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Twitter was down
- dcow 4y agoY'all are silly and insufferable. Twitter had a temporary outage that was quickly rectified and you act like it’s some massive catastrophe directly caused by his highness Elon. Like you’ve never pushed a breaking change before…
- grumple 4y agoI am not able to access twitter in any way from my macbook's browser. I can access it from my mobile browser.
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- No_CQRT 4y ago{"errors":[{"message":"Your current API plan does not include access to this endpoint, please see https://developer.twitter.com/en/docs/twitter-api https://developer.twitter.com/en/docs/twitter-api for more information","code":467}]}
- tledakis 4y agoit was working a couple of hours ago :( RIP
- post-it 4y agoInterestingly, that URL has the same message! A type of quine?
- PenguinRevolver 4y agoMost recent snapshot of the URL in the message gave you a recursive error: https://web.archive.org/web/20230306165738/https://developer.twitter.com/en/docs/twitter-api https://web.archive.org/web/20230306165738/https://developer...
- return_to_monke 4y agowait, so did they lock themselves out of their api?
- adamckay 4y agoThey didn't pay $8.
- mywittyname 4y agoElon's latest money making strategy: internal teams have to pay $70/mo for access to APIs managed by other teams.
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- jeffbee 4y agoIncredible that MuskBird lacks the alien technology of checking the log to see which customers are still using the API before turning it off.
- shadowgovt 4y agoNormally, this solution works great. At Twitter's scale with the number of API users they had, I can't imagine how they'd filter the signal out of the noise. This is very much a "someone would have had to know we're using our own API to avoid this disaster" scenario, which is an institutional knowledge problem. The kind of problem that gets hard to solve when XX% of your workforce suddenly left to seek new opportunities.
- jeffbee 4y agoSorry no. It is not an oral history problem. You simply group the stats by caller. “At Twitter scale” implies they already have this dashboard.
- shadowgovt 4y agoAh, good point. Twitter should have been the largest caller. That 467 error code suggests to me something else is going on and Twitter is emitting the wrong error message (467 isn't a standard HTTP, so I'm wondering if something lower-level emitted a 467 error, it was misinterpreted as an HTTP status, and the error string chooser logic is giving that API access error message due to fall-through).
- sherwooddd 4y agoplease see https://developer.twitter.com/en/docs/twitter-api https://developer.twitter.com/en/docs/twitter-api for more information
- yboris 4y agoSo cool! I've never seen a self-referential error!
- NovemberWhiskey 4y agoRecursive error message, best error message.
- rozenmd 4y agoIf you like graphs, I've been watching this outage from OnlineOrNot (https://twitter.onlineornot.com/ https://twitter.onlineornot.com/)
- rozenmd 4y agoLooks like it's back up, was down for 56 minutes.
- nickcotter 4y agoOn the positive side website response time has seen a dramatic improvement…
- minimaxir 4y agoFor context, most of Twitter appears to be having issues (t.co links and images are also broken) Given all the random things Elon has cut from Twitter, it wouldn't surprise me if that included a staging environment.
- jebronie 4y agoOne of the criticisms against the old twitter engineering team was that they failed to set up proper dev and testing environments. A leaker exposed all of this and it was later confirmed by Musk in a Twitter Spaces call.
- henry_viii 4y agoI'm also getting the same error for the homepage.
- danso 4y agoSpeculation is that t.co link shortener service is broke : https://twitter.com/emollick/status/1632788892599586816 https://twitter.com/emollick/status/1632788892599586816 > The Twitter outage seems to be around a critical piece of infrastructure: the Twitter link shortener. > Every link on Twitter has been shortened to a t.co link. Only Twitter’s systems know where the link goes > If these systems ever go down, its link rot at scale
- Proven 4y ago[dead]
- shadowgovt 4y ago> If these systems ever go down, its link rot at scale Only if one's mental model is that t.co links were ever permanent. They're privately-owned obfuscator links. Unless someone in the wild was building a mirror mapping, they were always doomed and never to be trusted; they knocked the "U" right out of the "URL."
- dagmx 4y agoIsn’t that true of any url though? The U is for uniformly useable, it never guarantees uniform resolution.
- shagmin 4y agoIt's even more-so true for t.co URLs though because instead of just 1 point of failure there are 2 points of failure. The original URL may work for another decade but if you don't know what the URL is behind the t.co URL and Twitter is down or whatever, then you're just out of luck.
- dagmx 4y agoI don’t think it necessarily changes the reliability of the URL. A server or dns change is similarly problematic. The only issues I have with shorteners is that they obfuscate what you’re accessing (so if it changes, it’s harder to know) and they’re a privacy issue
- roboyoshi 4y agoIn case people are wondering what this is about: All links and images are not working on twitter right now. Seems like they accidentally included their own services in the api blocklist? Sending best of luck to the engineers. The whole twitter saga has given me a good chunk of valuable "lesson learned" over the last weeks and months.. so thanks for that.
- secondcoming 4y agoEverything seems fine for me when I use the main website.
- meowtimemania 4y agoI see the issue on iOS
- orra 4y agoAre you logged in? Twitter seems to be working normally (i.e. it refreshes) where I'm logged into the browser. But where I'm not, I get the error message everybody's seeing.
- mikeyouse 4y agoNo new links or images work for me from the main website. Cached stuff seems okay.
- almog 4y agoPerhaps it's region specific but I get 467 errors right now for images on both mobile android and desktop web.
- aniforprez 4y agoDefinitely region specific I think. It's working mostly fine for me. Links and images are mostly fine except for the errant occasional broken one but even then it's only when opening the full image
- yk 4y ago
- mcoliver 4y agoSeems to be affecting web view but not mobile clients. Wonder if this has anything to do with them not paying their AWS bill as reported the other day.
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- AdamH12113 4y agoEven the homepage seems to be down as of 11:15am CST. Same error message. https://twitter.com/ https://twitter.com/
- _fizz_buzz_ 4y agoI think only if you are not logged in. I get the error in incognito mode.
- jedberg 4y agoI was logged in and got it too.
- anonymfus 4y agoI get it both as logged in user and in incognito mode since at least 17:04 UTC. Probably different front-end servers.
- neuronexmachina 4y agoAlas, their login page gives the same error: https://twitter.com/login https://twitter.com/login
- wussboy 4y agoThat’s…gonna make it hard to get logged in to not see the message…
- O__________O 4y agoError randomly shows up if you’re not logged in; meaning not logged in I have seen error and error free homepage too.
- 2pEXgD0fZ5cF 4y agoI am/was logged in, still get the error.
- systemvoltage 4y ago
- papito 4y agoTwitter devs don't have Slack right now to even discuss this. They are all in one crowded conference call, panicking, and with Elon screaming.
- arkitaip 4y agoMaybe we could GoFundMe a couple of Slack accounts to the Twitter devs?
- Saka_QL 4y agoThis happened right as I was using Selenium to log in to Twitter for a project. Was wondering what the hell I was doing wrong until I saw this and realized it wasn't just me.
- zitterbewegung 4y agoTwitter is broken for all users. Dang or someone else should merge this with the other twitter post on the front-page.
- nkozyra 4y agoI can't remember a major service nosediving so monumentally in such a short period of time. Just a steady degradation of service.
- edgyquant 4y agoAt this rate it’ll be Reddit-tier by EOY
- nkozyra 4y ago> At this rate it’ll be Reddit-tier by EOY I don't spend enough time on Reddit for that to really resonate, but the badges and icons flying all over the place and talk of Twitter Gold (or whatever they're calling it) do feel very Reddit-esque these days.
- Zetice 4y agoReddit is fine? Not sure what this means…
- sleepybrett 4y agoI mean, reddit certainly has more downtime that twitter, historically over the last say 5 years. At least once a week i'm met with the 'trippin' out snoo for a few minutes.
- jurassicfoxy 4y agoReddit crashes almost weekly it seems. Search is completely broken. The site's UI (new, not old.reddit) is truly atrocious.
- azangru 4y agoTheir website is broken for normal users. Try visiting anyone's profile page over the web — you'll get a 467 error [0] e.g. Elon: https://twitter.com/elonmusk https://twitter.com/elonmusk
- Tijdreiziger 4y agoWorks fine on my end (considering the contents of his tweets, I almost wish it didn't, though...)
- akiselev 4y agoTo save everyone the click his feed is equal parts misogyny [1], 3 AM shit posting [2], and tantalizing flashes of self awareness [3]. [1] https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1632574090216103937 https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1632574090216103937 [2] https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1632682409366781953 https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1632682409366781953 [3] https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1632275726912110593 https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1632275726912110593
- SamBam 4y agoThat second one, poking fun at the BBC for saying that Twitter "can't protect users from trolling," was really the BBC shooting itself in the foot with a laughable headline burying the lede of the article: > Twitter insiders: We can't protect users from trolling under Musk > Twitter insiders have told the BBC that the company is no longer able to protect users from trolling, state-co-ordinated disinformation and child sexual exploitation, following lay-offs and changes under owner Elon Musk. [1] For some reason, the headline decided to focus on "trolling" over an increase in child sexual assault and state-co-ordinated disinformation... 1. https://www.bbc.com/news/technology-64804007 https://www.bbc.com/news/technology-64804007
- dbfx 4y agoHonestly the "insider" even talking about "protecting" people from trolling and state co-ordinated misinformation(?) in the same sentence as protecting them from csam makes it very hard to believe it's something genuine. Sounds like the people who say all the petty things they dislike about someone on the internet and then finishes with "he's a pedo" to add gravitas.(yes elon does fall into this category)
- nkozyra 4y agoI don't think I could have predicted - even given the wanton layoffs - that the service would deteriorate so quickly across the board. I barely use the app anymore and half the time stuff isn't loading at all or is broken in obvious, overt ways. Just ... stunning.
- manquer 4y agoIt not just the layoffs it is also the major changes Elon is forcing through at high speed . Hiring for twitter is going to be quite expensive, nobody is taking this up without huge payoff and probably upfront given Elon pre disposition not to honor severance etc
- sf_rob 4y agoHe seems to be of the belief that Twitter's issues are bottom line not top line. Hiring would require a major shift in belief.
- manquer 4y agoThere is so only firing you can do and attrition you can handle before you have to start replacing staff . Either he shuts it down at the point or he has to spend a lot of money . IMO More likely he shuts down and blame any range of external factors were conspiring to take him down rather than accept he decisions were wrong
- billti 4y ago> half the time stuff isn't loading at all or is broken in obvious, overt ways I use the app for a couple hours a day (according to my iPhone weekly reports), and have barely noticed any degradation since "the takeover". (Notwithstanding the obvious outage happening currently). There's been a few minor glitches for sure, but then what large service is immune? Facebook, Exchange, AWS, etc. have all had notable outages this past year, and the Apple Services I regularly use (Apple Music, Siri, etc.) "fail" more often for me in daily use. Maybe you're trying to do something more advanced than me, or are using a less reliable platform somehow, but generally I find all the "Twitter is so dead" talk being confirmation bias from folks that really want it to fail in light of recent changes.
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- KarlKemp 4y agoYeah, they stopped paying for API access because it got insanely expensive.
- hathym 4y ago@elon, what have you done?
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- adoxyz 4y agoHardcore engineering at work.
- x86x87 4y agoMuskops!
- u320 4y agoThe fun part is that the CEO is on Twitter as this happens, arguing about COVID.
- it_citizen 4y agoWhen I checked this morning, he was busy posting borderline sexist dad jokes: (https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1632574090216103937 https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1632574090216103937) I still don't understand why every fifth post in my feed is an Elon tweet, I don't even follow him. I could block him but I find it interesting to see how much of his content is pushed toward me who hasn't asked for it.
- IntelMiner 4y agoHe intentionally demanded the site be jury-rigged to force-feed everyone his posts regardless
- kzrdude 4y agoIt's unintentionally becoming a symbol of its downturn.
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- smcl 4y agoMaybe better to block him. I did so because I was a bit sick of seeing his tweets - some of them are borderline offensive, some are him cosying up with far-right but the majority are just a bit try-hard, unfunny and ultimately sad. I'm not a delicate flower when it comes to offense so I'd just roll my eyes when the first two kinds of tweets popped up. But seeing a grown man repeatedly trying and failing so hard at being a poster is a bit much to take.
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- EdSharkey 4y agoHe's the richest man in the world again, we're just jealous. ;)
- popularrecluse 4y ago“I would expect to start seeing significant public-facing problems with the technology within six months,” he says. “And I feel like that’s a generous estimate.” https://www.technologyreview.com/2022/11/08/1062886/heres-how-a-twitter-engineer-says-it-will-break-in-the-coming-weeks/ https://www.technologyreview.com/2022/11/08/1062886/heres-ho...
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- Aperocky 4y agoA certain percentage of engineers have to keep the lights on. It's usually around 10%-40%, depending on staffing levels and engineering quality. But there's one more gotcha, a company can't just keep 10% - 40% and expect the service to still run, because it's rotating and oncalls can always reach out to other people on the team. Twitter not only fired indiscriminately, with perverse pattern (more capable to find another job leave first), and didn't even keep the minimum to keep the lights on. From a software engineering perspective, it's doomed to fail, maybe it can retract to a smaller footprint (abandoning features/stacks) and still work, but that would also be pretty hard. That, and I don't think anyone not desperate will apply for a job there in the foreseeable future.
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- thesuitonym 4y agoThis is the sad thing. I don't even use Twitter, except when a site is down, I go to the company's twitter to see if they're saying anything about it. Can't do that this time, I guess.
- coldpie 4y agoYes, it is a bummer. Twitter was far from perfect, but it was the only large social media platform I felt took its role as a publisher at least kind-of seriously and worked towards clamping down on misinformation and hate speech. Musk spending truly unimaginable quantity of resources in order to turn the only kinda-sorta-semi-decent social network into yet another hands-off also-ran is pretty devastating. Here's hoping for its swift fall so something better can fill the gap.
- r00fus 4y agoHe has shown his character by his actions. I find it's more clear to not listen to what people say, instead watch what they do.
- tayo42 4y agotwitter is only important if your stuck in the bubble of twitter people. Tons of people dont use twitter, let alone even write on there. to get even like 1000 replies is still an insignificant amount, even though it feels like a lot. there are 300million people in just the US. thinking twitter replies are meaningful or represent enough people to have discourse is disconnected from the real world.
- Gabriel_Martin 4y agoFor people who needed visibility and access to a platform it's actually a quite important tool. I'm not talking about the frivolous uses.
- qingdao99 4y agoMost Twitter subdomains are down with the same error. help.twitter.com, api.twitter.com, developer.twitter.com etc.
- wildpeaks 4y agoNot just Tweetdeck, all images and videos on the website too, and even the homepage doesn't load.
- hiddendoom45 4y agoIt does appear that the undocumented api that nitter uses still works and is unblocked by this change as I've been able to access twitter through nitter.
- swyx 4y agois it cached? have you tried viewing new tweets
- hiddendoom45 4y agoNo, it was also working with the self-hosted nitter instance I was using which should have almost nothing cached. Double checked with a new tweet posted in this thread.
- jedberg 4y agoThis is actually funny. Just this weekend I was talking to another engineer friend of mine, and we were taking bets as to how long it would be before twitter went down for the last time. We felt bad for the engineers that are still there, and were actually surprised it's stayed up this long, with all the knowledge that walked out the door. Basic stuff like "where are our servers actually located". I guess the folks that left loved Twitter enough to leave behind good notes, because even the most well architected systems still need some institutional knowledge when they go down.
- renewiltord 4y agoWhere did you land on the bets? It appears that when Twitter goes down, its engineers were indispensable but when it's up, it's because the engineers foresaw this. Given those factors, how long it stays up must be an interesting combination of how indispensable the engineers made themselves vs how much foresight they had.
- jedberg 4y agoI know some of the former Twitter engineers, and they were great engineers. I'm sure they built a fairly resilient system. But at the scale and complexity, eventually you hit an unforeseen error that requires some institutional knowledge to fix, and it's doubtful they still have that, unless the ex-engineers loved the product so much they are willing to take phone calls from the people that are left and point them in the right direction. I don't think we landed on a time frame. I'm actually surprised it stayed up this long.
- TigeriusKirk 4y agoDo you actually think it will go down for good? That seems extremely unlikely to me.
- jedberg 4y agoNo, eventually they would figure out how to rewrite it if they can't get it working again. But I could definitely see a multi-week outage.
- nickthegreek 4y agoTheir status page once again shows no issues. https://api.twitterstat.us/ https://api.twitterstat.us/
- wussboy 4y agoOne can only assume the system that updates the status page is down.
- petercooper 4y agoOn an unrelated point, Californian employees in the main layoff were employed till January 4 for legal reasons. Many of them were demanding their contracted 2 months' severance to follow that. Now that 2 months have just passed, does anyone know if they received this pay?
- rgbrenner 4y agoNo... he got the class action thrown out because of an arbitration clause... so each individual case must go through arbitration, and those are all still pending (when I checked a week or two ago).
- CameronNemo 4y agoThat could cost him a lot more in the long run... arbitration ain't cheap and these employees are probably quite motivated to pursue it.
- gsanderson 4y agoYep, something has gone very wrong. New images are also returning the same error. I assume the person that used to fix such things has been fired.
- niix 4y agohttps://status.twitterstat.us/ https://status.twitterstat.us/ says everything is operational
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- mikestew 4y agoI don't think "supposed to" includes breaking Lord Elon's tweets on the actual Twitter domain: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=35043746 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=35043746
- rideontime 4y agothey laid off the people whose job it was to update that site, it hasn't updated for any of the other recent outages either
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- faefox 4y agoTwitter in the age of Elon continues to lurch from one embarrassment to the next.
- powera 4y agoThis isn't "you can't run Twitter with half of its 2021 headcount". This is "Elon Musk is deliberately mandating bad software engineering practices". I will decline to speculate whether that is out of malice or incompetence.
- bhartzer 4y agoI was literally adding a 2FA authenticator app to my Twitter accounts that aren't Twitter Blue accounts when this happened. I thought it was something I did. Good to know that I can rely on H/N to tell me what's really going on... and it's not "just me".
- O__________O 4y agoWorth noting Twitter’s status page claims it is “operational” and no events are listed under history section for past 180-days, which is obviously wrong: - https://status.twitter.com/ https://status.twitter.com/ * Not to mention the SSL certificate appears to be expired too. ———- EDIT-01: Appears there’s a status page just for the API: - https://api.twitterstat.us/ https://api.twitterstat.us/ EDIT-02: Wow, Twitter is using Twitter to post status updates: - https://twitter.com/TwitterSupport/status/1632792942262747136 https://twitter.com/TwitterSupport/status/163279294226274713...
- juujian 4y ago> * Not to mention the SSL certificate appears to be expired too. Love that detail. Just the icing on the top that says "everybody who was vaguely aware of this particular infrastructure is gone."
- O__________O 4y agoAlso weird given that Twitter is using 3rd-party service which apparently doesn’t even automatically log and post known downtime issues; service being: https://status.io/ https://status.io/ (Assuming this is more of a the site’s not down unless the CTO says it is services.)
- tcmart14 4y agoOh man, no way. If that is the case, some people thought I was full of shit when I said, "watch it, in the mass layoffs they fired that one guy who knows all about the certs." There is always that one guy and unfortunately he always gets canned.
- banana_giraffe 4y agoIt's not expired. That site is using the wrong cert (ERR_CERT_COMMON_NAME_INVALID). How odd.
- Joker_vD 4y agoBrowsers still look at the commonName?.. Hasn't this field been deprecated since 2000?
- vld_chk 4y agoThe Twitter suicide is the most crazy thing I’ve seen in my career. Rich and bored billionaire bought a “socially valuable service” just to drop its revenue by half and destroy it completely
- mikebonnell 4y agoTwitter Support just posted: "Some parts of Twitter may not be working as expected right now. We made an internal change that had some unintended consequences. We’re working on this now and will share an update when it’s fixed." https://twitter.com/TwitterSupport/status/1632792942262747136?s=20 https://twitter.com/TwitterSupport/status/163279294226274713...
- photon12 4y agoAre they going to put "fired the people who used to enforce our change control procedures" in the post-mortem?
- faefox 4y agoPresumably those people weren't "hardcore" enough for Elon Twitter.
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- gbear605 4y agoI’d start by not immediately losing 40% of revenue and loads of users, personally.
- ssnistfajen 4y agoBy selling it to a chum who paid an overpriced tag of $44B through leverage.
- munk-a 4y agoHonestly I think this point is understated. Twitter (executives at least - but that's how capitalism works in America right now) basically won by offloading a dying platform onto a sucker with more money then sense. If they'd spread the joy around so that everyone who worked there got a golden parachute to glide away on before Musk walked in with a kitchen sink I think I'd be singing praises of them as folk heroes - as it is they're at least assholes that managed to pull one over on a larger asshole. Edit: Blargh - switching word order.
- shadowgovt 4y agoWhat's up with that 467 error code? That's not a standard HTTP status code; I wonder what it means?
- mlindner 4y agoIt's not just tweetdeck. Any clickable t.co URLs (i.e. all URLs embedded in tweets) are broken.
- andylynch 4y agoOn seeing these errors, for a minute I seriously wondered whether their hosting provider had started turning things off due to those unpaid bills.
- misiti3780 4y agoThis is all links. Not just tweetdeck.
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- aviramha 4y agoI get random random errors and can't really browse (logged in) Farewell?
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- jmull 4y agohttps://twitter.com https://twitter.com Is down too, at this moment.
- pseudo0 4y agoIt's up for me, maybe a geographically limited outage?
- Invictus0 4y agoWorking for me.
- marcosdumay 4y agoWow, I have never seen the Twitter front-page before. What a colossal piece of shit. Everything there is information-free and radicalized. The only maybe useful thing is the result of some game, that I assume it's soccer. (But British soccer, why would I care about British soccer? The rest of the page is localized into Brazil.)
- idlewords 4y agoTwitter went down constantly in its early years and did fine; as long as errors get fixed, I don't see why that dynamic would spell doom for Twitter now. There are a lot of people for whom the idea that Twitter can get along without most of its former headcount is a bitter pill to swallow, but that doesn't make it untrue. One reason the site was stable pre-Musk is that no one made any changes to it. For better or worse, it's now owned by someone who actually uses the product and has ideas for how to develop it.
- globalreset 4y agoYeap. Most people commenting here are just bitter and are looking for any excuse to confirm their biases. From a business perspective does it matter that Twitter is down for a moment? It's not a plane or medical machine. It's not blocking anyone from doing anything useful. Everyone are just going to check & post when it is up again. It also doesn't mean that Twitter employees have a bad work experience like most here assume. Maybe they've got a permission to iterate fast, even if it risks bringing things down, and everyone are having a jolly good time, skipping on the boring chores ensuring everything will go smoothly usually takes.
- r721 4y agoIt's kind of funny that another thread (https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=35043330 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=35043330) is in top 5 Google results for "Your current API plan does not include access to this endpoint" search term, and is flooded with newly created accounts asking for support.
- jsheard 4y agoEven before the current downtime a string was data-mined from the TweetDeck beta which referred to itself as "a feature of Twitter Blue" so the days of being able to use TD for free are probably numbered anyway.
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- favaq 4y agoNot that I particularly like Elon but people are now making a big deal out of every twitter outage as if twitter didn't spend down half of the time before Elon bought it.
- murillians 4y agoI dont remember Twitter being down so often before the takeover. I actually distinctly using Twitter to check if OTHER websites or services were down
- enumjorge 4y agoTwitter had issues early on, but before Musk bought them they definitely did not have outages half the time.
- EarlKing 4y agoNo, definitely not half the time... a third tops. I've become accustomed to the fact that it's beyond clear that pre-Musk engineers pushed changes to the servers live without testing them first, and didn't even bother doing an incremental roll-out either. Either they had no engineering culture, or that culture was gutted long before he arrived, because Twitter had problems with frightening regularity.
- rvz 4y agoEvery speed bump and hiccup of Twitter's outages since the acquisition is now magnified by the new standard expectation of 1000% uptime by the schadenfreude brigade. Before it is all '#hugops' and 'best wishes to the engineers at Twitter' when it had downtime before the acquisition. But as you can see, they all love to hate it because a person called Elon R. Musk owns the blue bird site. Just like when everyone here thought that Facebook, Instagram, WhatsApp all collapsed and went down for hours it was declared as the 'end of times' the 'death of Meta', etc, with it's network effect still unaffected by that. The same thing is happening for Twitter as even when it goes down, it's network effect of 220M+ users is still sitting there waiting for it to get back up.
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- paxys 4y agoThere were many different hypotheses on the outcome of Elon firing 80%+ of Twitter employees: 1. The site would crash and burn the next day. 2. Nothing would change. All those engineers were anyways just sitting around. 3. There would be no immediate impact (servers can run by themselves after all), but the site would slowly degrade over time as institutional knowledge around maintenance, upkeep and all the various system quirks was gone. We are now seeing #3 play out in front of us.
- antupis 4y agoI think 3 is happening but the thing is that can this HC-twitter build knowledge and code back so that site functions stay about same before users leave is the real battle.
- sidfthec 4y ago#1 is what non-tech people said. #2 is what hardcore Elon fans said. #3 was always the most likely prediction and is what any actual tech engineer should have said.
- thepasswordis 4y agoSurely this will be the end of twitter forever! for reference: I see absolutely none of the things anybody is saying they are seeing as errors. Twitter works exactly as it ever has for me.
- top_sigrid 4y agoThe former you said is in no way implied within this post or its link. The latter is a kind of anecdotal evidence that does have no value in discussions like this. The linked post is from the official Twitter account stating that things are broken and it is for many people. If you don't see it this could be due to many conditions on why it might seem working on your device/client/account. This does not lead to any logical conclusion that these information might be wrong.
- Pete-Codes 4y agoNo bio links work for me
- snwfog 4y agoIf you like Tweetdeck and Reddit, checkout rdddeck [0]. [0] https://rdddeck.com/ https://rdddeck.com/
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- mshenfield 4y agoIt's back
- andreyk 4y agohttps://downdetector.com/status/twitter/ https://downdetector.com/status/twitter/ Looks like it's already being/has been fixed. Still, pretty impressive level of brokenness for a short time.
- numpad0 4y agoPSA: Mastodon, Misskey, Nostr, Bluesky exists now. Just top 3 Mastodon instances(mastodon.social, pawoo.net, mstdn.jp) collectively has > 2mil users, same level as Twitter in 2008. Misskey, an ActivityPub/Mastodon compatible server software, now has >10K users. Nostr isn't much, Bluesky is still invite only and had just went past 2k registered, but those are all available options for direct substitutes to Twitter in case anyone still in need of a legacy twitterform social media.
- PointyFluff 4y ago[dead]
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- Tepix 4y agoYou keep repeating that in multiple threads. I've been on Mastodon for 5 years now and i've yet to see any. I'm not saying there isn't anything, but "flooded" it isn't.
- parrellel 4y agoI've seen two or three bursts of the porn popping through, mostly communities moving on to Mastodon from twitter that get pretty immediately defederated / blocked.
- rvz 4y agoThey're repeating it because it is the truth you don't want to hear or fix and that's the problem. It has been 7 years since Mastodon has been around and it is no better than where it was before since little to no-one has bothered to stick around or even know where to sign up. Twitter had beyond 10 million+ daily active users in 7 years, yet with Mastodon it only has spikes of users that don't stick around for years. Like Facebook, it looks like the Twitter network effect has never been more strong; even when it goes down.
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- dom96 4y agoShameless plug: I created a browser extension to help transition to Mastodon[0]. If you don't yet feel like you can leave twitter.com, but want to explore alternatives it's a great way to get started. Essentially it injects Mastodon posts into your Twitter timeline, so you can retain your existing Twitter following while getting exposed to Mastodon. [0] - https://chirper.picheta.me https://chirper.picheta.me
- EarlKing 4y ago[flagged]
- _zzaw 4y agoMaybe just don't follow people who post that stuff/turn off boosts/block furry instances/etc? This isn't like Twitter, where it fills your feed with shit it thinks is relevant. On Mastodon, you have pretty much total control over what shows up in your feed.
- pkulak 4y agoThat will happen the same time email "does something about that". It's an open standard. If you join a server that doesn't federate with servers you don't like, or you just don't follow accounts that post things you don't like, you won't see things you don't like. My question for you is... what the heck server are you on, and what accounts are you following??? I've never seen a single thing you've mentioned on Mastadon.
- ColinWright 4y agoMy instance and my timelines have zero loli and zero furry porn. Clearly your experience of Mastodon differs significantly from mine.
- egypturnash 4y agolooks at this post looks at her chill, friendly instance full of furries Working as intended, enjoy your Twitter. Nothing to see here over on Mastodon.
- freediver 4y agoTwitter should not use a redirection service for links in the first place. Let a link be link. Ideally it should also not track click-throughs.
- IncRnd 4y agoThe headline may overstate whatever happened. I'd never used tweetdeck prior to now. Yet, it just now loaded fine for me. Once it loaded, I clicked a button that said something like, "setup some fields", and then tweets were displayed. What's not working? I'm just a free user of twitter.
- ctvo 4y ago> The headline may overstate whatever happened. Or... it was broken for normal users and is now fixed. The newspaper said there was a fire at this building? Yet, it looks fine to me now?
- aaroninsf 4y ago[flagged]
- ghusto 4y agoTime to burn my imaginary internet credits again. I won't argue that firing all the engineers so swiftly wasn't a mistake (I mean I _could_, but don't want to dig myself any deeper than necessary in a single post). What I will say though, is that this gives me hints as to the quality of engineering that went on at Twitter. I feel like some stellar Rube Goldberging went into solving problems that could have used simpler, if not _less CV boosting_, solutions. I've been at places like this. The engineers have fun building convoluted "solutions" for the sake of saying they worked on cool-tech-x. And surprise, it needs endless maintenance.
- cliveb 4y agoTweetdeck provides access to cherry pick from a goldmine of fresh search data by 'likes' and retweets. The latest tweetdeck is tough slogging to use.
- alismayilov 4y agoThey definitely need chaos engineering team. Maybe, they had one, but they were fired?
- ja27 4y ago"This one API user has more calls than all the others combined." "Disable them and see what happens."
- iguana_lawyer 4y ago2 full time bodyguards to protect Elon from employees when he goes go to bathroom 0 engineers to prevent this from happening
- ericzawo 4y agoThe "weird nerds defending Elon Musk" meme gets more true as time goes on. https://twitter.com/CaseyExplosion/status/1018558848670593024?lang=en https://twitter.com/CaseyExplosion/status/101855884867059302...
- timcavel 4y ago[dead]
- jononor 4y agoDoes anyone know of time-series data with Twitter incidents/up/downtime? Would be interesting to do an analysis of the service level and change point analysis wrt the firing.
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- jgerrish 4y agoIt feels like we're being deliberately herded into Mastodon. Obviously, that's paranoid thinking. But the results are the same in many cases. A market for lemons developing. A reinforcement of the strategy for others. And more stressful things in our lives. If people are resentful, I understand. I hope they can find peaceful communities and safety wherever they go. I'm sure there will be political or technical reforms to accomplish that. I hope people remember in the end that there were beautiful and good people in different spaces on the Internet, including Twitter. I hope I can choose my own story.