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I assume the parent comment did not make fun of nushell advertizing this, but instead about the rust community advertizing itself all the time.

by k0k0r0 4y ago

huimang 4y ago
To be honest, they have good reason. Being written in a strongly typed, memory-safe language is a huge advantage. Obviously it's not the primary thing to look out for, but I do prefer tools that are written in it.
- zozbot234 4y ago
  > Being written in a strongly typed, memory-safe language is a huge advantage. Great point, C# is a strongly typed and memory-safe language if you don't use unsafe. So this really is a huge advantage for PowerShell.
- vips7L 4y ago
  There are plenty of strongly typed memory safe languages. In fact I think those are the majority of popular languages.
  - HervalFreire 4y ago
    Of course the person you're replying to is talking about languages without a garbage collector. Systems languages with zero cost abstractions.
    - vips7L 4y ago
      But why? There is nothing about a shell that requires zero cost abstractions or no gc. It farms all of its work out to other executables. A shell could be written in literally any language.
  - triyambakam 4y ago
    I'm not really sure which other popular languages would be considered memory safe AND strongly typed. I know of both C and C++ which I wouldn't consider memory safe. And I know of Javascript, which is not strongly typed... so which do you mean?
    - vips7L 4y ago
      Java, Scala, Kotlin, C#, D, Go, and TypeScript to name a few.
      - intelkishan 4y ago
        Even Python fits the bill.
      - scns 4y ago
        Of those only D and Go build self contained binaries (yes i know about Graal/Kotlin Native/.Net AOT). No snark intended.
        vips7L 4y ago
        This is moving the goal post a bit, since the person I replied to was considering JavaScript, but I don’t really think this distinction matters. You get most programs from a package manager. I am curious though why you don’t count graal or .net aot? They are valid options to produce an aot binary and C# has been able to produce a self contained non-aot runtime for a long a time.
  - marcosdumay 4y ago
    Yet, almost all the basic tools in a Unix system are written in C.

I assume the parent comment did not make fun of nushell advertizing this, but instead about the rust community advertizing itself all the time.

by k0k0r0 4y ago

I assume the parent comment did not make fun of nushell advertizing this, but instead about the rust community advertizing itself all the time.

huimang 4y ago

To be honest, they have good reason. Being written in a strongly typed, memory-safe language is a huge advantage. Obviously it's not the primary thing to look out for, but I do prefer tools that are written in it.

zozbot234 4y ago
> Being written in a strongly typed, memory-safe language is a huge advantage. Great point, C# is a strongly typed and memory-safe language if you don't use unsafe. So this really is a huge advantage for PowerShell.
vips7L 4y ago
There are plenty of strongly typed memory safe languages. In fact I think those are the majority of popular languages.
- HervalFreire 4y ago
  Of course the person you're replying to is talking about languages without a garbage collector. Systems languages with zero cost abstractions.
  - vips7L 4y ago
    But why? There is nothing about a shell that requires zero cost abstractions or no gc. It farms all of its work out to other executables. A shell could be written in literally any language.
- triyambakam 4y ago
  I'm not really sure which other popular languages would be considered memory safe AND strongly typed. I know of both C and C++ which I wouldn't consider memory safe. And I know of Javascript, which is not strongly typed... so which do you mean?
  - vips7L 4y ago
    Java, Scala, Kotlin, C#, D, Go, and TypeScript to name a few.
    - intelkishan 4y ago
      Even Python fits the bill.
    - scns 4y ago
      Of those only D and Go build self contained binaries (yes i know about Graal/Kotlin Native/.Net AOT). No snark intended.
      - vips7L 4y ago
        This is moving the goal post a bit, since the person I replied to was considering JavaScript, but I don’t really think this distinction matters. You get most programs from a package manager. I am curious though why you don’t count graal or .net aot? They are valid options to produce an aot binary and C# has been able to produce a self contained non-aot runtime for a long a time.
- marcosdumay 4y ago
  Yet, almost all the basic tools in a Unix system are written in C.