garbage that they for some reason assume adds to a discussion and for some reason don't realize that anyone who wants to could also generate it. The interesting thing is that for all the hype, other than provide some fleetingly interesting example of "look what a computer did on it's own" it has only subtracted from public discourse.