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This is a good feature. Arc has a slightly better implementation of this. Cmd+shift+C is the copy current tab URL shortcut, and it removes trackers by default a

This is a good feature. Arc has a slightly better implementation of this. Cmd+shift+C is the copy current tab URL shortcut, and it removes trackers by default and lets you know it's "a clean URL without trackers :)" in the flash notification. I'd like to see Brave similarly make the default copy clean and add a copy with trackers second option.

andai 4y ago
A browser with a waiting list.. now I've seen it all!
- ASalazarMX 4y ago
  For the lazy, clicking [Try it for yourself] asks for your email to notify you when "your spot is ready and waiting!". https://arc.net/ https://arc.net/ Must be a responsibly release, don't want too many powerusers flooding the web at once.
  - ciwolsey 4y ago
    All I learned from that mess of a site is that Arc is a browser of some kind.
  - jklinger410 4y ago
    IIRC this is Mac only. Although it is developed on top of Chromium. I guess Power Users only use Mac.
    - 1123581321 4y ago
      They’re developing a Windows version right now.
      - jklinger410 4y ago
        Very cool. When they finally develop a Linux version of their Chromium based browser (already cross-platform) I will consider giving it a shot.
        1123581321 4y ago
        Sarcasm acknowledged. :) It's okay if you don't like the browser I like.
    - LoganDark 4y ago
      > I guess Power Users only use Mac. Little Snitch and Audio Hijack/Loopback and Sketchapp and iA Writer and Inklet certainly think so. There are no Windows/cross-platform analogues for any of these. No firewall that suspends connections for an interactive prompt, no way to create virtual audio devices or route audio in Windows, no equivalent to Sketch (Figma comes close I guess) and the Windows version of iA Writer is pretty pathetic. And Inklet simply doesn't have a Windows equivalent even when I have an official Apple Magic Trackpad connected to my computer. There's just a lot of cool stuff that isn't available for other OSes.
      - black_puppydog 4y ago
        not sure about sketchapp and inklet, but the first examples are extremely platform specific to the point of requiring a rewrite for different platforms
        LoganDark 4y ago
        > the first examples are extremely platform specific to the point of requiring a rewrite for different platforms Oh, I know. Just cause nobody's done it yet doesn't mean it's not fair to say that macOS is the only operating system that has tools like these already made, though.
      - jraph 4y ago
        > No firewall that suspends connections for an interactive prompt Didn't ZoneAlarm do that on Windows in the 2000s?
        mh- 4y ago
        there's one I used in the 90s too, like in the XP era, whose name escapes me now.
        LoganDark 4y ago
        > Didn't ZoneAlarm do that on Windows in the 2000s? AFAIK those connections were blocked, not suspended, until you answered the prompt. Does ZoneAlarm still advertise this / is it documented anywhere? I can't find any info on it.
    - smsm42 4y ago
      Finally, the revenge of Windows users for all those years of "sure we support every platform. I mean every Windows platform of course!" (jk of course)
    - soundnote 4y ago
      It's not power users per se, but these sorts of apps are essentially fashion and all the people making them are long time Mac heads. The fancy software startup space is really faddish and incestuous.
  - throwaway742 4y ago
    >the Browser Company of New York lol
- jemmyw 4y ago
  Not just a waiting list. You cannot use this browser without signing up for an account.
  - imbnwa 4y ago
    Hide my Email? TBF, for people who are high-sprawl but organized, the UI is next-level as it supercedes multiple windows/bookmarks as org tools and offers a number of affordances that minimize the 'manual resource management', if you will, of legacy browser UIs.
    - JohnFen 4y ago
      It's rather too bad that their website doesn't actually mention any of the benefits of their browser. Particularly when you can't even give it a go.
  - xmprt 4y ago
    It's also your s p a c e to breathe on the internet... Whatever that means.
    - presentation 4y ago
      To be fair I’m using Arc and it’s the best browser UX I’ve ever experienced, although it’s still Chromium.
      - xmprt 4y ago
        I don't doubt that. I just think their marketing is actively trying to avoid getting new users.
  - JohnFen 4y ago
    Really?? That's a showstopper right there.
jklinger410 4y ago
Not every query string in a URL is about tracking. This will break some sites. EDIT: Correction, they are very conservative with which strings are filtered out. See here: https://github.com/brave/brave-core/blob/master/browser/net/brave_query_filter.cc https://github.com/brave/brave-core/blob/master/browser/net/...
- dymk 4y ago
  Where did you read that it removes the whole query string?
  - jklinger410 4y ago
    You're right, after looking in their documentation I found that they are very conservative with which strings they filter out. They only look for specific KNOWN user-level targeting strings to strip. This is actually a very nuanced route for them to take. Other plugins will just filter out everything following a query. Here is the fine details for those interested: https://github.com/brave/brave-core/blob/master/browser/net/brave_query_filter.cc https://github.com/brave/brave-core/blob/master/browser/net/... As a marketer, they do mention that they retain Campaign level parameters, however the click ID is more than just a user-level identifier. Many times a click ID is the only thing that survives different environments in order to provide any attribution at all. In fact, a click ID is much more privacy aware and anonymous in every circumstance than a website giving you your own user ID. All good web platforms generate a unique ID for you, which is not anonymized for the web platform. Whereas the click ID is always anonymized for the web platform. When you combine the two, you get a very basic piece of information: this user clicked this ad. Now those websites will still know who you are as a user, and still know which campaign you came from, but not when you specifically clicked. Wow, what a privacy save! Removing it does very little to reduce what Google knows about you. Google does not need your click ID. The only time it is used is for conversion attribution, and it is completely anonymized between the ad platform and the marketers who run the campaigns. So this is mostly just sticking it to the little guy, as large data platforms don't need ad-level click IDs to track you. But if you want to make sure that no marketer ever gets credit for driving you to perform an action, then this is for you!

andai 4y ago

A browser with a waiting list.. now I've seen it all!

ASalazarMX 4y ago
For the lazy, clicking [Try it for yourself] asks for your email to notify you when "your spot is ready and waiting!". https://arc.net/ https://arc.net/ Must be a responsibly release, don't want too many powerusers flooding the web at once.
- ciwolsey 4y ago
  All I learned from that mess of a site is that Arc is a browser of some kind.
- jklinger410 4y ago
  IIRC this is Mac only. Although it is developed on top of Chromium. I guess Power Users only use Mac.
  - 1123581321 4y ago
    They’re developing a Windows version right now.
    - jklinger410 4y ago
      Very cool. When they finally develop a Linux version of their Chromium based browser (already cross-platform) I will consider giving it a shot.
      - 1123581321 4y ago
        Sarcasm acknowledged. :) It's okay if you don't like the browser I like.
  - LoganDark 4y ago
    > I guess Power Users only use Mac. Little Snitch and Audio Hijack/Loopback and Sketchapp and iA Writer and Inklet certainly think so. There are no Windows/cross-platform analogues for any of these. No firewall that suspends connections for an interactive prompt, no way to create virtual audio devices or route audio in Windows, no equivalent to Sketch (Figma comes close I guess) and the Windows version of iA Writer is pretty pathetic. And Inklet simply doesn't have a Windows equivalent even when I have an official Apple Magic Trackpad connected to my computer. There's just a lot of cool stuff that isn't available for other OSes.
    - black_puppydog 4y ago
      not sure about sketchapp and inklet, but the first examples are extremely platform specific to the point of requiring a rewrite for different platforms
      - LoganDark 4y ago
        > the first examples are extremely platform specific to the point of requiring a rewrite for different platforms Oh, I know. Just cause nobody's done it yet doesn't mean it's not fair to say that macOS is the only operating system that has tools like these already made, though.
    - jraph 4y ago
      > No firewall that suspends connections for an interactive prompt Didn't ZoneAlarm do that on Windows in the 2000s?
      - mh- 4y ago
        there's one I used in the 90s too, like in the XP era, whose name escapes me now.
      - LoganDark 4y ago
        > Didn't ZoneAlarm do that on Windows in the 2000s? AFAIK those connections were blocked, not suspended, until you answered the prompt. Does ZoneAlarm still advertise this / is it documented anywhere? I can't find any info on it.
  - smsm42 4y ago
    Finally, the revenge of Windows users for all those years of "sure we support every platform. I mean every Windows platform of course!" (jk of course)
  - soundnote 4y ago
    It's not power users per se, but these sorts of apps are essentially fashion and all the people making them are long time Mac heads. The fancy software startup space is really faddish and incestuous.
- throwaway742 4y ago
  >the Browser Company of New York lol
jemmyw 4y ago
Not just a waiting list. You cannot use this browser without signing up for an account.
- imbnwa 4y ago
  Hide my Email? TBF, for people who are high-sprawl but organized, the UI is next-level as it supercedes multiple windows/bookmarks as org tools and offers a number of affordances that minimize the 'manual resource management', if you will, of legacy browser UIs.
  - JohnFen 4y ago
    It's rather too bad that their website doesn't actually mention any of the benefits of their browser. Particularly when you can't even give it a go.
- xmprt 4y ago
  It's also your s p a c e to breathe on the internet... Whatever that means.
  - presentation 4y ago
    To be fair I’m using Arc and it’s the best browser UX I’ve ever experienced, although it’s still Chromium.
    - xmprt 4y ago
      I don't doubt that. I just think their marketing is actively trying to avoid getting new users.
- JohnFen 4y ago
  Really?? That's a showstopper right there.

jklinger410 4y ago

Not every query string in a URL is about tracking. This will break some sites. EDIT: Correction, they are very conservative with which strings are filtered out. See here: https://github.com/brave/brave-core/blob/master/browser/net/brave_query_filter.cc https://github.com/brave/brave-core/blob/master/browser/net/...

dymk 4y ago
Where did you read that it removes the whole query string?
- jklinger410 4y ago
  You're right, after looking in their documentation I found that they are very conservative with which strings they filter out. They only look for specific KNOWN user-level targeting strings to strip. This is actually a very nuanced route for them to take. Other plugins will just filter out everything following a query. Here is the fine details for those interested: https://github.com/brave/brave-core/blob/master/browser/net/brave_query_filter.cc https://github.com/brave/brave-core/blob/master/browser/net/... As a marketer, they do mention that they retain Campaign level parameters, however the click ID is more than just a user-level identifier. Many times a click ID is the only thing that survives different environments in order to provide any attribution at all. In fact, a click ID is much more privacy aware and anonymous in every circumstance than a website giving you your own user ID. All good web platforms generate a unique ID for you, which is not anonymized for the web platform. Whereas the click ID is always anonymized for the web platform. When you combine the two, you get a very basic piece of information: this user clicked this ad. Now those websites will still know who you are as a user, and still know which campaign you came from, but not when you specifically clicked. Wow, what a privacy save! Removing it does very little to reduce what Google knows about you. Google does not need your click ID. The only time it is used is for conversion attribution, and it is completely anonymized between the ad platform and the marketers who run the campaigns. So this is mostly just sticking it to the little guy, as large data platforms don't need ad-level click IDs to track you. But if you want to make sure that no marketer ever gets credit for driving you to perform an action, then this is for you!