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Germany Will Move Forward with Marijuana Legalization
- jagermo 4y agoGood. My retirement plan is to have a "pick your weed" style plantation, similar to the "pick your strawberries" fields. probably have to think about pricing for product used on site.
- anononaut 4y agoPicked ganja still needs to be cured, like tobacco. Love the idea, though. I'd visit.
- jagermo 4y agowe will have the fresh picked one for people to cure at home, and some choice snacks and herbs to enjoy onsite. Probably also a cooperation with local bakeries for the munchies :) so far, it is nothing but a dream, however we own a pretty decent plot of land where you can't build anything because it is in a water protection zone. great soil, though.
- moaf 4y agoI don’t think this would work well because of the relatively small harvesting window for flowers. Assuming that it’s an outdoor farm, you’d also have to contend with frost and other factors that could destroy the harvest. I think it would be nice to have a farm that people could visit though and learn about the process. Another idea that I’ve considered before would be to rent a small plot of land on a larger farm, and pay a fee to have someone else grow and harvest the plant for you. Finally, I think there’s a market for a harvesting service, where people bring in whole plants, unharvested, an the company fully processes the plant (trims and cures the flower, makes bubble hash or shatter from the leaves, etc.)
- petre 4y agoSounds pretty much like wine grapes. Have you ever made wine? It's rewarding but it involves many hours of hard work: picking up the grapes at thd right time, carrying countles trays, sorting, crushing, pressing, fermenting, filtering. And that's just the harvesting and processing part. Most people just like to drink the wine, thank you. That's why it's such a value added agricultual product.
- moaf 4y agoI was thinking the same thing about cannabis being more analogous to wine. Processing cannabis is less complicated than making wine, but it still requires precision and time. It seems like it would be better to follow the model of winery tours and tastings, and just apply that to cannabis farms.
- officeplant 4y agoGoing by watching friends grow setups, you'd have to have staggered grow cycles within contained areas to make sure there was always something to pick and cure. The whole fresh picked part seems silly to me, and I'm someone who has contemplated converting scotch tasting journals into weed ones for folks that rant about terpenes all day. I think a "Farm to Jar" setup would be neater, almost like visiting a brewery that does free tours of the grounds. Tour and a tasting room followed by visits to the shop to buy your favorites.
- petre 4y ago> Probably also a cooperation with local bakeries for the munchies Canna-croissant with hemp seeds on the surface, yummy. The trouble with sativa is that a succesful farming operation requires 40 tonnes of fertilizer per hectare and it will bleed the soil dry of nutrients fast. It makes it an interesting proposition for the Dutch agri tech sector, which will grow it tulip style like they do now with flowers and those great looking vegetables that don't have any taste and are pumped with ferts.
- dunefox 4y agoThere is no way this would be legal. No chance.
- ChatGTP 4y agoAs an insomniac who doesn’t live in Germany, I’m jealous!
- subpixel 4y agoI live where weed is legal and all the charm goes right out the window once the allure of illicit fun is gone. There are weed shops everywhere, like fast food places, and the clientele is pretty similar to Burger King. Is there room for high-end product? Sure. But by and large it feels like a commodity play. There might as well be a weed section next to the beer section in the gas station store.
- petre 4y agoBig Tobacco will take over once it's legal at federal level anyway. I guess I'd like it to be more like specialised tea shops or cafés, but it's mainly wishful thinking on my part. The only positive side to this is being able to grow your own stuff without being annoyed by the police. They've got better things to do anyway, like fighting organized crime.
- lisasays 4y agoGood. Time to finally put those dealers in Görli (largely) out of business. For non-locals: that's Görlitzer Park, Berlin, which has largely been owned (and rendered nearly useless) by the dealers for several years now (along with the neighboring streets, and a good chunk of the recreational land on the canal zone nearby).
- giraffe_lady 4y agoHow did they render it useless? I don't know anything about this but I'm picking up "no one goes there anymore it's too crowded" vibes.
- lisasays 4y agoI just go by own impressions - which are that it feels skivvy as all get out to walk through, or in the general vicinity of that park. Hence, rendering it basically useless as a "park".
- beepbooptheory 4y agoWhat is "skivvy" in this context?
- lisasays 4y agoFar too much eye contact and verbal solicitation from random strangers. Just ... standing there as if to intercept you when walking by.
- caseyohara 4y agoI'm guessing they meant "skeevy". Unpleasant, squalid, or distasteful; morally or physically repulsive.
- lisasays 4y agoYou're right; skeevy it is. Need to check my fake hip-sounding lingo.
- euroderf 4y agoI would not be surprised to hear that the beer industry is lobbying against this.
- rayiner 4y agoMarijuana decriminalization amd legalization was billed in part based on the notion that it wasn’t going to change people’s behavior, just decriminalize existing activity. At least in DC, it’s led to a noticeable uptick in marijuana use. You can smell it in the streets in many parts of the city, including in office buildings. It’s sad to see Germany go down the same road.
- Mizza 4y agoYeah, we should keep locking people up and ruining their lives because you notice a smell sometimes.
- lm28469 4y agoThat's a US thing, in Germany and most of western Europe you need a lot more than "smelling" like weed to get anything close to jail time It's already more or less tolerated in Berlin for example
- barbazoo 4y ago> it’s led to a noticeable uptick in marijuana use It'd be interesting to know if that coincided with a reduction in use of other, more destructive drugs such as alcohol.
- klardotsh 4y agoSo far that data is relatively inconclusive, per https://www.cato.org/policy-analysis/effect-state-marijuana-legalizations-2021-update#marijuana-other-substance-use https://www.cato.org/policy-analysis/effect-state-marijuana-... "These data show no clear relationship between marijuana legalization and alcohol use. Alcohol use increased more than the national trend in Washington (1 percentage point more), Massachusetts (2.3 percentage points), California (1.9 percentage points), and Oregon (1.2 percentage points) but decreased in Colorado (–0.75 percentage points), Maine (–1.4 percentage points), Alaska (–1.1 percentage points), and Nevada (–1.8 percentage points)." Interesting to see that the data doesn't reflect what I anecdotally have noticed among my friend group: a near-universal pivot from alcohol to cannabis for 50-80% of occasions. Some 100%. That said, my friend group's demographics probably play a part in this.
- AndyMcConachie 4y agoI wonder if France and Italy will let The Netherlands legalize it as well now.
- ed_mercer 4y agoSad. We need to move away from smoking, not encourage this cancer-causing good-for-nothing behavior. Not to mention it causes streets to smell like a skunk.
- kanwisher 4y agoWeed doesn't cause cancer, perhaps you are thinking of cigarettes
- whateveracct 4y agoHas there been any advancement towards showing that it does? 10 years ago there was nothing, I know. The person you're replying too is clearly just spreading FUD and probably has never partaken in their live - sad!
- belorn 4y agoFirst hit on pubmed: https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/23846283/ https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/23846283/ We know that just inhaling smoke from a wood fueled stove will increase lung cancer risk. What would be unique with Marijuana that makes their imperfectly burned plant particulates more safe than any other imperfectly burned plant matter? The CDC view is also that all smoke from burning things is harmful to the lungs and can cause cancer, regardless of what is being burned. People with lung damage is strongly recommended to avoid getting into contact with smoke, including smoking Marijuana.
- qwytw 4y agoInhaling fumes from burning plant matter can't be good for your lungs though? How can it not increase the chance of cancer (even if to a lesser degree) if you smoked as many joints as some people smoke cigarettes per day (of course you'd have other problems if you tried that)?
- rtontic 4y agoBut people won't smoke a pack of joints a day. Only, like, one per week or so.
- nicbou 4y agoFinally! I have a guide on how to buy weed in Berlin. A big chunk of it warns readers about how sketchy and dangerous it is if you don’t have a trusted contact. Weed is frequently contaminated with really nasty chemicals. A Canadian or American reader might not appreciate how different the environment is from their pre-legalisation days. The weed you buy is genuinely dangerous.
- fxtentacle 4y ago"They could also grow up to three plants for personal use, with rules on enclosing them to prevent youth access" is so wonderfully German. I'm sure there'll be a small 20-page booklet that explains the enclosure rules.