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But Google Plus succeeded - all the permanent employees got a special bonus because of Google’s success in social (first part is sarcastic, second is true).
by nailer 4y ago
But Google Plus succeeded - all the permanent employees got a special bonus because of Google’s success in social (first part is sarcastic, second is true).
- fbdab103 4y agoI suddenly want a listing of company KPIs that were graded successful, but were outright failures. I have personally witnessed my fair share of tire fires which were communicated in a rather fantastical way to management.
- lumost 4y agoThis is the fundamental reason large organizations struggle in the long run. If a cisco vp started a network generative ai initiative tomorrow, and in a year posted some results - do you think those results would ever be received badly? Or would they be massaged until they were good?
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- cpeterso 4y agoEvery Google employee’s OKRs are supposedly readable by anyone in the company. I don’t know if the OKR scoring is also public, but regardless an enterprising individual could scrape other people’s OKRs every quarter and see which keywords are correlated with later promotions.
- aix1 4y ago1. Promotions are not public (by which I mean accessible by anyone at the company). 2. OKRs are not automatically public (some teams choose to publish theirs; many don't).
- hot_gril 4y agoIt's amazing to watch even the lower level SWEs, who don't need to play politics, looking at a dumpster fire and telling their bosses it's great.
- izacus 4y agoThat would probably be 95% of KPIs across all big corporations anywhere. It takes incredible and very rare leadership to be able to admit failures downstream.
- Minor49er 4y agoGoogle Plus succeeded in getting people to provide their real names and other personal information across all of Google's services
- dorkwood 4y agoYes, this is why I stopped leaving comments and reviews. I really can’t have YouTube comments showing up when people Google my name.
- sitzkrieg 4y agoyou can change your youtube display name
- Intermernet 4y agoAre youtube comments indexed by Google for public search? I've never managed to find my own comments via search!
- choppaface 4y agoG+ was indeed an internal success in that: * It made a lot of coddled high-energy employees continue to feel valued and engaged and not jump to a competitor. * It forced users to unify accounts making cookie joining and user data from different segments much more universally accessible to ads. * It brought design uniformity to G on the web, which is an important to contrast the Google brand with the otherwise fragmented Android space. * Lasting revenue and user data from Google Photos and Drive. Google plus was Google doing what it does best: solving Google problems. It never had a chance as a product, but they didn’t need for it to win. They needed to re-consolidate data input to Ads and defend against a talent drain.
- clnq 4y agoWas it really planned for that? This sounds like just a list of initially unplanned effects it had, used as internal PR spin at best.
- choppaface 4y agoThe user account consolidation was pretty explicit. It might have been explained as necessary for UX consistency, but for Ads it was a huge way to whitewash otherwise verboten underwear-smelling. G+ birthed the "create account / log in with Google" widget for non-Google websites, that could go alongside the "log in with FB" widget that was getting popular. Those widgets let Google / FB join your account cookies with whatever other ads get shown on the page. G+ lead to a dramatically changed privacy policy that dramatically increaed data sharing.
- cloudking 4y ago+1 Google Photos is very successful, the product spawned out of G+ auto syncing photos.
- llampx 4y agoWasn't that more from the acquisition of Picasa?
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- gfuwhsbfrtwgs 4y ago(burner account) I was at Google watching the tech all hands with my boss when they announced that "social multiplier" (bonuses tied to success of G+) was going to apply to everyone in the company. I turned to my boss and said, shit, our bonuses are going to be fucked because G+ is going to flop. My boss told me not to worry, since "they are never going to be able to admit that this was a failure". Sure enough, management tried to bullshit everyone on how successful G+ was and we ended up getting a high multiplier for the "success".
- oo00oo00o 4y agoboq though
- hyperhopper 4y agoEasy to succeed when you transitively infect the entire codebase due to conformance and the way build dependencies are set up.
- diceduckmonk 4y agoWhat framework would you have preferred be endemic instead of Boq?
- marmee 4y agopod? boq acts as if it gives you modularity but try attaching C++ code to Java
- rhaway84773 4y agoWhat’s hilarious about the G+ rollout (in a highly dark comedy way) is that G+ was probably a superior offering than the competition. If Google had given it time and opportunity to fail, it would have succeeded because they could then fix the minor issues people didn’t like. Instead they forced it on everyone using any Google product, hurting the product itself, but also preventing the critical feedback loop that would have allowed G+ to improve, and become organically successful.
- milsorgen 4y agoI found G+ quite compelling. It was pleasant to use and I'm sure could of grown into a platform of its own. A place for features that made sense in their time and place and some kind of integration in some products. It seems YouTube is gaining some social features, for instance posts to followers and live chat. I think these would of been interesting areas to utilize g+. But then again I'm outside looking in, I can't speak to the costs they might of incurred letting things unfold at a more measured pace.
- jimbob45 4y agoIt wasn’t meaningfully better than FB (at the time) and there was no reason to switch.
- browningstreet 4y agoScoble loved it /s
- lern_too_spel 4y agoHis former boss lit that dumpster fire. https://scobleizer.blog/2006/06/28/wow-vic-gundotra-leaves-microsoft/ https://scobleizer.blog/2006/06/28/wow-vic-gundotra-leaves-m... https://techcrunch.com/2014/04/24/vic-gundotra-the-father-of-google-is-leaving-google-after-8-years/ https://techcrunch.com/2014/04/24/vic-gundotra-the-father-of...
- hyperhopper 4y ago
- senectus1 4y agoman I miss G+ I have FB and refuse to use it, Twitter is purely for bored doom scrolling and thats about all I use. Google+ was great, worked exactly how i wanted it and didn't try to sell me crap i didnt want to know about
- labster 4y agoThe Facebook was great in 2005, too. If G+ had lasted longer I’m sure it would have gotten worse by now.
- hot_gril 4y agoFB in 2005 was better in some ways, but iirc it didn't have pages, events, or communities yet, and those were truly useful features. I was a holdout until I went to college and saw how many clubs and stuff, even marketplaces (pre FB marketplace), were usefully organized on FB. I could log into FB, browse the world-famous UC Berkeley meme page, RSVP for a comp sci talk, message my 8 group chats, sell my iClicker, buy a dining commons swipe, and message one of those "my sister needs a date for a party" ads all in one place.